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Friendship Advice - Is this even a friend?

87 replies

BuzzLightyear1 · 28/03/2019 16:39

I am not great at navigating friendships and have tended to have a small number of long term friends which I appreciate. I nurture this friendships, make time for them, remember special occasions and always try to be available to help them. These friendships are all decades old, which is perhaps testament to be awkwardness as an adult in making friends, but I was happy with this.

When I had son 6 years ago a woman at baby group immediately latched on to me. I knew her life story within a couple of meetings. She started messaging daily and wanting to meet up. As I was pretty lonely at home with ds I went along with it. I was wary of her intensity but at the same time she was on am abusive relationship and I felt sorry for her. She wasn't like anyone I was usually friends with, lots of "hi Hun" and "love you" "you are amazing" blah blah blah, I'm not really like that but otherwise she was quite sweet and our kids became friends as they grew up. We spent alot of time discussing her relationship problems and I tried to be a support as she had noone else, and over time I considered her a friend and cared for her.

18 months ago she finally had enough of the abuse and was able to leave her husband. I let her stay at mine with her son while she sorted out a place and spent hours organising what she was entitled to and helping her find a home and help her get on her feet.

Within weeks she met someone else and moved him in, which while I silently disapproved I didn't say anything much, it's her life.

Since moving him in I hardly see her. I look after her son a few days each school holiday while she works, which is a 6am to 6pm day and exhausting (her son is high functioning autistic and lovely but hard work). But I only seem to see her when she needs childcare and can go for weeks with no contact in between.

When she does message she is still intense, refers to be as her bestie, says she loves me... That sort of thing (which makes me a bit uncomfortable because I never know how to respond). However, I am happy to let the friendship drift, I did come to care for her and was happy to support her when she needed it but as her life moved on I was happy for her. Our boys go to different schools and my ds doesn't ask after his old friend.

A couple of months ago my son was diagnosed with a long term illness which has been very stressful and emotional. I messaged her to tell her and she replied "ah no Hun, always here for you both". I thanked her but then heard nothing more until today. I would have thought she would have enquired how he was before, but to be honest so much has been going on I hadn't really noticed, and life is busy for everyone so....

Today she has messaged "hey Hun, how are you beautiful. Miss you so much, you mean the world to me. Just sorting school hols, can you do..." And a lost of four days she wants me to look after her son over Easter. I feel like since she got out of her old relationship and got on her feet she didn't need my support so didn't keep bothering with me, and now only uses me when she needs childcare, but almost love bombs me to make me feel like I have to comply. I don't know how to reply... I don't really want to provide 4 days of free childcare when I could be doing other stuff and honestly, I feel like I am being used now.

So, help me please! Firstly how to reply, and also to make sense of the friendship. It makes me sad to think I have been used and that the friendship wasn't real, but that's how it feels.

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Chocolateisfab · 29/03/2019 09:17

Agree to you blocking her til after the holidays.....

Bigfatbaby · 29/03/2019 09:37

" it's lovely that he wants to see us, let me know what day suits for a meet up over Easter."

"I won't be doing childcare though, so best you find someone else now."

Fedupofthisrubbish · 29/03/2019 09:42

Op she is absolutely horrible. You have gone over and above repeatedly and now she's not taking no for an answer.

I had a friend like this, different circumstances but 100% used me. I didn't mind as in some ways I was having an easier time so was happy to help. When the chips were down for me though (it was me who was in hospital not knowing if I'd survive) she unbelievably was too busy to visit (no other commitments bar a part time job) and had her hand out trying to get some last favours and money from me. She never even contacted me to find out if I'd recovered (I did - fully!).

This person is just awful and you should remove her from your life. You have been clear you would like to see her without being critical of her absence or accusatory. I did the same. So your conscience is clear now. I would block her everywhere. You will feel very relieved.

FriarTuck · 29/03/2019 09:46

She said it's fine, she has been thinking of him everyday and hasn't contacted me as she wanted to give us space, and she'll see how ds feels nearer the time and hopefully he will be up to her ds coming.
Shock She really is the gift that keeps on giving. I'd not bother with any contact at all from now on. She's really shown you what she needs you for and it's not friendship.

pumpkinpie01 · 29/03/2019 09:56

The cheek of some people, so selfish. 'Giving you space' ! I know someone who uses that line and its not giving you space its being forgetting, being rude and generally not giving a damn!

Musti · 29/03/2019 10:04

What a user! You definitely did the right thing.

ChristmasFluff · 29/03/2019 10:17

I had a 'friend' like this - always wanting to see me with her relationship dramas, always wanting to go out with me to post FB photos of us out when she was 'on a break' and wanted to make her partner jealous. Always wanting me to help out in some way. Then after ignoring me for months, she'd ply me with presents and compliments to ensure I felt obligated to help her again.

