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Is she a gold digger?

104 replies

Sebsdad · 13/12/2018 17:52

I need some advice on my current situation. I’m a dad of one, my son lives with his mother. Shes a good mum and we get on well for the sake of our son.

Since we divorced five years ago, I hadn’t had a relationship with anyone. It was a very difficult breakup for me (she had an affair) and frankly I was a mess. I couldn’t even think about a new relationship for years.

A year ago, a woman I’ve been acquainted with for a few years through a hobby started coming to my local pub on a regular basis. We got chatting and started hanging out together, although I didn’t ask her out on a date because honestly I didn’t see her that way. For a start she’s considerably younger than me (mid 20s, I am late 30s) and as I said before, I simply wasn’t looking for a relationship.

One night we got drunk and she surprised me by saying what a lovely guy I was and that she’d been waiting for me to ask her out for ages. Since that night I started to see her differently and eventually did ask her out on a date.

That was almost a year ago and we’ve been going steady ever since. But I’m starting to get a few alarm bells. For example she has 3 young children (she had the first 2 in her late teens) and their father sees them once a month if that. She says he is a bad father not only with seeing them but paying maintenance. Every so often she breaks down and cries about how broke she is and that she can’t afford to support her children. And as a parent myself I can’t bear the thought of them wanting for food/clothes/heating, and I feel very protective of her too. After all she is my girlfriend and I want to take care of her and make her happy. So I give her money and take her shopping and all is well until the next time.

The thing is, I’m starting to get concerned that she only wants me because I can provide her and her children financial security. I’m not entirely sure that she’s not still hung up and sleeping with her ex, her children’s father when he sees the children. She was very much in love with him and I’m just not convinced that she feels the same way about me although she says she absolutely does and more.

I do care for her. But I’m getting cold feet about getting further involved. After all I have my own son to provide for and if I were to have another child with my girlfriend, I believe she would expect me to take on her other children as well.

I’m thinking of ending the relationship but am worried that I’m not giving her the benefit of the doubt by even wondering if she’s a gold digger. I feel terrible even writing that. I was genuinely completely smitten with her at first and I still think she’s very lovely. And I feel guilty even asking these questions.

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LuluBellaBlue · 13/12/2018 18:00

It’s a really tricky one and hard to say from what you’ve mentioned above as I can see both points of view.
If it were me, the only way to know would be next time not to step in financially and see what her reaction is.

Youmatter · 13/12/2018 18:06

Its tough to make that call and basically impossible for us to tell you.

You have said what you do for her in regards to money. What does she do for you?

Are you a tight unit. Is she emotionally supportive and good with your son? Does she want the best for you?

It does sound very much like you have cold feet regardless. Making this serious is a big leap for you. Only you can decide if it’s right or not

Sebsdad · 13/12/2018 18:07

Thanks LuluBellaBlue. That’s a good suggestion. I’m not sure I’d be comfortable doing that though to be honest. It’s happened enough times that it’s become part of the dynamic of our relationship and I think she’d be really hurt if I didn’t offer to help. She resisted for a very long time at first and was much too proud to accept my help but I reassured her that it’s not charity, that she’s my girlfriend and I love her. If I were to renege on that I think she will be very hurt and probably stop trusting me, with good reason.

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Sebsdad · 13/12/2018 18:10

Are you a tight unit. Is she emotionally supportive and good with your son? Does she want the best for you?

She absolutely does her best to be emotionally supportive of me and my son. But she has a huge amount on her own plate and so we don’t actually manage to see each other for very long at all. An hour a day max and often only twice a week.

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HollowTalk · 13/12/2018 18:10

What makes you think she's sleeping with her ex?

It sounds very suspect; I don't blame you for thinking she's a gold digger. If I were you, though, I'd save any spare money for your own child.

HollowTalk · 13/12/2018 18:11

You only see her for two hours a week and you're giving her money?!

But surely you could see her much more often, when your son isn't with you?

Youmatter · 13/12/2018 18:12

All this golddigger talk has that bloody song stuck in my head.

What’s your gut telling you? Really does sound like there’s a next step and you’re not sure about it

Emptyspace · 13/12/2018 18:13

What do you actually do together if you only see her for an hour at a time? It does sound like an odd set up.

ScreamingValenta · 13/12/2018 18:14

The real issue you have here is the lack of trust - your suspicion that your girlfriend is still sleeping with her ex. I think if you can address that, it will make it easier to decide about your long-term future.

