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Friendship Advice - Is this even a friend?

87 replies

BuzzLightyear1 · 28/03/2019 16:39

I am not great at navigating friendships and have tended to have a small number of long term friends which I appreciate. I nurture this friendships, make time for them, remember special occasions and always try to be available to help them. These friendships are all decades old, which is perhaps testament to be awkwardness as an adult in making friends, but I was happy with this.

When I had son 6 years ago a woman at baby group immediately latched on to me. I knew her life story within a couple of meetings. She started messaging daily and wanting to meet up. As I was pretty lonely at home with ds I went along with it. I was wary of her intensity but at the same time she was on am abusive relationship and I felt sorry for her. She wasn't like anyone I was usually friends with, lots of "hi Hun" and "love you" "you are amazing" blah blah blah, I'm not really like that but otherwise she was quite sweet and our kids became friends as they grew up. We spent alot of time discussing her relationship problems and I tried to be a support as she had noone else, and over time I considered her a friend and cared for her.

18 months ago she finally had enough of the abuse and was able to leave her husband. I let her stay at mine with her son while she sorted out a place and spent hours organising what she was entitled to and helping her find a home and help her get on her feet.

Within weeks she met someone else and moved him in, which while I silently disapproved I didn't say anything much, it's her life.

Since moving him in I hardly see her. I look after her son a few days each school holiday while she works, which is a 6am to 6pm day and exhausting (her son is high functioning autistic and lovely but hard work). But I only seem to see her when she needs childcare and can go for weeks with no contact in between.

When she does message she is still intense, refers to be as her bestie, says she loves me... That sort of thing (which makes me a bit uncomfortable because I never know how to respond). However, I am happy to let the friendship drift, I did come to care for her and was happy to support her when she needed it but as her life moved on I was happy for her. Our boys go to different schools and my ds doesn't ask after his old friend.

A couple of months ago my son was diagnosed with a long term illness which has been very stressful and emotional. I messaged her to tell her and she replied "ah no Hun, always here for you both". I thanked her but then heard nothing more until today. I would have thought she would have enquired how he was before, but to be honest so much has been going on I hadn't really noticed, and life is busy for everyone so....

Today she has messaged "hey Hun, how are you beautiful. Miss you so much, you mean the world to me. Just sorting school hols, can you do..." And a lost of four days she wants me to look after her son over Easter. I feel like since she got out of her old relationship and got on her feet she didn't need my support so didn't keep bothering with me, and now only uses me when she needs childcare, but almost love bombs me to make me feel like I have to comply. I don't know how to reply... I don't really want to provide 4 days of free childcare when I could be doing other stuff and honestly, I feel like I am being used now.

So, help me please! Firstly how to reply, and also to make sense of the friendship. It makes me sad to think I have been used and that the friendship wasn't real, but that's how it feels.

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Mitzimaybe · 29/03/2019 19:36

I think the present is to make you think you "owe" her something in return. She is definitely trying to manipulate you into providing the free childcare for the holidays. Stay firm, OP. Don't apologise. When she asks again (which she will - potentially she might even turn up on the doorstep on the day) - simply say, "I already told you, it's not possible." Don't apologise, don't justify. Just "I can't do it. It's not possible."

SpeakUpXXWomen · 29/03/2019 19:40

She's seen this thread and clicked OP!

As a balancing point of view for you when my friend's dc recently had a tough time with an ongoing diagnosis and was very ill for some time my response was "let me know if there is anything you need or anything I can do". I also dropped off a goodie bag when they were stuck in hospital, checked that was ok first obviously and didn't stick around to wear out ill dc. She is a good friend, been there for me many a time and you know what I would rather saw my own toe off with a rusty knife than take a loan of her whilst she already has her plate full dealing with ill dc. My only business when we do meet up is to have a nice catch up and put a smile on her face not ask for favours!

BumbleBeee69 · 29/03/2019 19:55

Agree - she senses that you are reluctant to do the free childcare and this is just more emotional manipulation.

I agree, and damn she's persistent, she's getting seriously desperate and is manipulating the whole situation to her advantage. Flowers

Chocolateisfab · 29/03/2019 19:56

If she was genuine she would have wanted to share a hug not pass on a material gift - it was to pave the way for ds wanting cfj to come over.
*cheeky fucker junior

cstaff · 29/03/2019 20:11

Omg this woman is so manipulative and you are too nice to see through her. No offence op. That is a backhand compliment. I hope your dc recovers well but in the meantime stay well away

By all means take calls and answer texts from her but just let her know how much care your own child needs and how little time you have to spare etc.

Also her taking off without talking to you speaks volumes. Who does that.

onemoremummy · 29/03/2019 20:18

The only way to find out for sure if she’s really trying to make amends or if she’s just trying to manipulate you into providing free childcare is by sticking to your position of not offering childcare anymore, and seeing if she continues to meet up / reach out to you without insisting on the childcare.

onemoremummy · 29/03/2019 20:20

Keep repeating to her “I’m sorry but I cannot watch your son anymore” - without elaborating further.

Chocolateisfab · 29/03/2019 20:45

Maybe drop into text chat that you have approached the local council about becoming a child minder and would she like a list of potential charges for future child care of her ds?

Underworld345 · 29/03/2019 22:11

Regardless of what her intentions are with the present, stick to your guns about the childcare. You’ll find out soon enough if she’s trying to manipulate or genuinely do something nice for your DS. Even if it is genuine, Please don’t feel like you should now do the childcare.

18875hulu · 29/03/2019 22:13

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LookingforHope · 30/03/2019 10:59

Agree with Mitzi it wouldn't surprise me if she turned up on the day with her DS saying she is desperate and has no childcare Hmm ... if it were me I'd be planning to spend a few days staying with family during the holidays (or staying at the back of the house with the blinds closed and door locked). She's a real CF

prozacgirl · 30/03/2019 11:06

She sounds very emotionally manipulative and not a healthy friend with boundaries. Back right off. Be friendly but clear. Refocus on your other friends if you can and don't engage too much or overthink it. She sounds like a bit of a selfish nightmare and probably likes the drama.

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