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My husband had an affair for 6 weeks now want to ends our marriage for good. I want him.

96 replies

Teddy77 · 02/10/2018 09:40

Last Monday I found out that my husband (who I still love as much as I did on our wedding day) of 10 years and partner of 15 years had an affair. He met her online, has only been chatting with her for 6 weeks, had sex once (apparently!) but tells me he is head over heels in love – a kind of love that he has never ever felt before (even for me!!), she is his soul mate and wants out of our apparent ‘loveless’ marriage ASAP. We have 3 young children under the age of 9 years old. He said I did not give him enough “physical attention” and that everything else was fine. We don’t fight and are actually a really good team when it comes to family life, our home and the kids. I never turned him down for sex but on the other hand I am not a naturally touchy/feely kind of person so I never initiated touch/sex either (my bad!!). But like I said I have always been like this, he knows this. He said he told me 3 times in 3 years ! that he would like more physical touch I would do it for a few days then revert back into my old/normal self/patterns (again v busy mother of 3 work full time etc. I barely remember what happened yesterday let alone 3 conversations in 3 years!!). If he had talked to me more about how he was feeling I would of 100% acted and made it right. But he never talked, never told me how unloved he felt hence I never knew. He is a great Dad and helpful husband so I thought we were happy. I have asked him to give “us” a chance but he blankly says NO, reason being he does not love anymore. I find it impossible to believe that all the love he has for me is completely gone. My theory is that because he is SO consumed by this new, exciting, mysterious love that he cannot find any love inside him for anyone else, not even his own kids. So after 5 days of this NO NO NO going on I kicked him out of the house and told him to take as much time and space as he needs to make a decision on the future. I asked him to stay away, no contact for 2 weeks. Before he left (knowing that he would not see me or kids for two weeks) he did not even take the time to spend time with them which I find bizarre and a little unnervey / scary. I am trying to keep my cool and not contact him but I miss and love him so much that it is killing me inside. I want to give US a try, I said even if he still decides to still LEAVE after giving it a GO at least I will know that we bought FOUGHT to keep our family/unit together. Only then will I be somewhat ok :-( to walk away…..Advice needed please, how to I play this I DESPERATELY want him back x

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Quartz2208 · 02/10/2018 12:24

Prawn really I read it as its all about him and his needs and how she should change - nothing about him or what he should do. If a marriage is not working its two people fault.

So what effort did he put in cos I suspect not much at all

HereIgoagainxx · 02/10/2018 13:29

The bottom line is his feelings have changed and he wants out. Of course he is entitled to do this. Having an affair was of course wrong (and incredibly hurtful) , but if he's determined to go then you can't stop him.

He was clearly looking elsewhere if he met so.eone online.

I'm so sorry, op. Of course you want to keep your family together, but this is not the man you married. He has clearly changed.

Get your friends around you and seek out legal advice. Take care x

BarbarianMum · 02/10/2018 13:43

He was wrong to cheat. But there is a limit to how many times you can ask your life partner to show you more affection without losing all self-respect. I reckon 3 is about right.

At the end of the day OP you're not sexually/emotionally compatible- you cant spend the rest of your life having sex you dont want and bring touchy-feely when you're not. So better you split.

flowerpot1000000 · 02/10/2018 13:59

OP so sorry for what is happening to you. Although you dont want to please, please get your ducks in a row. You have to now put it into perspective he is NOT the man you married, he is NOT your best friend, he WILL deceive you as he has done so already. There will be some wonderful advice on here from posters who know what they are talkign about and have been through this already so please keep posting.

But I can not stress to you enough the need to get all your stuff in order before it's too late and also a 30min free slot for a solicitor may be helpful and put things into perspective for you.

Eatmycheese · 02/10/2018 14:01

If I was with someone that I had loved enough to have children with then I wouldn’t have an affair because their passion or sexual reciprocity had dwindled.
I would first try and resolve the issue but if I couldn’t then I would decide whether I could continue in the situation or leave. BEFORE I started having sex or seeming out sex with another person.

