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DH asked when I’m going to lose THE WEIGHT

159 replies

PeaPumpkinPie · 05/06/2019 16:01

We’ve been together 23 years and married 17 years with 3 lovely DC. From the outside, we seem to live a charmed life, but the reality is that we live like siblings (he loves to cuddle and peck on the lips/cheek). We have some fun, banter and bicker quite often (but nothing serious) and life revolves around our home, the DC and our broader families.

For the first 7 years or so, we had a fun, exciting and healthy sex life. At that point, DH got a much bigger, more stressful job and his sex drive declined significantly. For a decade or so after, I made a lot of advances, bought nice lingerie, stayed slim and groomed and got rejected nearly every time. He was always too tired and over that time we usually had sex once a week, always at his initiation and on a weekend morning (really it was just a quick fumble before busy day started). All DC were conceived first time, which was incredibly lucky!

For the past 5 years, I’ve made zero effort on that front. We’ve had sex 3 times. During that time, he tried to initiate twice more and I turned him down. He seemed to take this really personally and got offended and hasn’t asked since.

Life has been busy and bustling. We’ve shared a bed throughout all of this and cuddle every day (he initiates most of the affection). Weirdly I know he’s attractive, but I don’t find him so attractive anymore. It’s like the chemistry we had originally has fizzled out!

I assume he’s asexual or most likely quite into porn instead (I thought it may be a bit of ED on the last few times actually).

So the point of my post is that he recently asked me when I’m going to lose THE WEIGHT. I’ve put that in capitol letters, as it really was astonishing when he said it. To be clear, I’ve gained probably 3.5 stone in the past 2 years (from a size 10 to 16). I know objectively that I’m no longer beautiful, but I am still attractive (sorry if that sounds big headed). In any case, I don’t know why it makes a difference to DH. I still wear make up and nice hair etc. I’m definitely more tired from a busy career and home life, so I’m not as polished perhaps and my clothes aren’t as lovely, but really my physical appearance is fatter, but not materially changed overall.

We have no sex life and he just blamed this status on THE WEIGHT. I find it astonishing, as I was a size 10 and much more beautiful for a very long time and he showed zero physical attraction towards me back then.

It’s not ok, is it for him to make an issue about my weight?

I was rejected sexually for so long even when slim. He told me last week that he wants us to have a “physical relationship”. I was so shocked at the time that I didn’t answer. The reality is that we’re like brother and sister and have been for a long time. I get changed in the bathroom for privacy. I really cannot fathom having an intimate relationship with him again. This sounds odd, but it seems inappropriate and a bit icky.

I don’t want to split up our family. I resigned myself to the current situation a long time ago and we’ve been great co-parents so far. Luckily there’s no financial pressures if we do split up, but it would make a big difference to our DC and I love DH, he’s my best friend.

P.s. I know there’s a Sex board on here, but that seems to be full of people wanting tips etc, rather than broader issues in a relationship

OP posts:
Notabedofroses · 05/06/2019 17:20

You were slim he wasn't interested, so how on earth can it be anything to do with your weight?? He is 100% trying to blame you for this, when really it starts and finishes with him.

Either way op, weight aside, this is a bit of a warning sign that what was working between you, and chugging along nicely as friends appears to be stalling.

It sounds to me like you no longer find HIM attractive, and this arrangement has suited you to now may no longer work if he is demanding a sexual relationship that you do not want or need.

Far from being your best friend, I think he was very very unkind to say that to you. I would be absolutely furious to be hurt like this by my dh.

He could have got the message across without hurting you, and that is the most worrisome aspect. Why now?

SimonJT · 05/06/2019 17:21

I personally wouldn’t accept that weight gain in a partner, and wouldn’t put on a significant amount of weight and expect them to find me attractive. However, it seems this is a secondary issue in that you aren’t particularly interested in sex anymore, and he seems to want to go back to having an active sex life. Those two needs do not work together.

Ravingstarfish · 05/06/2019 17:21

What a dickhead.

ScreamingLadySutch · 05/06/2019 17:23

This:

"You have to talk this out and address all the issues. Ask him when the sex started going why that was."

And this:"I think you need to remind him directly that you didn’t have an active sex life even when you were ‘slim’ "

I think you need to tell him how hurt you were, and that you just gave up.

