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My partner isn’t telling his adult daughter about our relationship

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Juneburg · 22/02/2019 11:35

My partner and I have been together for two years and living together for just over one year. There is a slight age gap of 14 years and he has two children (18and 23) from his previous relationship.

He has told the son he is ‘seeing someone’ but has yet to tell the daughter.

My partner has said for several months that he will speak to his daughter, but she keeps cancelling plans and he ‘bottles’ out when he does get the opportunity. The relationship between them is complicated, from what I understand this is due to the ongoing conflict he and his ex had during their relationship, the family set up was mum and daughter v dad and son.

I have tried to support my partner as best I can, he has been told by friends and family that his daughter has been ‘slagging’ him off - telling people he is selfish and does not care for her. This couldn’t be further from the truth, he has made extreme sacrifices for her and maintains regular contact despite often being met with rude and uninterested responses. She constantly cancels plans for them to meet up and makes it difficult to rearrange.

Unfortunately, him not telling her is causing tension in our relationship.

His family remain very loyal to his ex-partner, inviting her to family meals, events and have said that they will not meet me until either he tells his ex-partner of our relationship or he tells the children. Some family members have even threatened to tell the ex/daughter if he doesn’t do it. He has no intention of discussing our relationship with the ex.

Because of this, I have started to feel quite isolated. I have only met his dad and one friend in the space of two years. And in turn, he is isolating himself. We cannot attend family events together, we cannot go to meals or parties. He goes alone or not at all.

Invitations are never extended to me, even if the children/his ex is not attending.

We are not able to visit the town where his family/friends live in fear we will be spotted by someone who would then relay information.

And then, you have the very minor things that ‘normal couples’ would do. We cannot have profile pictures, be overly public with our relationship or go to certain places. He’s reluctant to even change his profile pictures of photos I have taken of him in case someone asks where or who took it.

I do to an extent feel like a dirty secret.

It feels as if we have separate lives. He has ‘his’ life with his family and friends, and then there is ‘my’ life with him, it is not ‘our’ life. I do not have children or a large social circle due to moving to the area very late on in my life.

My partner has promised me for several months now that he will deal with this, he says he knows he has to because it isn’t fair on me or healthy for our relationship. I understand why he is perhaps nervous or worried of the reaction of his daughter, so I have tried my hardest to remain impartial and not allow the feelings of isolation and separate lives impact us, but it is very difficult.

He will say ‘I promise in two weeks, I will tell them’, three weeks pass and then we are back on to the promises again.

We want to get married and have our own child, but we are prevented from moving forward in our relationship until he tells his daughter. Many of our achievements have been celebrated together and not with others and we would like to be able to get engaged with the support and excitement from others.

My other concern is that if this continues any longer, it won’t be seen as a mature decision on deciding if there is longevity in our relationship but will be seen as a lie and this will cause even more issues. Our relationship is very serious, we live together - I would be hurt if my own parents had not informed me of such a serious relationship that has spanned over two years.

He has also said he is going to start putting me first. I have told him I don’t want to be ‘first’. I don’t want to be in a competition with his children for first place, in my mind, they come first but also that I am taken in to consideration.

I am not entirely sure what advice I am looking for, but not being a parent myself, I can only relate based on assumptions of the situation. I really love this man and asides from this, our relationship is incredible - however, the tension is building. I believe he is not telling his daughter based on fear.

OP posts:
NotTheFordType · 04/03/2019 13:01

BTW I thought your suggestion of how to phrase his news positively was really good.

WhatWouldDavinaDo · 04/03/2019 13:05

The problem with tomorrow is that it never comes!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/03/2019 13:06

Well done on rebutting the unfounded excuse and well done again for the considered suggestions; your thoughts on the matter are absolutely spot on

His comment that it's "given him encouragement" is positive at face value, but I'm sure you know it's just words. So for that matter was the predictable excuse around having "a lot on", since there's always something happening if a get-out is what's being looked for

From your use of "by tomorrow" it sounds as if you're keeping to the week's notice and I can only hope you stick to this very firmly, otherwise he'll certainly know that you can be ignored with no consequences at all (while probably claiming a sudden migraine or whatever)

Overall, of course, relationships really shouldn't be like this, especially after so long - he should be proud and glad to spread the news about you both, and the fact he hasn't been would have seen me out of there long ago. My fingers are firmly crossed for a positive update though, and I wish you all the very best with it

FaithFrank · 04/03/2019 13:10

Very true about treating them like adults. You say he can't protect them from everything, but at this stage he should not be protecting them. I have a slightly older dd and I see my role more as love, support and advice, not protection. Yes, she is young, makes mistakes, does silly things, but it's her life and they are her decisions to make. It took a bit of effort to shift my perspective, but we have a lovely adult-adult relationship now.

