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DH asked when I’m going to lose THE WEIGHT

159 replies

PeaPumpkinPie · 05/06/2019 16:01

We’ve been together 23 years and married 17 years with 3 lovely DC. From the outside, we seem to live a charmed life, but the reality is that we live like siblings (he loves to cuddle and peck on the lips/cheek). We have some fun, banter and bicker quite often (but nothing serious) and life revolves around our home, the DC and our broader families.

For the first 7 years or so, we had a fun, exciting and healthy sex life. At that point, DH got a much bigger, more stressful job and his sex drive declined significantly. For a decade or so after, I made a lot of advances, bought nice lingerie, stayed slim and groomed and got rejected nearly every time. He was always too tired and over that time we usually had sex once a week, always at his initiation and on a weekend morning (really it was just a quick fumble before busy day started). All DC were conceived first time, which was incredibly lucky!

For the past 5 years, I’ve made zero effort on that front. We’ve had sex 3 times. During that time, he tried to initiate twice more and I turned him down. He seemed to take this really personally and got offended and hasn’t asked since.

Life has been busy and bustling. We’ve shared a bed throughout all of this and cuddle every day (he initiates most of the affection). Weirdly I know he’s attractive, but I don’t find him so attractive anymore. It’s like the chemistry we had originally has fizzled out!

I assume he’s asexual or most likely quite into porn instead (I thought it may be a bit of ED on the last few times actually).

So the point of my post is that he recently asked me when I’m going to lose THE WEIGHT. I’ve put that in capitol letters, as it really was astonishing when he said it. To be clear, I’ve gained probably 3.5 stone in the past 2 years (from a size 10 to 16). I know objectively that I’m no longer beautiful, but I am still attractive (sorry if that sounds big headed). In any case, I don’t know why it makes a difference to DH. I still wear make up and nice hair etc. I’m definitely more tired from a busy career and home life, so I’m not as polished perhaps and my clothes aren’t as lovely, but really my physical appearance is fatter, but not materially changed overall.

We have no sex life and he just blamed this status on THE WEIGHT. I find it astonishing, as I was a size 10 and much more beautiful for a very long time and he showed zero physical attraction towards me back then.

It’s not ok, is it for him to make an issue about my weight?

I was rejected sexually for so long even when slim. He told me last week that he wants us to have a “physical relationship”. I was so shocked at the time that I didn’t answer. The reality is that we’re like brother and sister and have been for a long time. I get changed in the bathroom for privacy. I really cannot fathom having an intimate relationship with him again. This sounds odd, but it seems inappropriate and a bit icky.

I don’t want to split up our family. I resigned myself to the current situation a long time ago and we’ve been great co-parents so far. Luckily there’s no financial pressures if we do split up, but it would make a big difference to our DC and I love DH, he’s my best friend.

P.s. I know there’s a Sex board on here, but that seems to be full of people wanting tips etc, rather than broader issues in a relationship

OP posts:
Oblomov19 · 05/06/2019 16:43

Why haven't you said all this to him? Asked him? Had conversations about it?

That he never wanted you when you were a size 10, so why now?

You sound detached. Like it's already well and truely over.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 05/06/2019 16:43

Nice of him NOT to blame his issues on you now, issues that were there long before any weight gain on your part. But do stop resigning yourself to this current situation, what has that achieved anyway?

Re your comment:-
"I don’t want to split up our family"

Why not?. You need to be honest with yourself here as to why you think this. Staying for the children rarely if ever is a good idea and in your case a bad one.

This current set up may suit you because on some level you are seemingly getting what you want out of this relationship. Well he is anyway, you I am not so sure about.

What do you want to teach your children however about relationships and what are they learning here?. Would you however want what is in effect a loveless marriage to be their "norm" too, you're both showing them exactly this. How would you feel if your kids were to marry someone exactly like your spouse?.

I would think your children know far more than either of you give any of them credit for. They see a model of a relationship that is really not fit for purpose and pick up on all the vibes both spoken and unspoken between you and he here. One day too these children will leave home and sooner rather than later; what for you and your H then?.

Moralitym1n1 · 05/06/2019 16:43

I think you need to remind him directly that you didn’t have an active sex life even when you were ‘slim’ and see what he says about it.

Seconded.

Thirded really - because someone else said it too.

Notthetoothfairy · 05/06/2019 16:45

A size 16 can be beautiful and very sexy too. No shortage of takers here (despite my being married!)

Lifeover · 05/06/2019 16:45

He has probably convinced himself that this is the problem. Is he gay and in denial? Been seeing other women? If I was you I would go into his phone/computer and look us the search history, use a find a friend tracker on his phone.

In the short term I would just say that after years of constant rejection your self esteem was shot to pieces and if you have put on weight this is the most likely cause. So as he caused the issue what is he going to do to solve it?

sincethereis · 05/06/2019 16:46

If you’ve gained weight (10-16 is a lot) then your husband is justified in not finding you attractive anymore.

If my husband gained that much weight, I wouldn’t be attracted to him physically.

Also, your marriage sounds pretty much over tbh. Splitting up amicably sounds like the best option. You sound lovely and aside from his harsh comments he sounds like a decent guy so you both deserve better Smile

NameChange92 · 05/06/2019 16:51

You need to have an honest conversation with him about all of this. It sounds like he might think you don’t want to have sex because YOU’RE uncomfortable with your weight, rather than he doesn’t want to have sex because he’s uncomfortable with your weight. And I can kind of see how he’s reached that conclusion if you’ve not had a real conversation about this.

The only way he’s going to know what’s really going on I’m your head is if you tell him

KatherineJaneway · 05/06/2019 16:51

Be direct and say you weren't interested when I was a size 10, why should I be interested in you after so much rejection.

