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I’m so angry with DH and I need to get past it.

143 replies

AIBUtopickanyoldname · 06/03/2019 22:05

DH and I together for ten years. He has a daughter from a previous marriage. His ex decided to get a job with very unsociable and unpredictable hours and expected DH to pick up a lot of her slack with DSD, which DH then passed on to me because he was busy with his own work and I was freelance. It caused a lot of arguments and resentment. I felt that having to provide ad hoc childcare for him and his ex was holding my own career progression back. If I ever complained I was accused of not wanting DSD around and being annoyed because it meant she was at ours more often. He refused to acknowledge the imbalance or unfairness. It’s still a very sore point. Even more so because of the reason for this post.

About five years ago I was working for a company on a six month contract. DSD was with her mum for her half of the week and DH was working as normal. DH’s ex suddenly had a job on which meant she couldn’t attend a school event of DSD’s. DH guilted me into going to the event so that DSD would have someone there in the audience - against my better judgement I went, even though I was supposed to be working too. While I was waiting for the event to start I had to do a client call. I tried to find somewhere quiet to do the call but even so, it was obvious from the background noise that I wasn’t in the office when I was supposed to have been. The client complained to the company I was working for. I stayed until the end of my contract but they didn’t renew it and they never asked me back. I was annoyed at the time but DH just brushed it off as ‘oh they’re wankwrs, if they can’t deal with you working flexibly then fuck them’ kind of attitude. A standard which, hypocritically, he didn’t hold his ex’s or his own employers to.

Anyway, it’s happened again. I’ve got in trouble at work because I had to leave early at very short notice to go and sort out another DH domestic fuck up. This time he’d returned from a long haul business trip abroad and didn’t have his deadlock key. So I had to do an hour’s round trip to go and let him in. Again, someone complained about it. There haven’t been any further consequences but still, professionally, it makes me look really shit.

I was thinking back and asking myself why, both times, I didn’t just put my foot down and say an unequivocal ‘no’. And to my horror I realised that it was because I was scared of his reaction. He is a stonewaller. He never raises his voice and is not generally confrontational but his weapon of choice is a three-day stony silence and sulk.

I realise now that the reason I sabotaged my own work both times was because I was trying to avoid an unbearable atmosphere at home. The first time because he would’ve interpreted my not going to DSD’s event as ‘resenting DSD’. And the second time because technically I should have remembered he left for his trip without his deadlock key so I shouldn’t have deadlocked the door.

When I think of it like that, and when I see it written down, he sounds like an emotional abuser. But I am really struggling to square that with how he is the rest of the time. If you met him, he’s that classic sort of person who you’d say was a really nice bloke. He’s humble, he’s friendly, he’s generous, he’s kind - but he’s also stubborn and can be selfish and is prone to a sulk. But I don’t feel ‘afraid’ of him I do also recognise that I put myself at a disadvantage just because I couldn’t be arsed with a three day stand off.

What’s going on? Can anyone help me unpick it? He was genuinely remorseful when I told him about the recent complaint at work and I didn’t hold back in giving him both barrels. He’s sucking up and trying to be the perfect DH at the moment but I am the level of angry where I actually feel icy numbness. I’m scared at how detached I feel. I’m livid that this has happened twice now. And yet he will bend over backwards and move mountains to make sure his ex can work when she need to, because ‘it means extra time with DSD’.

I honestly don’t know what I need to do, or what he needs to do, or what needs to happen next to move past it. I don’t want to feel like this, it’s horrible. I want to get over it and forgive him but I don’t feel able.

OP posts:
Morgan12 · 07/03/2019 07:29

I think it's your turn to play the 'I'm leaving' card and see how he reacts.

The whole situation is so unfair to you. It's not right.

Babygrey7 · 07/03/2019 07:39

Justified anger in this kind of situation can be empowering

It's a good sign you are going to stand up for yourself more

ElloBrian · 07/03/2019 07:49

Hi OP. I think if I was in your position what I decided to do would very much depend on his reaction. As other posters have suggested, I would sit him down and say I needed to talk to him. I would lay t out - the problem at work, the fact that you’re being penalised for being so available to fill in the gaps he leaves in his DD’s care, the fact that it can’t go on. That you want to build up your career and put more effort in that direction, and that means you won’t be as available to pick up his and his ex’s slack anymore. That you’ll need him to make more of an effort with your own joint kids as well, and to support you more.

And then I would sit back and see how he reacts. If it’s a flounce, or he only listens to the bits that involve criticising him, and he shows no sign of appreciating your wishes and desires and aspirations, then you’ve got your answer - you would be wasting your time to continue in the relationship because nothing will change.

GlorianaCervixia · 07/03/2019 07:50

Is it the fear that he may leave and replace you if you stand your ground that’s holding you back? And that it would mean that he never really valued you for who you are, just what you could do for him?

If you are determined to stay in the relationship there are two options:
Continue as you are which would make him happy but you unhappy.
Or put reasonable boundaries around your work time and enforce them rigorously. Practice saying “that doesn’t work for me” and mean it. Ignore attempts to manipulate you and his sulks. It will be uncomfortable for both of you for a while and he will have to decide if he is willing to change or if he goes. It’s worth trying. You matter too.

AuntieCJ · 07/03/2019 08:03

Ignore the traditional MN stepmum bashing OP. Some people seem to have vivid imaginations and are making it up as they go along.

