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(Please Help.) Experiencing sexual rejection~

127 replies

NeedingHelp811 · 26/03/2019 15:38

[Disclaimer: This topic is of a sexual nature, and therefore sex is openly (but not overly) talked about in this post]

Sorry for the long post! I just want to explain myself in detail, but thanks to those that do read it :)

Hi. So I’m 19, and my boyfriend is 20. We’ve been dating for about a year and a half now, and whilst the majority of things are good, the sexual side of our relationship is getting so bad that it’s effecting every other part, and I need some second thoughts and advice! Thanks in advance to anyone who reads this and replies :)

At the start he made it clear sex was not only new to him, but also worried him a little bit. After explaining that it’s normal to be nervous, and being understanding with him taking his time, we started to build up to sexual things.
We started with very small steps and over a month or two we build up to the point where he was comfortable with most things, such as oral for example, but we never actually had sex. He also confided in me about a ‘kink’ that he has that clearly wasn’t easy for him to admit, but I was open to it and we explored it together, and he was very thankful and enjoyed himself a lot. Going through that period of self discovery with him was amazing, and it bought us so much closer as a couple.

However, things gradually started to go downhill. After...a few months maybe...Instead of continuing with what we’d been doing (building up and exploring stuff together), we started to go in the other direction.
Intimacy started to fade from our relationship in almost every form: if I would be holding his hand in public he’d make me stop and say it made him felt uncomfortable, if I was what he considered to be too affectionate he’d want me to stop or ‘calm down’ ect, he wouldn’t want to kiss me at all in public and hardly in private. Being pushed away for basic things like trying to hold his hand hurt, and my brain started to just overthink everything!

But, the effect in the bedroom was a lot worse! Intimacy went from a regular thing to something that was few and far between. He never, ever initiated or offered or showed interest, and since I had to be the person to do this, I was being turned down 95% off the time. A variety of excuses of course: I’m not in the mood, I’m too tired, we’ll do it tomorrow or later (but actually wouldn’t) ect. He’d also push my hand away if I tried to put my hands on his body, and stuff like that.
When he actually wanted intimacy, it was completely focused around his kink, and he didn’t want to do anything else, making me feel like he didn’t really want me... he just wanted...’that’. But now even that has stopped, and he doesn’t even want that now.
He’s said stuff to me like ‘there’s nothing nice or intimate about fingering’ for example, and multiple comments like that combined with his very strong desire to involve his kink have made me think he could be a-sexual...I am his first partner after all.. :(

This has had a serious, serious effect on me. It’s hurting my self esteem, my body image, my mental health and more. I’m sure some people here understand, but to have the person you love putting you down for being affectionate, pushing you away if you try to be sexual, and constantly delaying promised intimacy until it never happened...it really does hurt to have that happen so consistently. It’s making me feel ugly, un-loved, un-wanted and more.

I’ve tried different avenues. I’ve never ever forced sex on him, for me that’s not fun at all. I’ve always politely asked, and tried to be understanding when he says no. I’ve tried talking to him a few times, very calmly and gently because I know it’s a sensitive subject, and tried to explain to him that the rejection is getting to me, and that isn’t okay. Each time he’d say he understands, and each time id be let down: the most I’d actually get would be one intimate act that night, usually focused around his kink, and then back to normal...and sometimes nothing would change at all.
I’ve talked to him so, so many times, again never being forceful and leaving time between conversations, but always the same result: nothing.
I’ve also tried ‘not caring’... trying not to care about our lack of intimacy and focus on the good things. But I can’t. I need that in a relationship... I need to feel love and affection from a partner... and I really don’t think that’s too much to ask.

And that brings me to where I am now. I can’t actually remember the last time we had ‘fun’ together because it’s been so long, and I’d also like to reiterate that we’ve never actually had sex despite being together for a year and a half.
I’ve seriously started to loose desire for him, because at this point, he’s turned me away so many times. I’m not even sure if... I’m still attracted to him in the same way...it’s confusing right now. When I think of intimacy, I think of consensual pleasure between two people who love each other... but when I think of it with him I just think of him making excuses, him pushing my hand away from him, and the fact he doesn’t seem attracted to me. I said this to him, that it’s got to the point where I’m actually loosing physical interest in him, and he seemed really upset. He tried to explain that sex isn’t easy for him, and that he’ll try, but to be honest I’m not sure I even believe him at this point no matter how upset he seemed. I’m scared it’s too little too late, I don’t feel that same flare for him that I did, and I really don’t want it to be gone!

I do also want to say that I know a relationship isn’t all about sex, but to me showing intimacy and love (one of the ways you can show this is through sex) is important, and necessary, and I haven’t been getting that. I’ve stayed completely faithful, despite actually having people ask me out, despite having people actually offer me sex, and despite my ex surprisingly offering himself ‘on the side’, I’ve stayed faithful to him. Whilst this post may paint a negative light of him, I do love him like I’ve never loved anyone else, and I really don’t want to loose him. But...I’m starting to not even feel attracted to him anymore, and the pain all this is causing me... I’m not sure how much longer I can take it...

Any advice or comments are really appreciated! Thank you for reading, have a nice day :)

OP posts:
SandrasAnnoyingFriend · 26/03/2019 15:49

I hate to say it but you're flogging a dead horse.
You are sexually incompatible and he has major issues that he either can't or won't address.
You really need to face up to the fact that you won't have the relationship you want and deserve with this man.