People fall in and out of love
Feelings change
That doesn’t mean you have to stoop to his level

flowerpot1000000 · 02/10/2018 14:03

You will also go through an huge amount of different emotions...sadness, distraught, anger, worthlessness, depression, then anger again this is where you strength will come from

cestlavielife · 02/10/2018 14:06

"he has hidden our passports"

What ??
Get new ones
Take the dc to your home country for half term week. Let him stew. Forget hi. For a week.
Come back to your job and schools obviously.

Assume it s over
See a solicitor
Get informed
Put chilfcare in place presume you have already some childcare arrangements?

RomanyRoots · 02/10/2018 14:08

Sorry this is happening OP, he will want to treat the ow so check he can't clean out the family finances.
he has made his choice, don't do the pick me dance, get your ducks in a row and divorce him sooner rather than later.
he'll soon work out that the grass isn't greener, by which time you'll be well over the cheat.
Please get rl support and of course don't forget to tell friends and family what he has done, because he'll minimise and blame you.
Get angry OP, he's not the man you thought he was and has messed you about terribly.
He probably isn't telling the full truth, 6 weeks isn't very long, look back and see if there's a particular time he changed.

RomanyRoots · 02/10/2018 14:14

tell him you want the passports back or your telling everyone about the affair and naming her in the divorce.
Tell him the kids know he's a cheat, too.
Don't do anything to make it better for him, he's a cheating scumbag.
You surely don't want him back, he'll just keep doing it.

zenasfuck · 02/10/2018 14:14

Some of the replies on here are vile

Aaw the poor man didn't get enough sex and his wife didn't devote herself to mollycoddling him

Op he's a shit. He's thrown away everything you have and hasn't shown a flying fuck for your children so he can get his leg over with someone he barely knows

Get angry. Don't beg him. Dig deep and stay strong.

Get your finances together, see a solicitor and divorce him

RachaelGeller · 02/10/2018 14:26

eatmycheese I’m not sure it’s helpful to moralise about what you think you’d do in this situation, OP is where she is and has to deal with her reality.

Some overlap between relationships isn’t uncommon. Obviously it’d have been better for him not to cheat, but sometimes a person can trudge along unhappily for years and only get up the motivation to leave when someone else catches their eye and they get a glimpse of what life could be like with someone they’re genuinely happy with I guess. It’s not ideal but would people be judging OP’s husband any less if he’d had an emotional affair for a month then left? I doubt it. There’s every chance he grew closer to the OW over the past six weeks and as soon as it turned physical he’s told OP their marriage is over. I’m not for a minute suggesting he’s acted wonderfully but after years of marriage it’s not a surprise it’s taken a few weeks to understand his feelings and make a huge decision like leaving.

People can leave relationships that aren’t working anymore. Three years is a long time to feel unwanted sexually and NEVER have your partner initiate sex. I’d feel so unattractive and unwanted if my partner never initiated sex. Especially if I’d told him several times over the course of as many years that I was unhappy with our intimacy and nothing changed, and he pretended remembering those discussions was too much for him to be able to do.

OP you say ‘why hasn’t he told me he’s unhappy?’ but by the sounds of it, he has. For three years. Can I ask, why didn’t you try to address his worries about your sex life during that time? Did you take it for granted he’d always be around?

Fifteen years is a good run, no doubt part of wanting him back is the regret that you didn’t take him seriously or show him how much he meant to you intimately. It’s definitely not all your fault, no relationship issues are completely one sided! Please don’t think I’m suggesting that. But he’s had enough. You are incompatible. Everyone has different ways they show and like to be shown love, and if one of his is your love life and you’re not interested in ever initiating this outcome was probably inevitable eventually, whether he left for another woman or just to be alone.

I’m sorry you’re going through this, he seems pretty sure he’s done so you do need to start moving on. If you ever move onto another relationship you can take what you’ve learned from being with your DH like we all do when a relationship ends. I know you don’t want to lose your family but I don’t think you have any choice anymore. You’ll still have your family, it’ll just look different. You and the kids, him and the kids. Coparents, maybe someday friends.

again v busy mother of 3 work full time etc. I barely remember what happened yesterday let alone 3 conversations in 3 years! I would find this so hurtful in your husband’s position, when your life partner tells you they’re unhappy with the relationship and need more intimacy shown, acts of love, loving words, whatever it is, surely that’s something you’d take seriously and remember? Does he not work full time and parent three children too?