Is she a gold-digger? Well, what does your girlfriend's general attitude tell you about her attitude to money? When she's complaining about her finances, does she mention any long-term plan to improve her situation? Does she work; or if she's looking after her young DC at the moment, does she plan to get a job once they are in nursery/school? Does she make an effort with her budgeting or does she just expect you to bail her out?

If you have a child together, you will end up having joint finances - think carefully about whether she's a person who you'd trust to use your household income wisely.

Consider these smaller questions and you will probably find your main question easier to answer.

Sebsdad · 13/12/2018 18:14

Sorry, that wasn’t very clear. We see each other regularly around an hour, two/three times a week. We also have an evening at the weekend when I pay for a babysitter and we spend quality time together.

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giftsonthebrain · 13/12/2018 18:16

It doesn’t sound like the two of you are a good match; different financial views and probably different extended family views (why are her family not stepping in). Probably different emotional commitment.
I might not use the term gold digger BUT you are probably a soft touch.

Youmatter · 13/12/2018 18:18

‘Quality time’😂😂😂

Look, are you a multimillionaire?

The likelyhood of this girl, seeking you out for your money is slim.

Sounds like neither of you had the balls at first and you finally got together and she’s in and out of money trouble.

But is she what you want? Forever.

Sebsdad · 13/12/2018 18:19

When she's complaining about her finances, does she mention any long-term plan to improve her situation? Does she work; or if she's looking after her young DC at the moment, does she plan to get a job once they are in nursery/school? Does she make an effort with her budgeting or does she just expect you to bail her out?

She does work part time but it’s a low income job although she’s quite resourceful and sells her belongings online as a sideline.

We’ve talked about when her children are older and she has said that she’ll go back to working full time. But meanwhile it’s hard for her as it is for any single parent juggling three small children.

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NotScrewingUpNow · 13/12/2018 18:19

Would you consider getting back with your ex wife for your son's sake?

Don't give another woman your money, you have a son- give that money to him.

And never get involved with a woman who has 3 children. That's crazy. She can see money written all over you.

Sebsdad · 13/12/2018 18:20

Definitely not a multimillionaire! I wish! But I do earn a higher than average salary which, I think in her eyes, is a lot.

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TeamSpirit · 13/12/2018 18:20

Why dont you spend more time together ?

NotScrewingUpNow · 13/12/2018 18:20

juggling three small children

How old is this woman? Roughly.

HollowTalk · 13/12/2018 18:22

He's already said she's mid twenties.

TeamSpirit · 13/12/2018 18:22

Notscrewingupnow - nice!!! Not!!

TwoBoysTooMany76 · 13/12/2018 18:23

Sebsdad I was going to write to ask if she is doing anything to improve her financial position? Or is she relying on you now to regularly bail her out? When I split up with my ex, my first thoughts were to secure my own financial situation and I went from PT to FT job and in the last 5.5 years since split, I have through hard work and perseverance, am now financially secure with a great job with prospects. I would never take money from another man except for my DC’s dad. Especially for my children.

But I wrote all the above and I think actually, you need to trust your instincts, the whole expectation from her of you bailing her out (and not reacting well if you don’t) is not good. Add that to your suspicion that she is sleeping with her ex, I would be very careful about getting in deeper. And I hate to say this but for goodness sake, do not leave the contraception decision to her! 😬

Youmatter · 13/12/2018 18:24

You’re saying about her being resourceful. She’s looked after herself and her kids before you, and still is I suppose. You don’t even live together.

It really does sound like you’re looking for a way out. So maybe before you start to nit pick or convince yourself she’s cheating. Imagine your life without her, if it’s even the slightest relief.. get rid so you can both move on.

HollowTalk · 13/12/2018 18:24

The way I would look at it is this. You're clearly a really decent guy who's gone through a horrible time with your divorce. You should try to only mix with other nice people, people who want what's best for you and who aren't using you. If you even suspect someone is using you, you should get away from them. I'd swerve this one and look around for someone new.

In any case if you lived together there would be four of them and one of you, when your child's not there - I would find that too unequal.

Vitalogy · 13/12/2018 18:25

Stop the money then you'll have the answer.

BollocksToBrexit · 13/12/2018 18:26

Taking on your partner's kids if you have a child together is not gold digging, it's pretty normal in a loving family. If you aren't prepared to do that then I don't think you should be with anyone with children.

Only seeing each other for an hour a couple of times a week is weird. What do you do? Just shag and hand over money?

giftsonthebrain · 13/12/2018 18:27

Selling stuff online! Huge red flag...where is this stuff coming from? Does she have other sympathetic listeners who “give” her gifts she then sells on??
Just walk away please

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