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I’m so angry with DH and I need to get past it.

143 replies

AIBUtopickanyoldname · 06/03/2019 22:05

DH and I together for ten years. He has a daughter from a previous marriage. His ex decided to get a job with very unsociable and unpredictable hours and expected DH to pick up a lot of her slack with DSD, which DH then passed on to me because he was busy with his own work and I was freelance. It caused a lot of arguments and resentment. I felt that having to provide ad hoc childcare for him and his ex was holding my own career progression back. If I ever complained I was accused of not wanting DSD around and being annoyed because it meant she was at ours more often. He refused to acknowledge the imbalance or unfairness. It’s still a very sore point. Even more so because of the reason for this post.

About five years ago I was working for a company on a six month contract. DSD was with her mum for her half of the week and DH was working as normal. DH’s ex suddenly had a job on which meant she couldn’t attend a school event of DSD’s. DH guilted me into going to the event so that DSD would have someone there in the audience - against my better judgement I went, even though I was supposed to be working too. While I was waiting for the event to start I had to do a client call. I tried to find somewhere quiet to do the call but even so, it was obvious from the background noise that I wasn’t in the office when I was supposed to have been. The client complained to the company I was working for. I stayed until the end of my contract but they didn’t renew it and they never asked me back. I was annoyed at the time but DH just brushed it off as ‘oh they’re wankwrs, if they can’t deal with you working flexibly then fuck them’ kind of attitude. A standard which, hypocritically, he didn’t hold his ex’s or his own employers to.

Anyway, it’s happened again. I’ve got in trouble at work because I had to leave early at very short notice to go and sort out another DH domestic fuck up. This time he’d returned from a long haul business trip abroad and didn’t have his deadlock key. So I had to do an hour’s round trip to go and let him in. Again, someone complained about it. There haven’t been any further consequences but still, professionally, it makes me look really shit.

I was thinking back and asking myself why, both times, I didn’t just put my foot down and say an unequivocal ‘no’. And to my horror I realised that it was because I was scared of his reaction. He is a stonewaller. He never raises his voice and is not generally confrontational but his weapon of choice is a three-day stony silence and sulk.

I realise now that the reason I sabotaged my own work both times was because I was trying to avoid an unbearable atmosphere at home. The first time because he would’ve interpreted my not going to DSD’s event as ‘resenting DSD’. And the second time because technically I should have remembered he left for his trip without his deadlock key so I shouldn’t have deadlocked the door.

When I think of it like that, and when I see it written down, he sounds like an emotional abuser. But I am really struggling to square that with how he is the rest of the time. If you met him, he’s that classic sort of person who you’d say was a really nice bloke. He’s humble, he’s friendly, he’s generous, he’s kind - but he’s also stubborn and can be selfish and is prone to a sulk. But I don’t feel ‘afraid’ of him I do also recognise that I put myself at a disadvantage just because I couldn’t be arsed with a three day stand off.

What’s going on? Can anyone help me unpick it? He was genuinely remorseful when I told him about the recent complaint at work and I didn’t hold back in giving him both barrels. He’s sucking up and trying to be the perfect DH at the moment but I am the level of angry where I actually feel icy numbness. I’m scared at how detached I feel. I’m livid that this has happened twice now. And yet he will bend over backwards and move mountains to make sure his ex can work when she need to, because ‘it means extra time with DSD’.

I honestly don’t know what I need to do, or what he needs to do, or what needs to happen next to move past it. I don’t want to feel like this, it’s horrible. I want to get over it and forgive him but I don’t feel able.

OP posts:
7yo7yo · 06/03/2019 23:14

You do realise that your own important to him because you facilitate his life?
What does he actually bring to your life? What’s the purpose of him?

mrsmuddlepies · 06/03/2019 23:14

I agree with Winnie. Perhaps you need to make more effort to see your DSD as part of your family and not just an appendage. You don't sound as if you like her much.