I don’t think he’s a monster. He could have dragged this on cheating for months. He’s met someone new and is ending your relationship to be able to focus on that new relationship openly. He’s told you he’s no longer in love with you. Believe him. Some of the responses here are awful, because he’s a man and has felt neglected and unhappy and unwanted sexually that means he’s a knob? Why is a man’s happiness with his love life worth so much denigration? Would you say the same to a wife who felt her confidence destroyed by never ever feeling attractive to her husband? It can wear your confidence and sexuality down over time being with someone you feel like you’re having to force yourself on to ever get that connection.

And anyway, he’s not exactly throw the marriage away in haste has he? He’s been telling OP for three years. Eventually if you want to retain your own dignity and self respect you stop begging. I can see how tempting it would be to meet someone who actually shows they want you sexually.

Adora10 · 02/10/2018 14:32

He's a liar, six weeks my arse, sex once my arse, bet it's been going on a lot longer, he's in love isn't he so doubt it was once, liar!

Stop hanging about waiting on him to decide, tell him it's over and start making a life that does not include him, he's shat all over your marriage, and is blaming you for it; lack of sex my arse, you were having sex with him; he clearly thinks he's entitled to cheat if he doesn't get sex when and how he wants it, what a horrible nasty self indulgent creep he sounds.

Wise up OP, he's no friend of yours, you need to treat him as badly as he has treated you.

There is NEVER an excuse to go online looking for someone else, no doubt said he was single blah, blah, he could have ended the relationship if he didn't want to work on it, clearly he had non intention of working on it; he's just blaming you for his own shitty, shitty behaviour.

ElspethFlashman · 02/10/2018 14:45

It's rare to have any excuse for infidelity.

That said, it's clear you were at least physically incompatible and it was going on for a while and it was ultimately a deal breaker for him.

As for the passports....You do not need passports for everyday life, so clearly he had a real fear they would be used for you to go back home with the kids. In fact, one of the first things recommended on MN is "take the passports". Particularly if the other parent is a foreign national and has expressed.

Why would he have such a fear?

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 02/10/2018 14:45

Thank you, RachaelGeller. This is what I've been trying to say. Nothing "vile" about it. I think OP needs to understand why her DH feels as he does.

Personally I wouldn't have an affair but I would definitely end my marriage once I'd given up hoping my OH would show me love and physical affection. OP's DH asked for what he needed from her numerous times over years and she hasn't taken him seriously. I don't imagine he'll change his mind. How hard must it have been to bare his soul about his unmet need for intimacy? OP has let him down several times before.

OP says I just want this nightmare to end and everything to go back to normal But OP, you need to understand that what was "normal" to you felt "loveless" to him.

lifebegins50 · 02/10/2018 15:10

The issue with affairs is that the AP might appear to fix one issue missing in the marriage but it is highly unlikely that all other factors such as how to raise children, compatibility over finances, sharing household tasks, interactions with family and friends WILL also be a good match.

Once ow and him are out of honeymoon period what will he be left with? Less money and less chance of spending time with his children. It makes sense he works on the one area of his marriage that isn't working rather than throw all of it away.

What age did you get together?

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 02/10/2018 15:29

I wouldn't imagine the affair will last. It's just the impetus to finally strike out. It's not as if this guy has had a secret life. As soon as he cheated on his DW he felt he had to tell her. He'll presumably start looking for someone more compatible in time.

Marriages end. It's no one's fault. OP and her DH aren't a good fit.

Once OP has recovered from the terrible shock and heartbreak she's now experiencing she too will be able to meet someone who's more compatible.

But none of this will happen overnight.