Scott72 · 26/03/2019 15:55

Sex is very important to romantic relationships. It sounds like he has a very low libido. Or just possibly he's gay. It sounds like he's aware of how much unhappiness he's causing you, but can't change even though he's trying. Just leave him. Break it off now.

Redlocks28 · 26/03/2019 15:58

Is his ‘kink’ to do with his arse?

Is he gay?

Mistlewoeandwhine · 26/03/2019 15:58

Lord above, you are 19. There is a whole world of men out there, just waiting for you. Let this one go. Far too many issues and they are NOT your job to solve.

Quartz2208 · 26/03/2019 16:00

It should not be this tough

reallybadidea · 26/03/2019 16:01

Is his ‘kink’ to do with his arse?

Is he gay?

Exactly what I was wondering

SkinnyPete · 26/03/2019 16:04

You're 19, and I know you feel wrapped up and in love with this guy, but the only answer is move on.

You're way too young to be accepting anything less than what is fulfilling and enjoyable.

Don't waste a single second more. Move on.

Wellfuckmeinbothears · 26/03/2019 16:05

I was going to ask if his kink was arse related too. That could explain a lot. When you say oral, does that go both ways? Does he go down on you?

RatherBeRiding · 26/03/2019 16:05

It's not you, it's him. Walk away. In fact don't walk - run!

At 19 and 20 you should be at it like rabbits. He obviously has major issues around sex and intimacy and could well be gay but in denial.

Whatever - it's not your job to fix him. It won't get any better.

VeronicaDinner · 26/03/2019 16:08

It's a hopeless situation and you need to bail ASAP

NeedingHelp811 · 26/03/2019 16:09

Hey everyone.

Thanks for your quick replies! His kink isn’t to do with his arse, and doesn’t suggest that our sexualities don’t match.

I see people suggested I walk away... but Iam invested in this guy in the sense that I love him. I could have left at any point, but I do love him. That’s what makes this so difficult. I know that looking at the facts I should walk, but I do love him, so it’s not that easy.

OP posts:
Redlocks28 · 26/03/2019 16:13

there’s nothing nice or intimate about fingering

Is that because it is nice for you?

Does his kink involve him getting his rocks off but not you?

When you say he does oral, is that him doing it for you or you for him?

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 26/03/2019 16:13

I was thinking it was related to his arse and he is possibly gay too.
I’d dump him. This is not a relationship at all.

chickenalapesh · 26/03/2019 16:14

Really want to know what the kink is? I just don't know how it can get better from here on in? You're both so young and not been together long. Sorry OP

MashedSpud · 26/03/2019 16:15

Usually I’d say to work on things but it sounds pretty bad too me. You’ve been patient waiting for sex for a long time and it hasn’t happened. He complained about using his fingers. He’s coming across as being selfish only doing this kink.

I’m inclined to agree with others that he might not be sure of his sexuality.

MashedSpud · 26/03/2019 16:15

To me*

AnxietyForever · 26/03/2019 16:16

Have you tried having a 'serious' conversation with him about it? Intimacy is very important in a relationship, I mean if you can't even hold his hand I don't see how you can move past this. He sounds like he has some serious issues and if he won't let you help him you should move on for your own sake.

bagpiss · 26/03/2019 16:19

Oh lordy, life's too short, this relationship is way too much hard work and you're way too young for all these issues. He needs professional help and you'd be better off moving on.

Bookworm4 · 26/03/2019 16:19

You're invested in what? You don't share a home, no kids, no affection, what is there? Stop trying to get him to love you, walk away.
Why are so many women trying desperately to dissect pointless relationships in the hope of it getting better 🙄🙄

TeaForTheWin · 26/03/2019 16:20

Either he is gay or...

I don't know what his personality is like in general but I experienced similar with my first bf in that...he with-held sex and affection - as a means of control. If I wanted to hold his hand or anything sort of caring...he would brush it away and imply I was too needy or something we basically never had sex ect… he was actually an exceedingly selfish person and I believe a covert narcissist but of course I was young and smitten and inexperienced.

Is he cold? Is he selfish? Is there always a silly excuse? Does he make it your fault? Does he imply that you are the one doing what he is doing (eg: withholding affection)? Does he imply that you are the the one with the issues or too touchy feely or sex obsessed or anything like that? Any of these things are red flags of a controlling relationship.

Picklypickles · 26/03/2019 16:21

Love him or not you're wasting your time. You are miserable, you've tried different approaches and he doesn't want to know. Its just not working and the longer you stick around the more miserable you will become. He's never going to be who you want him to be.

MollysLips · 26/03/2019 16:21

You say you love him, but it doesn't sound like he loves you. This must be killing you - being told to "calm down" when you're only being affectionate must feel horrible.

MumsyJ · 26/03/2019 16:28

If you love him, you'll let him go. You're 19, you don't want to look at your life in retrospect with resentment, knowing you made the wrong decision by staying with him.

You've got your life ahead of you, get to know other men, there are nice ones out there you know.

Your post screams incompatibility. Run now!

BangGoesThatTheory · 26/03/2019 16:33

OP you say:
This has had a serious, serious effect on me. It’s hurting my self esteem, my body image, my mental health and more.

If you feel like this now, try to imagine how you’ll feel in a year or two down the line if you don’t walk away from this relationship. You are going to have to be brave but it’s either cut all ties with him, or become a shadow of your lovely, caring self.

Please believe everyone here who is saying you deserve a mutually satisfying sex life and sadly, you will never achieve that with this man.

Steeve · 26/03/2019 16:36

Just because a man likes anal play doesn't infer he has gay tendencies ffs.