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Very stupidly renting with ex

115 replies

FishGingers · 06/06/2019 23:13

after our house was sold as an interim solution. It’s a complete nightmare and I need him to move out. We have two children. He refuses to move out and is asking us to move out instead.

I am the lead tenant and higher earner. He is not really contributing to the children (food, utilities etc) but he pays 50% of the rent.

How do I get him out of the property (peacefully)?

The children like it here and it’s convenient for my daughter’s school.

OP posts:
funnylittlefloozie · 18/06/2019 10:59

On the issue of him telling your employer, this exact situation happened to my colleague. Her exH was/is batshit and sent her loads of emails and texts threatening to tell our manager that she had a boyfriend, that she was a liar and a cheat, etc. It really upset her, even though we were all certain that he would never do it (although i sort of hoped he would, because i often answer the phone and i would LOVE to tell him what i think of him).

She dealt with it by telling our manager what was happening. It meant that even if he did phone, we already knew what rubbish he was going to come out with. It was embarrassing for her initially, but she was much more relaxed after she had spiked his guns, essentially.

Margorystewartbaxter · 18/06/2019 11:27

Have you spoken to the letting agent

Scorpvenus1 · 18/06/2019 11:30

doesn't matter if he cant afford it on his own, he deserves to loose it all to hopefully learn by the sounds of it.

Leave and leave him, tell landlord your out and your not paying any more rent. Changed banks.

WeKnowFrogsGoShaLaLaLaLa · 18/06/2019 12:08

OP, I have literally just been through this, down to the employer threats, the lot. It had been my house initially and we had added him to the tenancy to get his daughter into school nearby. I went through weeks of living like you are, and it nearly broke me.
I left, in the end and took the financial hit. It was better than the torture of living like that. I'm happier than I have been I such a long time. Better times are coming OP. Stay strong.

FishGingers · 21/06/2019 23:25

The irony is that I almost signed as a single tenant and forced him into the contact to ensure that he would pay a contribution. Hence the title of this thread.

When the lease is up, I’ll sign as a single tenant. In the meantime I avoid him as much as possible. He comes back at 9:00 pm or so and we go upstairs.

OP posts:
KnobJockey · 22/06/2019 13:16

To be honest, from my understanding of working in lettings, you are stuck or going to be in financial troubles anyway. Bad decision to sign a new lease with him, but the decision is made now.

You will be under a new AST, and as such your landlord can't do anything unless all of you agree to break it. Your landlord can't kick you or him out until that minimum term is up. If you do feel that you want to stay there, then speak to your landlord as soon as, but at least 3.5 months before your contract is up. They will possibly be able to issue you both a section 21 to leave when the AST is up, then a new tenancy can be issued in your sole name. But that is only with mutual agreement with the landlord, and relies on your ex leaving the property when the time comes.

Is there anything you can do to keep things seperate at home? Can you move the DC's in to one room, to make the other bedroom into a lounge that you can put a little bolt on to keep him out?

FishGingers · 22/06/2019 16:06

We are ok and we have three bedrooms and two spare rooms upstairs Smile.

He’s downstairs 👍 and out most of the time / all the time now. I guess he doesn’t want to get into trouble and get kicked out.

OP posts:
FishGingers · 22/06/2019 16:07

Knob how am I getting into financial trouble? Are you my ex?

OP posts:
KnobJockey · 22/06/2019 18:22

No, I mean if you try and leave the house/leave him to pay/ rely on his half of the money. It's not the case that you are both liable for 50% each, is the case that you are jointly responsible. So they don't care who pays it, they will come after both of you, but the one who is most likely to pay it (which sounds like you if his business is going tits up, as his financial record will be shot) is the one who they will send bailiffs after, etc.

Jon65 · 22/06/2019 18:35

@KnobJockey your post is incorrect. Op can give effective notice only after the end of the initial fixed term. The notice will be effective for both parties. Once the notice period is up, the tenancy is ended. Once notice is given it cannot be rescinded by either party. Op should then sign a new tenancy agreement in her single name with the landlord. Op's ex has no right to be in the property from that date as he is no longer a tenant and she should change the locks when he is not in the property on the date the new tenancy takes effect.This is the only way the matter can be resolved. A section 21 notice does not end the tenancy. Other than by the tenant giving notice, or by mutual agreement of all parties, only the court can end the tenancy,

KnobJockey · 22/06/2019 19:42

Then I stand corrected 😊 however I believe she can give her 1 month's notice in month 5, to leave as soon as the AST finishes, rather than waiting until the 6 months is up. And the landlord does need speaking to beforehand, if the OP wishes to stay, as an agreement needs reaching.

My main aim from that was to try and impress that the OP should not be relying on her ex to be responsible for 50%, or to leave easily, as she could end up getting screwed financially- that's the last thing that you need as a single parent.

Lifeisabeach09 · 22/06/2019 20:00

Any updates, OP?

A lot of agents will let you out of the lease early as long as they can find someone else to take over the lease. If they can't, you (and your ex) will have to pay the rent until end of contract period.
Speak to your Letting Agents about terminating the lease early (as joint tenants), and resigning a new lease as a single tenant. I believe other PPs have said this.

Jon65 · 23/06/2019 11:16

Legally no, you cannot give notice during the term, only after the fixed term has ended. However in reality most landlords aren't aware of this or are happy to mutually agree and will accept notice during the term to be effective on the last day of the fixed term. It is also essential to check what the tenancy agreement says as some require more than one month notice.

SapatSea · 23/06/2019 13:41

Sometime sthere is a break clause in a lettings contract at 3 months which you might be able to use.

Spanglyprincess1 · 23/06/2019 13:51

Op your employer might have a dv policy, we do. Speak to your manager and explain.
Speak to the landlord, speak to the police or a chair like shelter eg regarding your situation. His behaviour is ecslating. I think although it will be hard you need to leave if he won't go. Your children and your own mh is worth the costs.
I wish you the best of luck x

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