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DH asked when I’m going to lose THE WEIGHT

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PeaPumpkinPie · 05/06/2019 16:01

We’ve been together 23 years and married 17 years with 3 lovely DC. From the outside, we seem to live a charmed life, but the reality is that we live like siblings (he loves to cuddle and peck on the lips/cheek). We have some fun, banter and bicker quite often (but nothing serious) and life revolves around our home, the DC and our broader families.

For the first 7 years or so, we had a fun, exciting and healthy sex life. At that point, DH got a much bigger, more stressful job and his sex drive declined significantly. For a decade or so after, I made a lot of advances, bought nice lingerie, stayed slim and groomed and got rejected nearly every time. He was always too tired and over that time we usually had sex once a week, always at his initiation and on a weekend morning (really it was just a quick fumble before busy day started). All DC were conceived first time, which was incredibly lucky!

For the past 5 years, I’ve made zero effort on that front. We’ve had sex 3 times. During that time, he tried to initiate twice more and I turned him down. He seemed to take this really personally and got offended and hasn’t asked since.

Life has been busy and bustling. We’ve shared a bed throughout all of this and cuddle every day (he initiates most of the affection). Weirdly I know he’s attractive, but I don’t find him so attractive anymore. It’s like the chemistry we had originally has fizzled out!

I assume he’s asexual or most likely quite into porn instead (I thought it may be a bit of ED on the last few times actually).

So the point of my post is that he recently asked me when I’m going to lose THE WEIGHT. I’ve put that in capitol letters, as it really was astonishing when he said it. To be clear, I’ve gained probably 3.5 stone in the past 2 years (from a size 10 to 16). I know objectively that I’m no longer beautiful, but I am still attractive (sorry if that sounds big headed). In any case, I don’t know why it makes a difference to DH. I still wear make up and nice hair etc. I’m definitely more tired from a busy career and home life, so I’m not as polished perhaps and my clothes aren’t as lovely, but really my physical appearance is fatter, but not materially changed overall.

We have no sex life and he just blamed this status on THE WEIGHT. I find it astonishing, as I was a size 10 and much more beautiful for a very long time and he showed zero physical attraction towards me back then.

It’s not ok, is it for him to make an issue about my weight?

I was rejected sexually for so long even when slim. He told me last week that he wants us to have a “physical relationship”. I was so shocked at the time that I didn’t answer. The reality is that we’re like brother and sister and have been for a long time. I get changed in the bathroom for privacy. I really cannot fathom having an intimate relationship with him again. This sounds odd, but it seems inappropriate and a bit icky.

I don’t want to split up our family. I resigned myself to the current situation a long time ago and we’ve been great co-parents so far. Luckily there’s no financial pressures if we do split up, but it would make a big difference to our DC and I love DH, he’s my best friend.

P.s. I know there’s a Sex board on here, but that seems to be full of people wanting tips etc, rather than broader issues in a relationship

OP posts:
Butterfly98 · 05/06/2019 21:00

Ok @Ninkaninus no need to get defensive! It's actually you who needs educating. The maximum healthy waist measurement for a woman should be no wider than 32 inches, and a size 16 is wider than that. Please do yourself a favour and stop burying your head in the sand.

Ninkaninus · 05/06/2019 21:00

I’ve got no investment in coming up with some kind of educated guess as to how many size 10 women are healthier than how many size 16 women, or vice versa. I just can’t stand it when ignorant people mouth off about something they clearly have little to no understanding of.

MrsBobDylan · 05/06/2019 21:01

Op, the thing that really, really jumps out at me is the lack of communication between you both. It sounds like you both have felt rejected in the past? From dh point of view, he felt up for it once a week and probably felt really inadequate knowing that you wanted it much more and weren't satisfied by him.

You have felt terribly hurt and embarrassed and sound like you've switched off that side of you to protect yourself from further rejection. This could be why you find the thought of sex with dh makes you feel queasy.

You need couples counselling - you've got to talk!! I honestly think that he has tried to say he wants to be physical with you but has fucked it up totally by seizing on the once thing which is a bit different to 'before' and blaming that. He has been an utterly offensive dimwit but I do think your relationship sounds worth saving if you can.

Ninkaninus · 05/06/2019 21:02

I’m a size 12 and have no need to be defensive. I’d wager I understand a lot more about good health than you do, as you’ve so clearly demonstrated.

Ninkaninus · 05/06/2019 21:03

Anyway OP I’m not going to derail your thread further.

Wishing you all the best in navigating this situation.

user1481840227 · 05/06/2019 21:10

Oh come on Ninkanius, you said you can't stand ignorant people mouthing off about something they clearly have no understanding of, yet all butterfly did was respond to the claim that

"Size 16 is nowhere near obese - it's more likely to be a healthy weight than size 10".

That simply is not true. and you didn't feel the need to call out the poster who made that claim!

user1481840227 · 05/06/2019 21:17

I don't know about that MrsBobDoyle, if he really did want a physical relationship then that is a very silly thing to say considering that losing weight means a lot of time, effort and motivation is required to get back into it. Realistically then he's not going to be resuming the physical relationship for quite some time!! unless he was going to be honest about the fact that it wasn't weight that caused it!

I can't see that being it.

HelenaDove · 05/06/2019 21:21

Exactly It takes time to lose weight..........its almost as if he is trying to buy himself some time for some reason.

user1481840227 · 05/06/2019 21:23

Maybe he is trying to buy some time, he could worried that the OP might be getting fed up of the relationship and becoming distant....so thinks himself that he can buy some time by saying weight is the problem...while also making her feel unattractive so she doesn't start to think of life outside a relationship with him.