Adora10 · 02/10/2018 16:16

All you affair sympathisers need to re read this:
I never turned him down for sex but on the other hand I am not a naturally touchy/feely kind of person so I never initiated touch/sex either (my bad!!). But like I said I have always been like this, he knows this. He said he told me 3 times in 3 years ! that he would like more physical touch I would do it for a few days then revert back into my old/normal self/patterns (again v busy mother of 3 work full time etc. I barely remember what happened yesterday let alone 3 conversations in 3 years!!). If he had talked to me more about how he was feeling I would of 100% acted and made it right. But he never talked, never told me how unloved he felt hence I never knew

OP, he KNEW you were not a touch feely person long before you got married, again, a shit excuse to cheat on you.

You have 3 children and you work full time, so what if he had to initiate the sex, you no doubt had a million more things on your mind, you never ever rejected him so what's the problem, again, a shit excuse to cheat on you.

He mentioned it once a year to you for three years running, and yet again another shit excuse to cheat on you.

I actually cannot believe some of these replies; he actively put himself online to try and start another relationship whilst married with three kids cos he never got touched enough by his wife, actually pathetic, makes me so angry that folk agree with this behaviour.

Eatmycheese · 02/10/2018 16:18

RachelGeller

It’s not moralising. It’s advice.
You know diddly squat about me.
Get over yourself.

Talking of morals - and this includes their for him unsatisfactory sex life - it is entirely immoral to do as this woman’s husband has done.

There’s nothing unusual about what I’ve written here. In fact I go so far as to say my voice is just part of a rather rousing chorus. You and Prawn are the minority wittering in about a fading intimate connection cutting him some slack.

theredjellybean · 02/10/2018 16:30

I am sorry your hurting op but you yourself say you'd only ever tried to be a bit more touchy geeky etc for a few days then revert to type, yet you then say you'd do anything to change and be more what he wants... Why should he believe you now? He asked you before, it doesn't sound like he was pestering you every day for sex or every kiss or hug meant sex to him.
He sounds like he tried to tell you for several years he was unhappy.
If this was a woman on mn saying she'd told her dh xyz for years and he would change for a few weeks and then it goes back to same old same old... The responses are always 'he won't change.. He is showing you who he is... He doesn't care about how you feel or what you need'
Why is it different for the op's dh?

notangelinajolie · 02/10/2018 16:32

He's blaming you because he feels guilty and is doing his best to pass that guilt onto you to make himself feel better.

Re the passports - I don't know if it's affordable for you but all you need to do is tell the passport office they are lost and pay for replacements.

Singlenotsingle · 02/10/2018 16:45

It's all about sex isn't it? He wasn't getting enough, and now he's gone to someone who's providing it - FOR NOW! But she'll get bored with it too, especially if he gives her a couple of DC to keep her busy!

Sausagerollers · 02/10/2018 16:48

You need to tell him that after this first fortnight, it's his turn to spend 2 weeks with the kids, working full time and being a single parent.
You move into a friends/an airbnb or something for those 2 weeks, take some time for you and let him deal with all childcare issues, homework, washing, cleaning, cooking etc.
He may want to leave you, but he doesn't get to walk away from his responsibilities as a father.
Let him know that going forward he will have 50% care of his DC, do not down-grade your career to enable his.
Men who leave their relationships should not get to walk away from parenting, your DC are 50% his and he needs to do 50% of the work raising them.
Perhaps when he has to look after 3 DC as well as work full time he won't have quite so much time or energy for his OW.
If he's a good father he should be willing to do this.

Catsatrophe · 02/10/2018 16:54

If this spineless idiot felt the lack of sex so keenly, he could have done told the OP and left the marriage. Ages ago.

To go and live on his own and make sure the relationship with his children was good before embarking on a new relationship.

He hasn't though has he. He's had sex with someone else.

And now he's in luurve...
....and now he's leaving the marriage.

His children are going to be so proud that Daddy did the Right Thing.

Adora10 · 02/10/2018 16:55

Sausage, well said!

I bet his girlfriend will soon get bored of him once the sex wears off when he turns up with three kids!

Boulty · 02/10/2018 16:56

He sounds like he is in that 'golden glow' and everything is wonderful that can occur at the beginning of a new relationship. He may suddenly realise the grass isn't greener and will realise what he stands to lose.

If you love him and are prepared to give him and your marriage another go then go for it, it is your life and your marriage.

Whatever you decide good luck and I hope it works for you.

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