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Friendship Advice - Is this even a friend?

87 replies

BuzzLightyear1 · 28/03/2019 16:39

I am not great at navigating friendships and have tended to have a small number of long term friends which I appreciate. I nurture this friendships, make time for them, remember special occasions and always try to be available to help them. These friendships are all decades old, which is perhaps testament to be awkwardness as an adult in making friends, but I was happy with this.

When I had son 6 years ago a woman at baby group immediately latched on to me. I knew her life story within a couple of meetings. She started messaging daily and wanting to meet up. As I was pretty lonely at home with ds I went along with it. I was wary of her intensity but at the same time she was on am abusive relationship and I felt sorry for her. She wasn't like anyone I was usually friends with, lots of "hi Hun" and "love you" "you are amazing" blah blah blah, I'm not really like that but otherwise she was quite sweet and our kids became friends as they grew up. We spent alot of time discussing her relationship problems and I tried to be a support as she had noone else, and over time I considered her a friend and cared for her.

18 months ago she finally had enough of the abuse and was able to leave her husband. I let her stay at mine with her son while she sorted out a place and spent hours organising what she was entitled to and helping her find a home and help her get on her feet.

Within weeks she met someone else and moved him in, which while I silently disapproved I didn't say anything much, it's her life.

Since moving him in I hardly see her. I look after her son a few days each school holiday while she works, which is a 6am to 6pm day and exhausting (her son is high functioning autistic and lovely but hard work). But I only seem to see her when she needs childcare and can go for weeks with no contact in between.

When she does message she is still intense, refers to be as her bestie, says she loves me... That sort of thing (which makes me a bit uncomfortable because I never know how to respond). However, I am happy to let the friendship drift, I did come to care for her and was happy to support her when she needed it but as her life moved on I was happy for her. Our boys go to different schools and my ds doesn't ask after his old friend.

A couple of months ago my son was diagnosed with a long term illness which has been very stressful and emotional. I messaged her to tell her and she replied "ah no Hun, always here for you both". I thanked her but then heard nothing more until today. I would have thought she would have enquired how he was before, but to be honest so much has been going on I hadn't really noticed, and life is busy for everyone so....

Today she has messaged "hey Hun, how are you beautiful. Miss you so much, you mean the world to me. Just sorting school hols, can you do..." And a lost of four days she wants me to look after her son over Easter. I feel like since she got out of her old relationship and got on her feet she didn't need my support so didn't keep bothering with me, and now only uses me when she needs childcare, but almost love bombs me to make me feel like I have to comply. I don't know how to reply... I don't really want to provide 4 days of free childcare when I could be doing other stuff and honestly, I feel like I am being used now.

So, help me please! Firstly how to reply, and also to make sense of the friendship. It makes me sad to think I have been used and that the friendship wasn't real, but that's how it feels.

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DelphiMum · 28/03/2019 16:42

“Sorry I can’t do those days. It’d be nice to catch up. Do you have time for coffee next week?”

No reply, no friend.

crappyday2018 · 28/03/2019 16:43

Hi OP, firstly sorry to hear about your DS and I hope he is going to be ok.

I'm afraid she is a fair weather friend and very selfish. Lots of people are like this sadly.

I would respond along the lines of "Hi nice to hear from you. So sorry I won't be able to help out with as much childcare what with my son's illness, I need to focus on that as I'm sure you understand".

I wouldn't be helping her out anymore. if she was any sort of friend she will have no problem with this. Sadly though, I suspect she will disappear when you are no longer of use.

Ditch her.

MamMamMam · 28/03/2019 16:45

Reply really sorry but we're busy then. Hope you get sorted. Catch up soon with no intention to buzz

Do commit to why your busy. You just are.

Hate people like that .

MamMamMam · 28/03/2019 16:46

Sorry ment don't commit

Baconcob · 28/03/2019 16:47

She is only a friend when it suits her. Don’t do childcare over the holidays. She’s a user. Just say ‘I’m afraid that doesn’t work for me’. Her response will tell you everything you need to know.

Bookworm4 · 28/03/2019 16:48

4 x 12 hours =. Lovely saving in childcare costs
She's a user.

MrsWembley · 28/03/2019 16:50

Just remind her gently that your time is now taken up with looking after your own DS and, without apologising, tell her you can't help anymore.

Jaxhog · 28/03/2019 16:52

Nope, not a friend. Unless you call free childminding friendship (I don't).

