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Crossdressing Poll

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CrossdressingClare · 25/11/2018 07:15

Hi,

I came out to my wife 11 years ago. She didn't take it well and had an affair. I found out and was heart broken. I eventually forgave her and we moved on to have another children and a happier marriage.

She came to terms with my crossdressing allowing my to wear hold ups, heels and underwear in the bedroom. Im aware of how luck your I am tan does I can tell you how liberating it is.

She does make the occasional derogatory comment and I get it. She also thinks it extremely rare.

I'd like to know how many Crossdresser S there are out there, so I can gage how rare or populate crossdressing is.

Thanks for taking the time to read and take part.

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NothingOnTellyAgain · 28/11/2018 19:03

Eddie once said they aren't women's clothes they're mine - I bought them and "identified as" a transvestite. OK fine.

Eddie now says in fact he has always been transgender (TBF the "umbrella" includes transvestites as trans) and said something about girl parts of brain and boy parts and the girl parts are the ones that makes him like to paint his nails.

He also told a heartwarming story of how he chased 2 teenage girls out of a womens toilet years ago after they questioned him on WTF he was doing in there (changing from womens to mens clothes obviously he chose to do that in the ladies) - Eddie is quite a big man apparently though we were supposed to applaud him for scaring the shit out of two teenage girls who quite understandably asked him what exactly the fuck he was playing at.

Hurrah for eddie.

NottonightJosepheen · 28/11/2018 19:09

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NothingOnTellyAgain · 28/11/2018 19:22

I think they migth have laughed at him as well.

And we all know what mens and womens biggest fears are respectively, don't we.

PS Google has loads of stuff about has he had breast implants. It's always about tits isn't it. Men whetehr straight or gay seem to be obsessed with womens breasts it's weird.

Umbongointhejungle · 28/11/2018 19:30

@NothingOnTellyAgain
Exactly
No man ever decide to go for a double A cup when getting an implant, which btw they probably already are, unless they’re buff as fuck.

It’s all about the tits.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 28/11/2018 20:20

I saw a man on the high street the other day. Longish straggly hair like a old school rocker but not fabulous flowing locks but a bit ratty straggly. I was walking past and thougth what's the deal here he doesn't look metally. Funny expression on face - slightly smirky. Thought this fella is a bit odd, you know as you do in passing with the idle thoughts that flit through the head.

Glanced down - massive tits. No bra.

WTF this is the first time I have come across this IRL.

A girl that age would not leave the house with tits that size and no bra, and if she did, she would be mightily stared at followed etc. Maybe that was the aim? No fucking idea.

Not very PC probably but this fashion for men gettign plastic tits stuck on >>> feels kind of like a fetishy piss take.

Mind you I never liked drag really anyway and growing up in late 70s / early 80s there were men dressed as women taking the piss out of us / reducing us to 2D caricatures all over the place.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 28/11/2018 22:03

I've gone right off Eddie Izzard since I heard about that. What a total cunt.

Penny1976 · 28/11/2018 22:08

I have never (thank goodness) been with a cross-dresser but it would be a total turn off if discovered into a relationship that the man was into that. I like my men to be proper alpha men and have no interest in fetishes.

To be honest all the men I have seen dressed up in women's clothing look completely ridiculous and I couldn't take them seriously after that.

MrBuscuits · 29/11/2018 01:57

@NottonightJosephin I had no idea this incident with Eddie happened, chasing two girls out of a toilet... certainly shows a dark side to him and beside the not so funny, rambling comedy and the campaign to become London Mayor Hmm it puts things in a new light. Recent pictures of Eddie show him with boobs, which is a new addition to the wardrobe, but they look more prominent or should I say permanent than before. As this Trans stuff is very in vogue, and he has the funds to 'transform' his appearance (he was very much in "boy mode" pre 2015 Hmm ) he has encouraged others to step out there as these caricatures of women (how he tottered round west London in those heels with that tight skirt on the campaign trail for Labour surprised me - lets see him dressed like Theresa May visiting south London schools speaking out against knife crime if he gets the Mayor job as the first transgender candidate Grin ) but it seems an awful lot to do to ones self just to put on a skirt... That's put me off him now. I have seen the thread on AGP and guys who have this condition, having worn a kilt (though these are expensive) I get the comfort aspect of a skirt compared to having one's family jewels mashed up in trousers all day Grin but with fashion changing (all men's wear is now skinny fit and jeans resrmble jeggings of late Hmm ) and Zara is selling skirts for men, perhaps a more credible look is round the corner?

Most of the blokes look ridiculous but there is this odd Secretary look they go for, and the wigs do them no favour... the whole acting like a submissive woman willing to be humiliated thing is too much though. I assume most partners of such men may not speak out for fear of embarrassment and there's very few who would put up with it. For some guys there's varying degrees of dressing but I guess each to their own. If on hot days men chose skirts over shorts (in some cases not allowed shorts by their employers, but skirts accepted) but they are still regular blokes (like those builders did last summer) it's quite different to some of the stuff Ive read in this thread...