I agree. Put it back on him.

AmICrazyorWhat2 · 05/06/2019 16:51

I think you need to remind him directly that you didn’t have an active sex life even when you were ‘slim’ and see what he says about it.

Exactly. There's an ongoing problem here- and it's him!

Personally, I would consider losing some weight for yourself, as gaining 3.5 stone in two years isn't great for you health-wise.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 05/06/2019 16:51

"If you’ve gained weight (10-16 is a lot) then your husband is justified in not finding you attractive anymore".

Really?. I think this is all on him and he is actually using OPs weight now as a convenient excuse. He has never really to my mind been completely honest with the OP and I feel she has been used by him as his beard, she could well be his mask of respectability.

This is not about OPs weight and never has been. There were problems with sex and intimacy even when she was a size 10.

Justaboy · 05/06/2019 16:55

Umpteen reports out there saying that modern lifestyles are causing couples to have less sex, or more like less time for Sex.

haloumi · 05/06/2019 16:56

It is possible for men to not be that interested in sex AND not be having affairs …. I speak from experience.

I think, deep down (excuse the pun), your husband probably DOES want to have a physical relationship of some kind, he just doesn't fancy you and that is accelerated by his extremely low sex drive.

Give him a break, work through the whole thing gently for BOTH your sakes and make the best of an otherwise normal realtionship

Pearlfish · 05/06/2019 16:57

You need to have a proper conversation about this OP. It sounds like when he said it you were so surprised that you didn't really respond? Set aside some time when you know you won't be interrupted and talk through it.

It's totally unfair of him to blame your poor sex life on your weight if he rejected you continually when you were a size 10.

Having said that, going through a dry period (even one that lasts several years) does not necessarily mean that you've both signed up for a life with no sexual relationship. He's allowed to change his mind. If he wants to get your sex life back on track, then you both need to STOP talking about whose fault it is that you don't have sex at the moment and start talking about what you both want from your relationship and sex life going forwards and how to achieve that.

Frusty · 05/06/2019 17:01

He wanted the OP once a week when she was a size 10.

Frusty · 05/06/2019 17:02

Maybe he didn’t enjoy being continually asked for sex? Communication seems a real issue in this relationship.

Kittypillar · 05/06/2019 17:02

I think you need to remind him directly that you didn’t have an active sex life even when you were ‘slim’ and see what he says about it.

Another person who agrees with this. You need to make it clear to him that he is the root of problem.

Orangeballon · 05/06/2019 17:04

Maybe you should look after your health more as being diabetic is not pleasant and lots of illness are caused by weigh gain as is mental health problems.

MorondelaFrontera · 05/06/2019 17:06

It is possible for men to not be that interested in sex AND not be having affairs …. I speak from experience.

of course it is, but you can't blame adults to fall for someone else and start a new relationship if they haven't got one at home. It's a risk you accept then.

PeaPumpkinPie · 05/06/2019 17:11

I know him so well, but this is baffling. I don’t think he’s gay and if he is, he’d never act on it or admit it. I doubt he’s had an affair (you never really know). He’s attractive and in a position of authority. I do know he’s been pursued in the past. It would be the end of our marriage totally if he’s been unfaithful.

3.5 stone is a lot, I know. I’m tall though and think I carry it well. I’m not embarrassed about how I look, although I think I’ve gained weight as a physical and mental armour haha. My own sex drive is definitely lower as a result and I feel less attractive generally, so less disappointed that he doesn’t find me attractive. Hope that makes sense.

I actually thought recently about losing all of my excess weight, but that’s so that I can wear my old lovely clothes again!! Definitely not to try to be attractive to DH. That ship has sailed.

I can imagine having an intimate relationship with someone else (wouldn’t act on it), but embarrassed about the thought with DH. We literally did everything back in the old days, so I have no idea why that is now such an awful idea in my head.

So I suppose it comes down to how much he wants to pursue a sex life, because it wouldn’t be with me and then we’d not be together as a family. Thank you for all of your comments and insight. I’ve never written any of this down before, so it’s helpful to get it clear in my head. I think actually I could do with some individual therapy to work through my esteem and try not to take whatever the background issues were to heart. Thanks again

OP posts:
Knitclubchatter · 05/06/2019 17:14

How it fits into your relationship or lifestyle you probably should aim to achieve a healthy BMI and fitness level.
It sounds like his timing and wording was poor.

AnchorDownDeepBreath · 05/06/2019 17:16

Weight aside, it sounds like he wants a sexual relationship again and you do not. That may well be the end.

Do you want to work towards getting back to that with him; or is this not something that you want to fix?

There are probably things to explore if you both want to - counselling; treatment for ED, making more time for one another, etc - but you'd both need to want to.

HelenaDove · 05/06/2019 17:17

Ulrika Jonssons husband only had sex with her once in ten years OP. Its NOT your weight

How old are your DC Is your DH prepared to put his money where his mouth is and provide childcare so you can tackle this if you want to. If you do .............do it for you not for him.

ittakes2 · 05/06/2019 17:18

I think you should ask him to get his testosterone checked - the tiredness, lack of labido plus possible ED are all signs of a flagging testosterone level.

GummyGoddess · 05/06/2019 17:18

I wouldn't call a quick fumble once a week a good sex life. Sounds like he couldn't be bothered.

HelenaDove · 05/06/2019 17:20

"it sounds like he wants a sexual relationship again and you do not"

Yeah OP You were expected to hang around on the off chance that he might decide he wants sex again purely on a whim. And keep the flame burning all by yourself............just in case Hmm