Elizabeth2019 · 28/03/2019 16:54

Sometimes people are very intense but ultimately won’t stay the course once their need is met. It’s hard to come to terms with but treasure the nice times, if you didn’t realise or insitigate meet ups during this time then you may have naturally drifted too. So hugs and I hope your DS is going to be okay.

Her request for child care.... definitely rude! I’d do an emergency day for an old friend (well actually most people if they needed it desperately) but not a standard holiday work cover - there are places you can pay for that! Unless she’s offering to pay you?....

Polite but firm is the way to go here; “Hi (blah), nice to hear from you but I’m afraid that due to DS ongoing medical issues I can’t help you out. Let me know if you’re ever free for a quick catch up, it’s been ages since we’ve spoken.”

Ball is in her court and you’ve been polite but pointed out how little she’s given though to your situation.

Baconcob · 28/03/2019 16:56

Of course you could text back, ‘it’s funny how I only seem to hear from you when you want childcare. Hun.’

BumbleBeee69 · 28/03/2019 16:58

She's used you from beginning to end... say NO to the Easter break childcare. Flowers

ElizabethMainwaring · 28/03/2019 17:00

What crappyday said was perfect. That's all the advice you need.

Ringringringgrin · 28/03/2019 17:03

I am doing free childcare for anyone anymore. I have had enough of being used. Take care

Singlenotsingle · 28/03/2019 17:03

She's a CF, isn't she? Shock

Ringringringgrin · 28/03/2019 17:04

Hope your son is okay. Very stressful when children are ill, I know.

StormTreader · 28/03/2019 17:09

"Sorry, [son]s illness means I won't be doing any childcare for anyone for the foreseeable future. Hope you find someone to take him!"

Thatnovembernight · 28/03/2019 17:18

Wow - she’s something else! I’d have a quick google for childcare near her and then send her a link with a message saying ‘Sorry I can’t help you out but you could give these guys a go:’ etc etc.

BuzzLightyear1 · 28/03/2019 17:30

Ok I have replied, I basically said that due to ongoing issues with my son I didn't want to commit to childcare and then have to let her down if ds was too unwell on the day as he is very up and down and on the down days often stays in bed. I also said that I missed her too and that perhaps if she has anytime off over Easter we could try and meet up.

DS is ok thanks to those who asked. I don't want to say what illness is due to it being quite rare and outing. Basically he will probably be unwell for a long time and we have had to make many changes to accommodate this, however ultimately he should recover and be ok. However, at the time I first told friend about illness we did not know if he would be able to make a recovery or what would happen, which is why I guess her not contacting me speaks volumes, she didn't even mention it in her recent message...

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Bookworm4 · 28/03/2019 17:37

I think she's beyond selfish, from what you've said your DS has a serious illness and she has the cheek to ask you to look after her child with HFA, inconsiderate bint.

StormTreader · 28/03/2019 17:38

I would say to be prepared for a text on the first morning "My childcare has fallen through! It's an emergency, I'm sure you can manage to look after both, you're so great! xxxx"

Unfortunately you've implied in your text that you CAN do childcare as long as your son is not having a "bad" day - be ready for her to push a lot more before she or you finally give up.

BuzzLightyear1 · 28/03/2019 17:43

I just want to say that I know she comes across dreadfully from what I post, when we were close and saw each other lots she was quite sweet, I guess she was vulnerable with noone else and I felt sorry for her too. I am happy that she is happy now and my misgivings about moving the bloke in so soon were obviously unfounded as they are still together and from the little I know they are very happy. In one sense, the intensity bothered me and so I got what I wanted.

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Heatherjayne1972 · 28/03/2019 18:27

You’ve said no
Why don’t you block her number until after the Easter holidays

ArkAtEee · 28/03/2019 22:34

OP you sound lovely and she may be sweet but she's certainly not above taking advantage. Agree with pp to expect some pushback and to be put on the spot; I'd prepare some firm answers now or block as suggested.

Underworld345 · 28/03/2019 22:43

Has she replied?

BuzzLightyear1 · 29/03/2019 09:12

Yes, she replied last night.
Lots of Huns and love yous 😀
She said it's fine, she has been thinking of him everyday and hasn't contacted me as she wanted to give us space, and she'll see how ds feels nearer the time and hopefully he will be up to her ds coming.

To which I replied she would need to find an alternative as it's unlikely I will be able to help and hopefully ds will be up to us all getting together at some point over the holidays.

She replied that it's unlikely as she is working and that her ds is really upset he won't see my ds, this was at 11pm so either he was up really late for her to have told him then or its an attempt at emotional manipulation. I will leave it there and see if I hear from her now I'm of no use to her.

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