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(Please Help.) Experiencing sexual rejection~

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NeedingHelp811 · 26/03/2019 15:38

[Disclaimer: This topic is of a sexual nature, and therefore sex is openly (but not overly) talked about in this post]

Sorry for the long post! I just want to explain myself in detail, but thanks to those that do read it :)

Hi. So I’m 19, and my boyfriend is 20. We’ve been dating for about a year and a half now, and whilst the majority of things are good, the sexual side of our relationship is getting so bad that it’s effecting every other part, and I need some second thoughts and advice! Thanks in advance to anyone who reads this and replies :)

At the start he made it clear sex was not only new to him, but also worried him a little bit. After explaining that it’s normal to be nervous, and being understanding with him taking his time, we started to build up to sexual things.
We started with very small steps and over a month or two we build up to the point where he was comfortable with most things, such as oral for example, but we never actually had sex. He also confided in me about a ‘kink’ that he has that clearly wasn’t easy for him to admit, but I was open to it and we explored it together, and he was very thankful and enjoyed himself a lot. Going through that period of self discovery with him was amazing, and it bought us so much closer as a couple.

However, things gradually started to go downhill. After...a few months maybe...Instead of continuing with what we’d been doing (building up and exploring stuff together), we started to go in the other direction.
Intimacy started to fade from our relationship in almost every form: if I would be holding his hand in public he’d make me stop and say it made him felt uncomfortable, if I was what he considered to be too affectionate he’d want me to stop or ‘calm down’ ect, he wouldn’t want to kiss me at all in public and hardly in private. Being pushed away for basic things like trying to hold his hand hurt, and my brain started to just overthink everything!

But, the effect in the bedroom was a lot worse! Intimacy went from a regular thing to something that was few and far between. He never, ever initiated or offered or showed interest, and since I had to be the person to do this, I was being turned down 95% off the time. A variety of excuses of course: I’m not in the mood, I’m too tired, we’ll do it tomorrow or later (but actually wouldn’t) ect. He’d also push my hand away if I tried to put my hands on his body, and stuff like that.
When he actually wanted intimacy, it was completely focused around his kink, and he didn’t want to do anything else, making me feel like he didn’t really want me... he just wanted...’that’. But now even that has stopped, and he doesn’t even want that now.
He’s said stuff to me like ‘there’s nothing nice or intimate about fingering’ for example, and multiple comments like that combined with his very strong desire to involve his kink have made me think he could be a-sexual...I am his first partner after all.. :(

This has had a serious, serious effect on me. It’s hurting my self esteem, my body image, my mental health and more. I’m sure some people here understand, but to have the person you love putting you down for being affectionate, pushing you away if you try to be sexual, and constantly delaying promised intimacy until it never happened...it really does hurt to have that happen so consistently. It’s making me feel ugly, un-loved, un-wanted and more.

I’ve tried different avenues. I’ve never ever forced sex on him, for me that’s not fun at all. I’ve always politely asked, and tried to be understanding when he says no. I’ve tried talking to him a few times, very calmly and gently because I know it’s a sensitive subject, and tried to explain to him that the rejection is getting to me, and that isn’t okay. Each time he’d say he understands, and each time id be let down: the most I’d actually get would be one intimate act that night, usually focused around his kink, and then back to normal...and sometimes nothing would change at all.
I’ve talked to him so, so many times, again never being forceful and leaving time between conversations, but always the same result: nothing.
I’ve also tried ‘not caring’... trying not to care about our lack of intimacy and focus on the good things. But I can’t. I need that in a relationship... I need to feel love and affection from a partner... and I really don’t think that’s too much to ask.

And that brings me to where I am now. I can’t actually remember the last time we had ‘fun’ together because it’s been so long, and I’d also like to reiterate that we’ve never actually had sex despite being together for a year and a half.
I’ve seriously started to loose desire for him, because at this point, he’s turned me away so many times. I’m not even sure if... I’m still attracted to him in the same way...it’s confusing right now. When I think of intimacy, I think of consensual pleasure between two people who love each other... but when I think of it with him I just think of him making excuses, him pushing my hand away from him, and the fact he doesn’t seem attracted to me. I said this to him, that it’s got to the point where I’m actually loosing physical interest in him, and he seemed really upset. He tried to explain that sex isn’t easy for him, and that he’ll try, but to be honest I’m not sure I even believe him at this point no matter how upset he seemed. I’m scared it’s too little too late, I don’t feel that same flare for him that I did, and I really don’t want it to be gone!