So after more no contact for months, except for asking me for something I couldn't do because I was ill, she wanted to come and stay with me for a few days 'to get away from her partner'. I said no, as I was still very unwell. She said, 'I'll come anyway, to look after you' - I knew that there would be no 'looking after me' involved. I replied, 'no you won't' and then blocked her completely and with no other explanation.

This has gone far enough, it's time for you to do the same. You won't miss her, I guarantee.

NoShoeShops · 29/03/2019 10:49

She’s a CF isn’t she?! She’s still angling for childcare even though you said no.

I have no doubt that on the day you will get an ‘emergency’ phone call saying how her childcare has fallen through and can you take her DS.

BuzzLightyear1 · 29/03/2019 11:46

She sent me a picture of her son this morning, looking sad and text "ds hopes his friend feels better soon, we love you both so much"
I haven't replied yet, but will probably just say thanks!

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Bookworm4 · 29/03/2019 11:58

She sent you a photo of her son?? Jesus wept she really is a manipulative cunt. How can she not see you have enough to deal with, your DS is seriously ill, nobody with an ounce of decency would even ask! 😡

NoShoeShops · 29/03/2019 12:27

Christ on a bike she’s persistent! Don’t wobble OP.

BuzzLightyear1 · 29/03/2019 12:47

The cynical me thinks the picture was to make me feel sorry for him and childcare but my first instinct was just that she had told her son his friend was unwell and he wanted to wish him better. From the responses you think the former?

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BumbleBeee69 · 29/03/2019 12:53

She's a bullying manipulative bitch... stay strong and stop explaining yourself .. say NO Flowers

MzHz · 29/03/2019 12:57

Absolutely this is a ploy to manipulate you!

Nobody but nobody sends a pic of a sad kid to cheer another one up!!

She’s not sending best wishes, she’s sending something to up the ante!

Block and roll... *

No, don’t do that, you have a nest of vipers to enthrall with the certain drama she will whip up for the days counting down to the Easter holidays

BuzzLightyear1 · 29/03/2019 13:03

Blocking her seems a bit extreme, she's not said anything nasty, but been a bit unavailable and yes, possibly manipulative, but she would claim otherwise.

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WhoKnewBeefStew · 29/03/2019 13:10

Is simply reply ‘DS says ‘hi’ too’ and leave it at that.

She’s certainly angling for childcare so I’d definitely put your foot down on that and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if she tried again closer to the times so be prepared with some stock closed answers for when she’s ‘stuck and it’s an emergency’

I think blocking is a bit extreme tho

crappyday2018 · 29/03/2019 13:29

OP she really IS being manipulative. You have enough on your plate with your son so the fact she even asked you is selfish, never mind then making you feel guilty when you said know.
The decent response would have been "oh of course, I shouldn't have asked, please let me know if I can help out in any way"!!
Not "oh my son will be so disappointed"!!!
What she means is, she is disappointed you can't help her out.

Happynow001 · 29/03/2019 13:41

@BuzzLightyear1
Your "friend" is manipulating you. She'll keep pushing in a very "nice, kind, my DS misses your DS" way until you give in and she gets what she wants. It will then be harder to reassert your boundaries.

Don't leave her any openings for her to lever her way back in. I agree, now you've said no, however politely, to block her at least until after Easter (longer if you can) so she gets the message and, in future, say "no I'm sorry that doesn't work for me" clearly and with conviction.

Your priority is your son and your family - and she's trying to trample over that.

CoraPirbright · 29/03/2019 13:41

God she’s not giving up, is she?! I would reiterate that you will NOT be able to cover her childcare and she MUST make other arrangements. I predict a nasty, snippy reply and then no contact.

Rumbletum2 · 29/03/2019 13:43

She’s not just cheeky - she’s not very nice.

BumbleBeee69 · 29/03/2019 13:53

Agreed, she is certainly not nice, her agenda is get gain free childcare, from You Flowers

adulthumanwolf · 29/03/2019 13:55

She's being extremely manipulative.

cstaff · 29/03/2019 13:59

She really doesn't care about you or your sick child - she only has one thing in mind and that is free childcare. Don't let her get to you no matter how many "stories" she comes up with. You look after your child and yourself.

Hope your little boy recovers.

Fedupofthisrubbish · 29/03/2019 14:09

Write "thanks. If ds is up to it I will let him stay with you some weekend. The break would be very welcome."

FriarTuck · 29/03/2019 14:16

Don't reply. She's trying to keep communication channels open with you so that she can keep on with emotional bollocks and get you to provide babysitting services. Ignore it and it makes it that much harder for her.