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(Please Help.) Experiencing sexual rejection~

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NeedingHelp811 · 26/03/2019 15:38

[Disclaimer: This topic is of a sexual nature, and therefore sex is openly (but not overly) talked about in this post]

Sorry for the long post! I just want to explain myself in detail, but thanks to those that do read it :)

Hi. So I’m 19, and my boyfriend is 20. We’ve been dating for about a year and a half now, and whilst the majority of things are good, the sexual side of our relationship is getting so bad that it’s effecting every other part, and I need some second thoughts and advice! Thanks in advance to anyone who reads this and replies :)

At the start he made it clear sex was not only new to him, but also worried him a little bit. After explaining that it’s normal to be nervous, and being understanding with him taking his time, we started to build up to sexual things.
We started with very small steps and over a month or two we build up to the point where he was comfortable with most things, such as oral for example, but we never actually had sex. He also confided in me about a ‘kink’ that he has that clearly wasn’t easy for him to admit, but I was open to it and we explored it together, and he was very thankful and enjoyed himself a lot. Going through that period of self discovery with him was amazing, and it bought us so much closer as a couple.

However, things gradually started to go downhill. After...a few months maybe...Instead of continuing with what we’d been doing (building up and exploring stuff together), we started to go in the other direction.
Intimacy started to fade from our relationship in almost every form: if I would be holding his hand in public he’d make me stop and say it made him felt uncomfortable, if I was what he considered to be too affectionate he’d want me to stop or ‘calm down’ ect, he wouldn’t want to kiss me at all in public and hardly in private. Being pushed away for basic things like trying to hold his hand hurt, and my brain started to just overthink everything!

But, the effect in the bedroom was a lot worse! Intimacy went from a regular thing to something that was few and far between. He never, ever initiated or offered or showed interest, and since I had to be the person to do this, I was being turned down 95% off the time. A variety of excuses of course: I’m not in the mood, I’m too tired, we’ll do it tomorrow or later (but actually wouldn’t) ect. He’d also push my hand away if I tried to put my hands on his body, and stuff like that.
When he actually wanted intimacy, it was completely focused around his kink, and he didn’t want to do anything else, making me feel like he didn’t really want me... he just wanted...’that’. But now even that has stopped, and he doesn’t even want that now.
He’s said stuff to me like ‘there’s nothing nice or intimate about fingering’ for example, and multiple comments like that combined with his very strong desire to involve his kink have made me think he could be a-sexual...I am his first partner after all.. :(

This has had a serious, serious effect on me. It’s hurting my self esteem, my body image, my mental health and more. I’m sure some people here understand, but to have the person you love putting you down for being affectionate, pushing you away if you try to be sexual, and constantly delaying promised intimacy until it never happened...it really does hurt to have that happen so consistently. It’s making me feel ugly, un-loved, un-wanted and more.

I’ve tried different avenues. I’ve never ever forced sex on him, for me that’s not fun at all. I’ve always politely asked, and tried to be understanding when he says no. I’ve tried talking to him a few times, very calmly and gently because I know it’s a sensitive subject, and tried to explain to him that the rejection is getting to me, and that isn’t okay. Each time he’d say he understands, and each time id be let down: the most I’d actually get would be one intimate act that night, usually focused around his kink, and then back to normal...and sometimes nothing would change at all.
I’ve talked to him so, so many times, again never being forceful and leaving time between conversations, but always the same result: nothing.
I’ve also tried ‘not caring’... trying not to care about our lack of intimacy and focus on the good things. But I can’t. I need that in a relationship... I need to feel love and affection from a partner... and I really don’t think that’s too much to ask.

And that brings me to where I am now. I can’t actually remember the last time we had ‘fun’ together because it’s been so long, and I’d also like to reiterate that we’ve never actually had sex despite being together for a year and a half.
I’ve seriously started to loose desire for him, because at this point, he’s turned me away so many times. I’m not even sure if... I’m still attracted to him in the same way...it’s confusing right now. When I think of intimacy, I think of consensual pleasure between two people who love each other... but when I think of it with him I just think of him making excuses, him pushing my hand away from him, and the fact he doesn’t seem attracted to me. I said this to him, that it’s got to the point where I’m actually loosing physical interest in him, and he seemed really upset. He tried to explain that sex isn’t easy for him, and that he’ll try, but to be honest I’m not sure I even believe him at this point no matter how upset he seemed. I’m scared it’s too little too late, I don’t feel that same flare for him that I did, and I really don’t want it to be gone!