AIBUtopickanyoldname · 06/03/2019 23:16

Some posters are getting the wrong impression about the DSD aspect. Precisely because of how the last ten years have gone, the net effect has been that DH is essentially the RP. When you look at the whole decade, DSD has on balance loved with us far more than she has with her mum. As a result she is very much a part of our family and is very close to her siblings.

My issue is and always has been the double standard and hypocrisy around what’s acceptable re the ex’s career and leisure time vs my own. DSD has always been DH’s defence to shut down any reasonable discussion about the amount he allows his ex’s personal life and work to encroach on our family life.

OP posts:
BrinkPink · 06/03/2019 23:16

Remember this man might not have met a new partner. Then what? He and his ex would have had to step up and be there when they had to be there. And if it affected their careers, well that's part of having a child. It certainly shouldn't affect her stepmother's career more - and as for being guilted about not wanting to step in by being told you resent the DSD, that is just breathtakingly manipulative. Right back at him. Does he resent his own DD and that's why he won't be there when needed?

Redskyandrainbows67 · 06/03/2019 23:16

So my summary would be

  1. include dsd more
  2. Push him to do more childcare (of all the kids not just dsd) and support your career more
MumUnderTheMoon · 06/03/2019 23:18

The crux of the issue is that twice in the last 5 years your generally lovely dh has asked you to do something for him which has caused you problems at work because you wouldn't tell him no. You didn't say no because you didn't want to put up with a three day sulk but you are now so angry with him that you feel and icy detachment. How is the icy detachment playing out? Could he be interpreting it as a sulk. Surely it would be easier to just say no and mean it and if he wants to be sulky for a couple of days then let him. If you don't feel threatened by/ scared of him then I'm not sure that it rises to the level of emotional abuse. If it does then it does rise to that level if he knows that's how you feel and uses it against you. I have been accused of being sulky it's usually because I'm angry but I know I'll get over it and I don't want to argue about something that doesn't really matter because I'll probably say something I don't mean and it'll make it worse.

Redskyandrainbows67 · 06/03/2019 23:18

Close to her siblings but not to you...!

k1233 · 06/03/2019 23:19

He is taking the piss. He can leave work go to her play etc I'd start working on a standard response, "I'm sorry I can't leave work, I'm about to go into a meeting" for any non emergency calls requesting you to leave work - including to let him in the house. He could have travelled to you for keys for instead of making you go to him.

If he sulks, point it out - why are you sulking?

I'm sure you don't exclude your step daughter and it sounds like you do a lot with and for her. He needs to step up to his responsibility and if there is an unplanned demand for childcare, he can call off work do it himself. Again you can't stay home because you have something important at work to do that has to be done today.

AIBUtopickanyoldname · 06/03/2019 23:20

I’m ruminating on all this past history stuff now because of the bloody key incident, which actually wasn’t anything to do with his ex.

But it made me remember the school event thing, which actually happened within a year of him threatening to leave when I was pregnant, and so I was desperate to prove I didn’t resent DSD in case he did leave.

I look back now and feel so mad and manipulated.

OP posts:
pallisers · 06/03/2019 23:20

I agree with Winnie. Perhaps you need to make more effort to see your DSD as part of your family and not just an appendage. You don't sound as if you like her much.

Really? I don't get that at all. She hasn't said anything at all about her dsd. She has gone to events which the girl's actual parents couldn't be arsed to go to. She has minded her when the parents were busy - although she was busy too. hasn't said one word about her but someone you think she doesn't like her?

Do you think she doesn't like her own children either - since she also mentioned that her dh is a freeloading fucker with them too (my words not hers - she is nice)

I do love that a woman posts about feeling taken for granted about all she has had to do for her dsd that her husband doesn't appreciate at all and she is told "do more".

BrinkPink · 06/03/2019 23:21

You don't sound as if you like her much.

And that's presented as if it's the ultimate shocking failure by OP. I don't think it sounds like that at all, but it's totally beside the point. The implication is that OP as a stepmother has to do everything for her DSD and adore looking after her at any opportunity or else she's being nasty - the exact same manipulation practised by her DH.

pallisers · 06/03/2019 23:21

Close to her siblings but not to you...!