I do also want to say that I know a relationship isn’t all about sex, but to me showing intimacy and love (one of the ways you can show this is through sex) is important, and necessary, and I haven’t been getting that. I’ve stayed completely faithful, despite actually having people ask me out, despite having people actually offer me sex, and despite my ex surprisingly offering himself ‘on the side’, I’ve stayed faithful to him. Whilst this post may paint a negative light of him, I do love him like I’ve never loved anyone else, and I really don’t want to loose him. But...I’m starting to not even feel attracted to him anymore, and the pain all this is causing me... I’m not sure how much longer I can take it...

Any advice or comments are really appreciated! Thank you for reading, have a nice day :)

OP posts:
gamerchick · 26/03/2019 23:04

Good grief OP. I understand the emotion but he's going to realise who he is and dump you eventually. This is going to happen.

I've held a few cocks in my time in my 44 years and I'm telling you from experience, you're wasting your time here.

Studentnurse1981 · 26/03/2019 23:04

Fucking hell you are 19 ,,,,,,, 19 ffs . Why r u even on mumsnet.

Raspberrytruffle · 26/03/2019 23:07

Why ask for advice if your just going to stick your fingers in your ears? It's hard to hear but life is hard! There are so many women in here with a lot of life experience, listen to them.

SconesandTea · 26/03/2019 23:13

He is giving you a very clear message about how much he truly cares about your needs and it would be unwise to ignore it. You love him, but what about your needs? You have told him what they are and he doesn't compute. Guys like this take years to mature mentally. It can be SO much better than this Flowers

category12 · 26/03/2019 23:15

Relationships aren't supposed to be hard work or painful. I'm not saying it's sunshine and lollipops all the time, but it's not supposed to be like this.

Sometimes the very difficulty of it makes it harder to let go, because you're so busy pouring energy into it and it gives it a misplaced value. (Pop psychology - it's the effort justification effect.)

Love ain't pain, OP. You need to make some healthier choices for yourself.

BrusselPout · 26/03/2019 23:15

OP, read back what you have written and the advice you have been given. You are 19, you have never slept with your partner and he consistently rejects you which is damaging you in many ways. If you stay it will not get better, even if he 'proves he can change and love you' it will just lull you into a false sense of security and then start going back downhill. If you don't want to break up you need some serious couples counselling, but in all honesty you are far too young to tie yourself to someone with such little regard of their impact on you. It would be painful to leave in the short term, but far far worse in the long

Mixedbags · 26/03/2019 23:29

Has he ever had any mental health support or counselling? Is there any history of sexual abuse against him in his past?

Moralitym1n1 · 26/03/2019 23:41

This is going to sound hard but you'll get over it.

Seeing someone, spending loads of time with them, being involved in each other's lives etc all leads to investment & attachment.
There's a v hard bit when you breakneck it off (and afterward for a while) but it is the only way to let that investment and attachment reduce, in the same way it built. You have to make the break and you have to go through the unpleasant period, there's no avoiding it. Doing everything you possibly can to distract yourself and fill your time and life with enjoyable things - friends, hobbies, interests sports, travel, socialising, learning, maybe volunteering ...will help hugely.

Seriously it shouldn't be this hard or weird, whatever his issue he sounds dysfunctional. A normal guy in a relationship at any age, but especially younger, in my experience and observation; wants to have sex and lots of it.

This is just odd and dysfunctional and is messing with your head and self esteem, as it would with anyone's. You very very likely can't 'fix' him and you shouldn't have to.

Cut your losses, you're SO young, get out and enjoy your life, take every so I'll opportunity and sooner or later you'll meet someone for a normal relationship (whihgh generally involves you shagging like rabbits for the first while at least).

Moralitym1n1 · 26/03/2019 23:41

*break it off

Moralitym1n1 · 26/03/2019 23:43

*take every social opportunity

Haffiana · 26/03/2019 23:46

So:

You have never actually had sex in the year and a half you have been together.

You are willing to do his kink with him even though it makes you feel that he is having sex with his kink and not you. You are incidental.

He is not willing to do anything at all for you and even finds touching you unpleasant.

OP, you really need to wake up. You don't have a proper adult relationship, you are actually in full blown saviour-girlfriend mode. You are addicted to trying to make it all deep and meaningful, to trying to understand him and fix it all for him.

It is a sort of crush. You are stuck in a crush. You have been diverted down some obscure emotional bywater, very far from the real joy of having a proper relationship with a whole, undamaged partner who can match your feelings. All your lovely emotional warmth and energy is being sucked into the unresponsive black hole of someone who actually doesn't want it or need it.

Moralitym1n1 · 26/03/2019 23:47

Now is the perfect time in your life, at the beginning of your relationship 'life' to not fall into the trap of hanging around trying to figure out and fix someone, putting your needs below theirs, letting them affect your (often delicate at your age) self esteem, putting up with shit ... It's not you, it's him. You can meet someone else.