You are right to resent him. I would tell him how you are feeling - distanced from him and thinking about ending your marriage. If that doesn't wake him up boot him out and let him take on all the child care for DSD.

LizzieSiddal · 07/03/2019 08:05

OP I think you should write a list of all the things you do for ALL three children.

Then write one for all the things your H does.

You don’t even have to show him but it will just explain and prove, why you’re feeling so resentful.

He’s basically just taking advantage of you and treating you and your career as second best.

eggsandwich · 07/03/2019 08:07

I think he knows he’s taking the piss with his constant demands and expectations of you to see to his dd so the only way he can get you to do what he should be doing is to bring out the old “resenting dsd” card because you are to busy to see to her needs.

All the old rubbish about wanting his dd at home with him, well if he wants that then he needs to take some responsibility as a parent for his own daughter, I’m sure she would rather her father did some of the jobs you do and even though your a great step mum at the end of the day your not her parent and I think he needs to be reminded of that.

ReanimatedSGB · 07/03/2019 08:22

I bet your DSD's mum also suffers from his manipulative selfish behaviour, along with you and the DSD. He will be telling the mum stuff to make her resent you, and messing about with contact times to inconvenience her - though she may have seen through his bullshit sufficiently to be relatively safe.

GirlRaisedInTheSouth · 07/03/2019 08:35

I do the lion’s share of all school and nursery runs and all the household shit work because he is out of the house from 7.30-8 every day.

Given that he is out of the house 12.5 hours per day, how on earth do PP’s suggest he helps more with childcare?

LizzieSiddal · 07/03/2019 08:51

Given that he is out of the house 12.5 hours per day, how on earth do PP’s suggest he helps more with childcare?

He makes darn sure he has things in place so that his wife isn’t the one who has to drop everything, as soon as there is a childcare issue with his daughter.

This isn’t the OPs problem. It should be sorted between the parents of the child. The OP also works full time and has two dc of her own.

netflixoriginal · 07/03/2019 09:01

He does the same thing that she does and alters his hours to be around for the kids that he made.

lifebegins50 · 07/03/2019 09:47

barryfromclareisfit and msdog have nailed it.

It takes years to wake up to covert narcissism. From the outside people will see this charming man who is doing a great job parenting but the reality is he is completely self centred and focused on his own needs. His daughter is an accessory, someone that he can use to show he is father of the year plus he can have one over on the Ex.
All he needs is his wife to facilitate his little set-up as she isn't allowed her own needs.
If she complies he will be lovely and kind to her..if she doesn't he will use silent treatment to get her back into line.

Op, get yourself to counselling, read "the verbally abusive relationship" by Patricia Evans, it will explain what is going on. Look at covert narcissism on YouTube.

Start a journal of what happens when you try to have boundaries and needs.
If he is narcisstic don't tell him you are planning to leave, do your research and have legal lined up. I stupidly thought Ex would be reasonable if I was upfront, it just allowed him to plan a vicious legal campaign whilst I assumed we were being amicable.

It took me a few years from the lightbulb moment to leaving as it's hard to believe you have been so manipulated and used for years.

Mmmhmmm · 07/03/2019 12:28

"If he were ever to recognise my point of view, it would mean him having to admit he has been wrong and selfish and entitled in the past. And I think he’d rather let our relationship suffer the unresolved argument than ever concede my point."

This is why the relationship cannot be saved. It's just a matter of how many more years of your life are you willing to waste on someone who doesn't respect, value, or love you beyond what they can use you for.

Walkacrossthesand · 07/03/2019 12:45

I think a point/argument made up thread is a good one - to look at it from the DCs viewpoint, and point out to him that the current setup will leave them with childhood memories of him never being there. So it's not that you resent DSD - you feel he should be a larger part of all their childhoods, and by you continually stepping up, that isn't happening. Put it back on him.

category12 · 07/03/2019 13:55

Yes, he may be "winning" vs his ex-wife in having his dd at home more, but his dd won't see it that way. However great a stepmum you are, you turning up at her events is a poor substitute for her actual parent. She'll remember you with fondness, but feel ignored by her parents. A damaging feeling.

LizzieSiddal · 07/03/2019 15:37

However great a stepmum you are, you turning up at her events is a poor substitute for her actual parent. She'll remember you with fondness, but feel ignored by her parents. A damaging feeling.

I agree with this so much. From personal experience, it was my step mum who turned up for things, however much that was good of her, I just wanted my mum or dad.
And if my step mum hadn't turned up, or taken me to the Drs/shopping/cooked for me, one of my actual parents would have had to step up and do it.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 08/03/2019 08:21

Interesting end comment there Lizzie - do you have any negative feelings towards your stepmum for doing those things for you because it let your parents off the hook? Or are you just grateful that someone put themselves out for you?
(genuine query, not trying to be goady at all)

ciderhouserules · 08/03/2019 09:13

I think in your place, Lizzie, I'd feel that if step-mum was able to do it - why couldn't dad/mum?

I think I'd feel that I couldn't feel 'annoyed' at step-mum, or at parent(s). If no-one had turned up, I'd be quite validated in being angry at parent(s), whereas if step-mum did it, I couldn't have any annoyance at all. (that makes no sense - I'm trying to say I would feel ' not be allowed to be angry' at the parent(s) lack of trying, when one of them had 'got' step-mum to do it for them. I am also talking as someone whose parent did the bare minimum of parenting, so I was/should have been happy and grateful for what they did do)

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