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MrBuscuits · 29/11/2018 01:58

Here are those builders, lol Grin

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1forAll74 · 29/11/2018 04:39

Yes I guess that you have to be,or should be honest about cross dressing,if you are with a partner. and not be having to do this secretly.
Unless you are into cross dressing, it's difficult to know why this has to be.

I personally could not deal with this in a relationship. but never would judge others on their choices in life.

bitheby · 29/11/2018 04:50

Briefly was in a relationship with a fetishistic cross dresser. Sex was ALL
about his needs which were all about his fetish.

I ended it very quickly.

Initially it was interesting and I am incredibly open minded but relationships have to be about give and take and he was too much take.

NB a sexual fantasy of his was going in to the changing rooms in a lingerie shop and being discovered by the female shop assistant. Oh no, it could never happen Hmm

MickHucknallspinkpancakes · 29/11/2018 07:36

@bitheby not only could it happen but as cross dressing comes under the trans umbrella guidelines now it probably will if the rules do get loosened.

Fancy forcing your fetish on an unsuspecting shop assistant. Sad

Katvonblackdeath · 29/11/2018 09:21

The trans umbrella bullshit as propagated by the likes of Stonewall has crossdressers as actually trans.
I'm thinking, based on my husband, that it's just a sexual kink (and lots of those AGP fantasies.. they do seem to share a theme). That's why the narrative that if these guys so wish they can enter into women's spaces is so stupid. For my husband it's a sexual fantasy, I don't doubt for other cross dressers the new world will be a kinky boon. My husband isn't a pervert though. Thankful for small mercies.

I don't find him sexy at all. But I really like him so I guess I put up with it. Well occasional stockings and stuff.

I deeply resent when he tells me how to be more feminine. I resent him wasting money on make-up and clothes, but he doesn't touch mine at least. I resent the weekend away when I was 8 months pregnant with my first, when he dressed up the whole weekend to " get it out of his system". Bitter lol.

I feel a deep sense of betrayal if I'm honest although a part of me tries to rationalise it.

What a mess eh?

MickHucknallspinkpancakes · 29/11/2018 09:43

So sorry @Katvonblackdeath Thanks

TinselAngel · 29/11/2018 09:43

That sounds awful Kat. I find it infuriating how men bully women into putting up with, or often facilitating, things aren't comfortable with. A lot of what you say is also very familiar.

Thanks

LoveStinx · 29/11/2018 18:55

@Katvonblackdeath I'm in a similar position. I adore my DH and enjoy seeing him happy and I don't see any harm in him dressing as a woman. It's purely for sexual pleasure and once it's out of his system, as it were, he can't get the clothes off quick enough. But it is a need that he can't do without and tbh sex is now mainly him dressing up. At first when I was younger I thought it was fun and I enjoyed how he liked the things I would wear. We even went shopping together and I enjoyed the thrill of how we would go around the shops secretly choosing for him. I am the only one who knows and this does bring a level of intimacy. I've known from the start. I think my willingness at first has kind of encouraged him more, now he can't really do without it. If I had a choice now I would prefer he didn't have this side to him but I'm willing to make this compromise to what is otherwise a 'perfect' marriage. I feel I can't deny him this especially as I have 'fed' his fantasies. It's like he's addicted to it and it would be impossible to suppress now.

Katvonblackdeath · 29/11/2018 19:33

Thanks all. It's good to hear other women's perspectives on this. FlowersGin

summertimeblues2 · 29/11/2018 21:02

I added to this thread right from the beginning (married 24 years and only found out at the end of our marriage that exDH was a CD who had been wearing my clothes for all those years in secret).
Since reading all the comments, I downloaded the book "Alice in Genderland" and tbh, although some comments cut me deeply, I do now understand how tricky it must be for CDers to go through a huge part of their lives, hiding a secret they feel society will disapprove of. It's an interesting read.
Having said that, as many posters have suggested, crossdressers seem to become more "all about me and my female side" during sex the more they are allowed to dress up... and less about "let me satisfy you".
I had sex once and once only with my exDH , dressed partly in female clothes, to try and save our marriage. I had never seen him so excited, so turned on, yet so disgusted by himself. For me, there was no pleasure and watching him with pointed, stockinged feet, lying on his back... has basically scarred me for life.
There's very little help for the wives who have been left behind, thinking WTF??!!!!

TheRhythmlessMan · 29/11/2018 21:29

Summer I hope you don't mind me asking was the cross dressing the main/sole reason for your divorce?

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Mummabearofthree · 16/01/2021 20:28

I’m so sorry she cheated, that must’ve been awful. Personally I wouldn’t be ok with it and I don’t know anyone that does it.

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Countrywalking · 16/01/2021 22:07

I like how you forgave her Hmm
Even though you have a sneaky fetish that you didn't tell her about.
I'd probably have an affair and then run for the hills.
All the fetish/misogynistic crap of cross dressing men...urgh it's such bullshit. I just can't respect or trust men who do this.

Fran856 · 16/01/2021 23:23

No I couldn’t / wouldn’t accept it , sorry