He needs to explain why he always used to push you away, before you trust him enough to let him close again.

I think this needs counselling OP.

MonstranceClock · 05/06/2019 17:24

I don't know if I'm reading it wrong (english isn't my first language) but OP said she was the one who didn't make any effort and she rejected his advances? Why is the husband getting all the blame?

You should just split up.

HelenaDove · 05/06/2019 17:25

Wow i better divorce my DH toot suite as his heart meds + other meds have caused weight gain.

Or should i demand he stops taking them.

Simon did you not read the OP He wasnt interested when she was a size 10 and then it was only a quick fumble once a week. Shes not a wank sock that has to keep herself available just in cases.

Loveatthefiveanddime · 05/06/2019 17:25

Hope you are ok OP. ED, lack of enthusiasm and rejection are just soul destroying.

Your post chimes with me. However, one extra thing occurs to me. You say being intimate with him now seems icky. I wonder, do you still have sexual urges at all or has that entire side of you gone dormant? If so, it may be the case that hormones also have a part to play in your lack of chemistry. Is there a chance you may be peri-menopausal?

HelenaDove · 05/06/2019 17:28

because they have gone into a sort of brother/sister/friends relationship and it can be hard to come back from that. And a woman needs to feel confident to be able to have decent sex. But im guessing he doesnt even want it to be fullfilling..........for her.

Bluntness100 · 05/06/2019 17:29

I think he's telling you he's not happy with the relarionship as it is, clearly you can't expect him to become celibate because you no longer fancy him, so he may decide to go elsewhere and end it. You on the other hand can't be expected to have sex if you don't want to.

Your status quo has changed, so you need to make some decisions. Firstly you need to be honest and talk to one another. Explain to him you do not wish to lose weight your happy with how you look and you don't wish to have a physical relationship with him again.

It's then up to him to respond on how he feels about that.

Notabedofroses · 05/06/2019 17:29

I personally wouldn’t accept that weight gain in a partner

How can you seriously be proud of saying that simon have you any idea how shallow you sound??

So what happens if you become bald, have erectile disfunction, dementia, a car crash that finds you living out our life in tubes. Would you also be happy for your dp to check out and shut down your relationship because your appearance no longer suited her? How can you hang your entire relationship on purely physical appearance?

I find people like you pretty unbelievable, and yet you will still be shocked when someone equally as shallow dumps you because you have developed crows feet, a saggy butt or balls that have shrivelled up.

Amibeingdaft81 · 05/06/2019 17:29

I reckon that’s he has got one foot out the door (not necessarily affair).

And your response to his request is going to swing it either way.

PennyStocks · 05/06/2019 17:34

I can't imagine many men are asexual.

Actually, I think no or low sex drive is much more common in men than people like to accept, although MN in particular prefers 'playing away', 'porn addiction' or the evergreen 'closet gay' as explanations.

If you have any plan to stay together OP, I think you have to challenge him about this directly - if your sex life was all initiated by you for years while you were slim, then it's not your weight that's the issue and you won't be able to move past this while he's still claiming it is.

But I also think it's unrealistic to imagine a marriage can be sustained on this basis indefinitely. You mention repeatedly that you're like siblings or friends, and that intimacy with him would feel wrong or distasteful now. I don't think (your perception of) the need of the children for you to stay together is enough to continue with a relationship that's gone so far off track. It's as though you've made your peace with the way things have been and you just need him to go quietly back to that status quo, when the reality is that things have not been OK for either of you for quite a long time. I think you really must communicate about the root causes, and also that you probably both need and deserve something healthier than this - and that goes for the kids too.

QueenBeex · 05/06/2019 17:34

Well he sounds very charming, id be telling him I'll lose my weight when I find it a problem myself, not when it suits him for me to suddenly become slim.

Bluntness100 · 05/06/2019 17:35

I reckon that’s he has got one foot out the door

I also think this I'm afraid. I think he's firing the warning shot that he's out. I'm sorry.

SimonJT · 05/06/2019 17:37

@Notabedofroses

If I gained a significant amount of weight I wouldn’t expect him to stay with me, no matter how much you love someone you can’t fake attraction or desire. Both people should be happy in a relationship, I would be horrified if someone stayed with me out of ‘duty’ if I became disabled etc.