Brandnewshit · 27/03/2019 00:04

Does his kink involve you?
It seems like whatever it is, and I do think it makes a difference is focused on him, what do you get out of sex, he's said that there's nothing intimate about using his fingers on you, it seems that you haven't had piv sex.
So It's all about him??

CanuckBC · 27/03/2019 00:25

@NeedingHelp811 with all you have told us regarding your relationship and how it makes you feel what positives are you getting out of it? So far, low self-esteem, badly affecting your mental health and bad body image. There is t much left for the positive side that you can’t get from friends and family.

To be your age and in love is supposed to be thrilling, adventure taking, exploring your sexual side with PIV, all sides of kink exploding of what you both choose, heading off for fun weekends away, laughter, partying and more! It should be full of PDA’s and emberSsing yourselves because you can’t keep your hands off each other🥰. Newly hard one that you try and entice on in difficult situations, secret make out sessions or sex sessions, hand jobs or blow jobs in the car or sex in the car because you couldn’t wait any longer because your both too horny! That is late teens early twenties relationships😉 Le sigh, to go back to those days…

What you have is a miserable existence. Maybe he was abused as a child or has a weird view due to watching porn to much. Maybe he is in the closet. Who knows!!! It is not up to you to change him. You have been with him for 18 moths and instead of things getting better they have only gotten worse. In that time he should have come to trust you and been able
To open up to you and confide in you. You should have been able to work up full on penis in vagina sex. More intimacy not less. You should be feeling more attached, not rejected and not loved.

Don’t wasted more of the best years of your life and love on. Others are out there. You hve no responsibility of care or him. None what so ever. He has none and shown none to you at all. In fact, he has been indifferent to you within your relationship.

If you won’t leave, please get some counseling. They will help you work through this.

Coronapop · 27/03/2019 00:32

It sounds as though he will probably end it before long, he clearly does not want to be in a sexual relationship with you. Do your self-esteem a favour by being the one to end it.

MMmomDD · 27/03/2019 00:40

Somebody you love at 19 is not highly likely to turn out a life long partner.
So - no matter how many of us here will tell you to not waste time with him - you need to go through the journey yourself....

I too was in love at 19. And there were issues too, that now i’d see for what they were and would walk immediately. Back then it took me a few years of trying to overcome - because ‘I loved him’....

You’ll get there too. You’ll see that whatever his issues with sex are - they aren’t changing and it’s not ever getting better. And your body will revolt and you’ll listen.
One day.
But you aren’t there yet.

Proudirishnotpaddy · 27/03/2019 07:12

Asexual means no desire for sex. If he’s wanting his kink, he’s not asexual.

Tartanwarrior · 27/03/2019 07:14

Please don't listen to anyone saying you shouldn't be here- of course you're welcome here! No one has verified that I'm in fact a mother.

If you were my daughter, I would weep for you, and give you a hug.

Leaving him doesn't mean that you don't care for him- it means that you love yourself just a little bit more. Many women seem to have been trained to be " nice" and" supportive" to the detriment of themselves. Myself included.

It IS hard, but you will get past it, and you will flourish.
Flowers

barryfromclareisfit · 27/03/2019 07:17

Sorry but ... you need to move on. Relationships aren’t fixed, you don’t have to stay with him, so don’t.

Ivalueloyaltyaboveallelse · 27/03/2019 07:26

Move on. You say he’s not in a good place right now however neither are you.

spritesandunicorns · 27/03/2019 07:28

Pleases leave him. You’re 19. You have Your best years ahead of you before you have all the extra responsibilities that getting a bit older gives you. Why would you want to waste that time on this man? You say you love him but he clearly doesn’t love you.

yearinyearout · 27/03/2019 09:23

I don't know what you expect people to say here. You've asked for advice, you've had plenty of it and you're just refusing to listen to it 🤷🏼‍♀️

Arealhumanbeing · 27/03/2019 09:43

I could have left at any point, but I do love him.

You’re attached to him. It will pass eventually but you need to brave and end the relationship. He is hurting you, the relationship is hurting you.

Have you given any thought to why you love him so much? Why it absolutely has to be him, even though he rejects you and has completely different needs to you?

You’re a teenager. The wonderful world of sex and love awaits you! The feelings of love for him will dissipate when you discover what it is to be wanted. Passionately wanted! Smile

Come on OP. We’re with you.

Namechange8471 · 27/03/2019 09:48

Jesus.

You're 19, take advice from someone who was your age 10 years ago...

Get out of this shitty relationship, find someone who is a really good lover, a brilliant shag and enjoy your life.

Don't settle down too young !

#speaks from experience

AFPH123 · 27/03/2019 09:53

At 19 you don’t need this crap!