Where did the OP say this???

Redskyandrainbows67 · 06/03/2019 23:24

Pall - she said ‘as a result dsd is close to her siblings’ she didn’t mention herself which i thought an odd omission.
I’m with you she needs to push her oh to do more. But I think she also needs reevaluate her resentment of this innocent little girl

BrinkPink · 06/03/2019 23:25

*He said he didn’t want to be with someone who obviously resented his DD. Absolutely refused to listen to anything I had to say about being massively pregnant, severely anaemic, still working full time, knackered, etc.

I’ve never, ever forgotten how terrified I was when he said that.*

And yet if you think about it OP it's him who should be terrified, as he'd stand to lose his live-in free nanny if he did leave you, or indeed if you left him.

That incident alone would leave me with icy numbness rage, never mind the rest of it.

BrinkPink · 06/03/2019 23:27

It's not resentment of a little girl! it's resentment of her dad who has dumped all the childcare on her for 10 years and made her feel bad if she didn't always want to crap on her career to do it, while somehow failing to see the irony that he himself didn't want to do it!

WinnieFosterTether · 06/03/2019 23:29

Pallisters it's the words used around DSD eg exwife dumped DSD... He wanted to spend extra time with DSD but left no room for me
It sounds as though OP resented him putting his DD first. But his DD should have been coming before his gf.
I haven't said OP should pick up more slack. I think she's looking for people to blame for her poor boundaries and until she realises she can say 'no' and be firm then even if she leaves her DH, she's going to end up with the same problem in her next relationship.

Redskyandrainbows67 · 06/03/2019 23:31

Yet she’s not resenting him dumping all the childcare for their joint kids on her?

pallisers · 06/03/2019 23:31

what resentment of this innocent little girl (my guess is she is a teenager now btw)???

She resents her husband - she has stated it clearly. She has never said she resented her dsd. You are doing the same as her dh - you are equating any conversation about him doing his fair share and not relying on her as "resenting my daughter". It isn't the same thing at all. And this man has been skating on this guilt-trip for years for his own benefit.

Do you think she resents her own children because she is annoyed their dad does nothing?

Do you think she isn't close to her own children because she didn't mention that she was close to them too?

Redskyandrainbows67 · 06/03/2019 23:35

But that’s my point pall - why is she not on her complaining about him generally? Why has she differentiated his attitude to one child and not included complaints about his lack of childcare about the other children too. She should be complaining about him generally.

I agree with Winnie when they got together his dsd SHOULD have come before her

I also agree op you need to learn to say no

AIBUtopickanyoldname · 06/03/2019 23:35

et she’s not resenting him dumping all the childcare for their joint kids on her?

I do resent that!

OP posts:
Redskyandrainbows67 · 06/03/2019 23:36

But most of your complaint is about how he doesn’t take care of dsd not all three of your kids?

RomanyQueen1 · 06/03/2019 23:36

My God you sound like the nanny, put your foot down.
You aren't her parent, tell your dh to parent his own child or pay for childcare.

bosch · 06/03/2019 23:38

can I just clarify, when he rates 'spending more time with dsd' is it him or you spending more time with her...has he ever asked you if you want or 'need' to spend more time with her?

That's where I would start your conversation with him.

Mumsymumphy · 06/03/2019 23:40

He has you by the short n curlies because he can pull the 'oh you don't want her around' card.
Why are you jeopardising your job/career - why isn't he?
Play him at his own game!

pallisers · 06/03/2019 23:41

She IS complaining about him generally!

Oh and we have our own DCs too now and predictably I do the lion’s share of all school and nursery runs and all the household shit work because he is out of the house from 7.30-8 every day.

Her second post in its entirety.

And come on. despite the belief on MN that step parents should love and sacrifice for step children as if they were their own on but not discipline or voice an opinion otherwise, it IS different when you find yourself sacrificing your career for your step child because neither of her actual parents will do so.

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