C8H10N4O2 · 05/06/2019 17:39

"The weight" is an excuse. All through the years when you wanted sex and he didn't you were at an approved weight.

Now you have gained weight it becomes his excuse for still not having sex but blaming you for it.

He does sound like he has one foot out the door whilst trying to blame you for it. TBH, it doesn't sound like either of you really want this relationship to continue and having some independent counselling may well help you work out what you want to do next.

M3lon · 05/06/2019 17:40

simon Its better all round if you love people for something other than their physical appearance...I mean we are all getting old and baggy one day and yet many people manage to continue to find their partner attractive regardless of life's changes.

I think it helps if you aren't shallow as fuck.

foreverhanging · 05/06/2019 17:41

I would be broken if my dh said this to me.

Notabedofroses · 05/06/2019 17:41

simon I pity your poor dp, seriously I do, should they age, put on weight, be hit by a bus you will be shipping in a replacement in a heartbeat. You sound like a real keeper!

Darkcloudsandsunnydays · 05/06/2019 17:43

Weight is a problem. Obesity is a bigger problem. It is unhealthy and leads to premature death. Just follow his routine. It is sensible what he says.

The sex life issues and his comments are unacceptable and I am sure you put those in context back at him. They demand an apology. You should never say unpleasant personal things like that to another person.

I hope you resolve to reverse the minuscule bit of weight loss whilst retaining your attractiveness.

There are loads of us down the gym. Join in.

Notabedofroses · 05/06/2019 17:45

simon I don't know about you but when I see pensioners queuing up they all look the same to me, grey, slightly saggy and battling aliments.

It might just make the old age experience more bearable if you have a partner in life that you can sing with, laugh with and have shared many decades of life together good and bad. For SOME people this is more important than a pert rear end. Physical beauty is only skin deep, and that runs out at around 60 even for those importing more pigs butt than the local butcher on a Saturday.

HelenaDove · 05/06/2019 17:49

Simon you will be humming a different tune in later years when you cant get up off the commode.

Hopefully though you will be happy to stay there in your own shit while your partner is off at an OAP keep fit class to maintain her weight.

QueSera · 05/06/2019 17:49

I'm so sorry you're in this situation OP.
It sounds as though you cannot imagine wanting to have sex with your DP ever again. This happens - the spark vanishes, and sometimes you can never get it back.
If true and unchangeable, though, it is unlikely that your marriage will continue.

I have no idea why your DP rebuffed your advances for so long and yet NOW says he wants sex. That is something for him to explain.
If you wanted to try to get the romantic/sexual spark back, there is lots of advice on trying to get it back - I'm sure you've seen, eg date nights, etc.
But all paths - both saving and ending your marriage - starts with communication.
Would a course of couples counselling be something you would consider? I found it very helpful in my relationship. Even if it doesn't save your marriage, it can help with a more peaceful parting.
I wish you all the best.

magoria · 05/06/2019 17:51

I think you should be as bluntly honest with him as he 'has been' with you.

All the years being slim and making an effort with lingerie etc but being rejected hurt and upset you and have destroyed your sexual interest in him. For him to then turn that around and blame it on your now weight is just that, him not accepting responsibility and blaming you.

Maybe suggest an open relationship? Let him get it else where while you lose the weight and see if you have any interest in another man.

EAIOU · 05/06/2019 17:51

Has the posters before making comments on the weight gain noted that he did not want sex with the OP when she said she was slimmer and felt more attractive.

How can anyone not see that it is damaging to your well-being to be with someone who does not appear to want to have sex with you? OP put in significant effort to maintain a chemistry and attract her DH but to no avail.

OP I'm sorry you've been offended by his insensitive comments. I agree with the other posters to remind him of the times when you felt rejected and been rebuffed for your advances.

I have been there and it is horrible. I actively called out on the situation and there was never an appropriate excuse/reason but I know how it all felt at the time.

Also noone should be pressured to stay the same weight they should be years ago. How in the name of God would couple's have lasted 40/50 odd years together if we weren't allowed to physically change.

You can always lose weight but it's hard to gain back self esteem/worth.

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