I do also want to say that I know a relationship isn’t all about sex, but to me showing intimacy and love (one of the ways you can show this is through sex) is important, and necessary, and I haven’t been getting that. I’ve stayed completely faithful, despite actually having people ask me out, despite having people actually offer me sex, and despite my ex surprisingly offering himself ‘on the side’, I’ve stayed faithful to him. Whilst this post may paint a negative light of him, I do love him like I’ve never loved anyone else, and I really don’t want to loose him. But...I’m starting to not even feel attracted to him anymore, and the pain all this is causing me... I’m not sure how much longer I can take it...

Any advice or comments are really appreciated! Thank you for reading, have a nice day :)

OP posts:
winecigsandchoc · 26/03/2019 18:32

Holy crap you're 19! He's only turned on by his kink.... whatever that is.

Life is too short for this. His whole sexual life is fuelled by this kink. You can't make him happy sexually unless it's all about this kink.

Wtf is it?!?! @NeedingHelp811 ?

Raspberrytruffle · 26/03/2019 18:33

Op you are so young, you are not compatible. Don't get tied to this for the next 10 years go out and enjoy yourself with someone who is mentally and physically compatible

ooItsAoBeautifulDayNow · 26/03/2019 18:51

You aren't sexually compatible, it doesn't mean either of you are right or wrong.

For you, sex is about intimacy and connection as well as pleasure.

He doesn't see it that way and IMO will never "satisfy" your needs because it's the intimacy you crave above all - people who aren't physically affectionate are wired that way, just as you (and I!) are wired to feel physical affection is a need rather than a want.

You're both so young and I'm sure both lovely people but you simply aren't sexually compatible and that's almost impossible to combat without one or both of you being unhappy in the long term.

NeedingHelp811 · 26/03/2019 19:04

Hi everyone.

Thanks for all your words of support and advice, it really means a lot!

I see what you’re all saying, and leaving him is something I’ve been considering for a little while. But I do genuinely feel for him, he’s not in the best place right now, and not sure he needs me walking out on him to add to that. So I feel a little stuck, in a way. But I also feel like he is worth the effort, and worth trying for.

But this is really getting to me :/ I wish things could go back to how they were wary on...
Do you think it would be a good idea to ask for a commitment from him? Ask him to prove to me he can change and love me? Or any other words of advice?
Thanks :)

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MollysLips · 26/03/2019 19:07

Why would you want to commit to a relationship with a man who consistently rejects you, to the extent you've got issues about your body and your confidence?

Mookatron · 26/03/2019 19:08

NeedingHelp811 I think you knew what the answers would be when you came on here asking. Part of the reason you did that was to get the exact advice you've been given, because you know it's right. You don't have to save him or improve him. You can be his friend if you want. But honestly fucking should be about fun at 19.

ooItsAoBeautifulDayNow · 26/03/2019 19:13

OP you sound really lovely but this sentence actually makes me want to cry:

Ask him to prove to me he can change and love me?

It really shouldn't be so hard - you said yourself it's crushing your self esteem, what an awful thing to think you deserve :(

zippey · 26/03/2019 19:32

If you love someone you shouldn’t want to change them. Love them for who they are.

This relationship isn’t going to get any better.

And he is gay.

SpanishTiles · 26/03/2019 19:41

Please tell us this kink.

Also, have you ever actually had full penis in vagina sex with him?

I was 19 once...please take the good advice offered here. You deserve so, so much more. Sad

category12 · 26/03/2019 19:41

God no, don't ask him for a commitment.

Don't stay with him out of concern for his MH (what about yours?!)

Don't ask him to change - why should he have to change who he is? See him as he is, not as he could be. He's a guy who isn't interested in sex other than his kink.

You're not a therapist, you can't "fix" him - he may not even want to be "fixed".