Juneburg · 04/03/2019 13:19

He will be texting/calling today, so I’m allowing time for us to disgest her response, if there is one and hopefully there will be positive news tomorrow.

I have made a rod for my own back by not being forthright enough but he is aware I am not allowing any more delay after today.

I am just hoping we both get the response we want, or at least, the fallout isn’t that bad!

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SandyY2K · 04/03/2019 13:23

If he doesn't tell her, I would tell him to move into his dad's or anywhere else until he has done.

His response will really let you know where you stand with him.

another20 · 04/03/2019 13:52

Wow it does sound like you are doing all the work here and it’s like pushing water up hill. But you are closing in on him - so well done and good luck. Her response is irrelevant to your relationship though isn’t it? You cannot be held hostage to if or how she reacts. You are two adults - and I am assuming by the age of his DC - he would be mega keen to start his second family given his age.

So as I mentioned up thread - now make sure you have very firm deadlines and proof for each of the next steps and commitments.

  1. DD has been told.
  2. Family and friends immediately updated that DD has been told with a firm date for an informal meet in the next couple of weeks.
  3. Numerous trips into his town in the interim.
  4. A meet up with DS.
  5. An invitation to DD, DS and F&Fs to yours.
  6. Oversight of annual milestones and agreement as to what you will be doing together eg his DM birthday, mother’s day, Easter, bank holiday weekends, DS birthday, his birthday and you.

You can do steps 2-6 tomorrow!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/03/2019 14:50

he is aware I am not allowing any more delay after today

Well done again, Juneburg, but can I suggest gently that you make sure you're there when/if he does it?

Forgive my suspicion but I had this over exH calling a family member, only to find he claimed the call was made in the few minutes I popped out

It was a lie of course ...

Bananasinpyjamas11 · 04/03/2019 14:54

The issue is here that your DP cannot move on, and this will linger into your relationship for years, even after telling everyone. Can you cope with that? You will probably always be seen and treated as lesser, as this is how you’ve started off.

beanaseireann · 04/03/2019 15:30

Wishing you the best of luck OP

AdoreTheBeach · 04/03/2019 15:33

Very good advice from Another20.

Best of luck OP. hope he follows through.

gambaspilpil · 05/03/2019 09:24

So has he now sent the text?

Juneburg · 05/03/2019 09:37

Hi everyone!

Great news, he has done it! He sent a really nice text that was incredibly positive.

It’s noticeably been a weight lifted off his shoulder!

We are going to start making plans to see family/friends and get more involved with the family now!

Thank you everyone for all your help!

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IWannaSeeHowItEnds · 05/03/2019 09:59

I'm glad to hear that he finally did it.
Next step is to stop living in hiding. Put your photos on Facebook if you want and visit whichever town you please. Time to stop indulging this very unhealthy set up.
Admittedly I haven't rt whole ft but if it hasn't already been suggested, your dp could do with talking this through with someone who can help him adjust his behaviour towards his DD to a more normal footing.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 05/03/2019 10:25

Genuinely delighted for you, Juneburg; I'm sure this will be a huge weight off your mind too, and for more than the obvious reason

For this to go anywhere long term it's non-negotiable that his primary loyalty should be to you, and hopefully his is a major step in the right direction

I wish you both the greatest happiness going forward - and don't forget MN's always here if there's ever a wobble Flowers

beanaseireann · 05/03/2019 10:37

Great news Thanks

woolduvet · 05/03/2019 10:37

Fantastic. Onwards and upwards.

AdoreTheBeach · 05/03/2019 11:25

Such a relief for you - and him. Wishing every success going forward.

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