PeaPumpkinPie · 05/06/2019 21:52

@user1481840227 - oh goodness, I think you’ve hit the nail on the head. I’ve recently been promoted and will be heading to my overseas offices for a few weeks next month to meet new boss, new team! I really wonder if that’s what it is. Slightly agog that I didn’t think of that. Bring me down to make me feel insecure and dangle the carrot of there being some reigniting of a long lost spark. I don’t know. Total head fuck, if so

OP posts:
Butterfly98 · 05/06/2019 21:56

@user1481840227 thank you, at least you can see that people are entitled to give their opinions on a forum and you made a very good point about having a healthy BMI too. Neither of us criticised anyone! @Ninkaninus needs to calm down and demonstrate her 'education' by not calling people ignorant and using lovely phrases liked 'mouth off' (sounds very educated indeed, or more like an episode of EastEnders!!). Unfortunately, this seems to be a touchy subject for @Ninkaninus and has obviously made her come across quite bitter in the process.

In regards to the OP you really shouldn't put up with your dh insulting you like that. You have made lots of effort for him over the years and what has he done for you in return?

Bluntness100 · 05/06/2019 22:10

I can't believe some people are detailing this into a ludicrous argument on weight.

Op that might be it, he is feeling threatened?

Caucho · 05/06/2019 23:21

3.5 stone is more than a quarter and less of a third of my body weight so imagine I’d look a lot different if I put that amount on. However it seems he was disinterested when you were lighter. Could be many reasons. Good excuse to bail out and shift the blame, genuinely got the mojo back after problems but now doesn’t fancy you, maybe a power play and trying to be controlling - who knows.

All I’d say there’s no such thing about ‘just’ 3.5 stone. Regardless of the motivations about the person it’s not realistic to think it doesn’t make any difference. 17 to 20 stone isn’t a big leap but 3.5 is a big difference for skinny folks

myadviceisdontskippaps · 05/06/2019 23:31

The maximum healthy waist measurement for a woman should be no wider than 32 inches

What kind of rubbish am I reading here??? I’ve never had a waist that small. Never had an out of normal range BMI. Wear size 10-12 ish UK size and 8ish US size.

Apparently we all should come in only one shape. Hmm Confused

Scott72 · 05/06/2019 23:40

The husband here is being told off by many posters for not having sex with his wife more than once a week when apparently he didn't have the drive or desire for more. If the genders were reversed we'd probably have a different reaction.

But he did behave very poorly by not recognizing the obvious mismatch in libido and trying to address it. He showed a very low level of sympathy and empathy in apparently not noticing the unhappiness this was causing her.

This a good possibility that he simply doesn't remember that he rejected her often during the majority of their marriage, whereas she remembers it keenly. This often happens when there is a mismatched libido.

DeeCeeCherry · 05/06/2019 23:47

Massively rude to comment about your weight.

You do not want sex with your husband and are happy with the brother sister style relationship - that's a separate issue & it's unlikely you will remain together in the long-term

justilou1 · 06/06/2019 03:56

How hurtful! Especially after all this time, looking and feeing fab, only for it to make no difference to him at all.
You should probably tel him that you’re going to put in an effort to lose weight so that you look and feel your best when you start your wonderful new job, because you never know where that will lead you!

Amibeingdaft81 · 06/06/2019 06:02

How hurtful! Especially after all this time, looking and feeing fab, only for it to make no difference to him at all.

For the past 5 years the OP has made zero effort

Bluntness100 · 06/06/2019 06:34

However it seems he was disinterested when you were lighter

Because shagging her once a week is your definition of uninterested? Confused

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 06/06/2019 06:37

Ah OP

I would consider losing THE WEIGHT anyway . As for general health , energy , back pain and knee pain reasons it’s necessary . It will also give you some control back

Regarding your DH - well lord knows really . You need a proper talk and try and ascertain what’s behind all of this .

I wish you luck

Fairylea · 06/06/2019 07:10

I think he’s using your weight as an excuse because he knows it’s not an issue for you and therefore you have no real incentive to lose it so he assumes you probably won’t. So he’s giving you - in his eyes- an impossible task. So when you can’t or don’t want to lose the weight he feels justified in leaving etc because he’s given you a chance to change - so it’s not his fault the marriage has ended (in his eyes). It’s basically gaslighting.

I’ve had similar happen to me.

Ironically when now ex dh left (for a girlfriend he’d had before me he’d found on Facebook!) I did lose the weight! I started doing a lot of walking and I was so stressed it just dropped off. And then I met new dh and it’s piled on again (new dh - we’ve been together 10 years now) couldn’t care less.

Scott72 · 06/06/2019 07:16

"Because shagging her once a week is your definition of uninterested?"
To be fair it wasn't just the quantity, the quality was apparently poor. But that is also a symptom of low libido.

ChihuahuaMummy1 · 06/06/2019 07:18

I bet you could lose 11 stone plus if you got rid of him. Cheeky sod

kalinkafoxtrot45 · 06/06/2019 07:22

Can’t believe posters here are jumping on your weight. FFS. It’s not the issue. It never was, he wasn’t interested in you at a lower weight so why is he using it now? I agree, it’s an excuse, he’s trying to bring you down, and I wonder what his motivation is. Doesn’t put him in a good light in any case.

sincethereis · 06/06/2019 07:39

@Ninkaninus

Are you overweight/ size 16+? Ur rather defensive!
The comments about how the majority of size sixteens are overweight and likely aren’t healthier than someone smaller aren’t personal attacks. They are just facts.