Love isn't enough, it doesn't outweigh foundation-deep incompatibility, it doesn't conquer all. It's not even worth that much, especially when it's not reciprocated. You can and will love again.

SkinnyPete · 26/03/2019 19:45

@NeedingHelp811

We're only trying to spare you the time and give you some wisdom from much older people than you that have made the mistake of trying to cling on to stuff like this.

Please ditch this guy and go enjoy yourself, despite how you feel about him. Or at least get wise to it quickly.

PicsInRed · 26/03/2019 19:50

OP, dont sacrifice yourself on his alter of denial and self destruction.

Your love can't save him. Save yourself.

mummmy2017 · 26/03/2019 19:51

Please understand it is the image of what he could have been you love, not the man he is.
Look around at your friends, do they have to work do hard at relationships?
Maybe you can tell him you want to drop the romance and go back to being friends...

Senseiwu · 26/03/2019 19:52

"Do you think it would be a good idea to ask for a commitment from him? Ask him to prove to me he can change and love me?"
Absolutely categorically NOT.

Or any other words of advice?
Break up with him and go have some fun. Be his friend if you must (although he isn't being yours).

Closetbeanmuncher · 26/03/2019 19:56

Racking my brain trying to think what this kink is, can you give further information op?

Closetbeanmuncher · 26/03/2019 19:56

Also peeps liking a pinkie in the starfish doesn't make someone gay 😂

wotsittoyou · 26/03/2019 19:59

Please do not think that there is anything you can say, do, or ask for, that will magically change this person into somebody who responds to you in the way that you need him to. I'm sorry, but there is nothing you can do. You can either accept that this is how you will be treated, or you can leave him and find somebody who can meet your needs.

wotsittoyou · 26/03/2019 20:00

Hint: do the latter.

Singlenotsingle · 26/03/2019 20:04

Ah well, if you don't want to leave him now, then you'll leave him later won't you?

Unless of course you don't mind living this agonising, frustrating, pointless life for the NEXT SIXTY YEARS?! What a waste!

Ploppymoodypants · 26/03/2019 20:08

Hey OP, I can completely understand where you are coming from. You love your partner and want to be supportive and caring. BUT you are so young (lucky you) and part of growing up and having serious adult relationships is about learning what is and isn’t good in a relationship. Walking away will be hard, but you will get over it. And you will also learn an important lesson about your own strength of character which will stand you in good stead. At 19 you should be doing it all the time and it should be totally electrifying at least at the start.
Good luck

JuniperNarni · 26/03/2019 20:08

I've been in a relationship that wasn't sexually compatible at all, I tried and tried for ages, like you I ended up with terrible self esteem and it's taken me a very, very long time to repair it.
Run away as quick and as far as you can and don't look back, you'll be much, much happier for it.

AnyFucker · 26/03/2019 20:11

Op...are you male or female ?

Brandnewshit · 26/03/2019 20:15

Ok please don't let this situation eat away at your self esteem.
You have your whole life ahead of you.
It's not you, it's him. Your not compatible

LumpyPillow · 26/03/2019 20:24

He's not going to change. There is no fairytale prove his love for you solution. If someone needs to prove their love to you there is something very very wrong. It never ever has to be that difficult if you are in a truly happy, healthy relationship. Also that you are going to ask him to do this when he should be volunteeting this if anything.

Loving someone really does become redundant and irrelevant if they don't love you, cant show you love or affection, touch you, want to do nice things for you, communicate with you or make you happy.

He sounds like a very complicated person, his mental state and life are likely to not change for the better, so are you happy to wait for a long time, unhappy and unfulfilled until he finally feels better so you can leave him? Seriously. You sound lovely, accomodating and kind. Be the same for yourself and leave this person.

NeedingHelp811 · 26/03/2019 22:58

Hey everyone. Again, thanks for your responses!

I don’t feel it’s very respectful to share his kink here. It’s his business and not my place to say. I can answer some questions on it, if people are interested.

The overwhelming majority seems to think I should leave him. I’m scared to do that, he’s a massive part of my life, and we do have... fun together... and I feel strongly for him in a sense he’s a person I don’t know how to live without right now. But being with him, feeling rejected and... everything mentioned in the OP, just ends up causing me pain regardless
I’m so lost... :(

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