Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Strippers

108 replies

Roroba · 02/09/2018 03:57

Ok so tonight my Husband,myself and a group of our best friends enjoyed one of the best nights out I've had in ages. We went to a few bars and as usual ended up at a local lap dancing club. We often finish the night there for the simple reason it's open late plus my sister works behind the bar. Anyway I'll get to the point.until tonight, I had no reason to question my presence there., Or justify my life to anyone, I'm blessed with a good life,I'm a happy person ,my husband and I have been happily married for 12 years And I trust him with my life.
Somehow a discussion started about a woman who had recently left her husband because he had gone on a stag party to Prague and had visited a strip club when she had strictly told him he was not allowed to do!

I'm genuinely interested to hear different views about this,it upsets me to think there are women being made to feel so disgusting and worthless by their OH that a marriage is ruined needlessly.
Sorry if I'm rambling and I hope I haven't caused anyone offence .

OP posts:
louise5754 · 02/09/2018 19:52

@Skarossinkplungerridesagain what's your problem? The question wasn't for you!!

Skarossinkplungerridesagain · 02/09/2018 19:52

Oh the cool insult, how original.

MrsTerryPratchett · 02/09/2018 19:52

Well it's not really double standards @BonnieF , unless you live in a parallel universe where men are trafficked all over the world, objectified from childhood, where sexual assault rates rise if the Chippendales come to town.

And I don't go to the Chippendales so it's not double standards anyway.

Skarossinkplungerridesagain · 02/09/2018 19:54

Louise I know the question wasn't for me. I'm still allowed to respond to it

Kittykat93 · 02/09/2018 19:55

@Skarossinkplungerridesagain

Surely the whole reason op started the thread is because she doesn't understand why some women aren't 'cool' with it?

louise5754 · 02/09/2018 19:55

@Kittykat93 👍🏻

Skarossinkplungerridesagain · 02/09/2018 19:56

FuckIt Thanks for the welcome but you're about 5 years too late.

Skarossinkplungerridesagain · 02/09/2018 19:58

Not if you read the op KittyKat

AnyFucker · 02/09/2018 20:00

skaross why are you so bothered by the responses on this thread ?

Anyone would think you are talking as for the op

FuckItPassMeTheWine · 02/09/2018 20:04

@Skarossinkplungerridesagain you must have not logged in since sign up then, its a forum where people challenge other people’s views , sometimes people can be rude or mean and even sarcastic on the internet 😱 . Just another heads up, don’t get bent outta shape over it.

Skarossinkplungerridesagain · 02/09/2018 20:07

I've been pretty open about my previous job as a dancer in other threads on here. I find it pretty pathetic that people accuse women who are OK with this are acused of being brainwashed and stupid, and it happens every time.

Skarossinkplungerridesagain · 02/09/2018 20:10

Thanks for your extremely condescending explanation FuckIt.

Try not to get bent out of shape when I respond to people I feel are rude and insulting. That's how the Internet works too.

Sunflowerr · 02/09/2018 20:15

The way I read the OP and the reply to my initial question this morning exactly was that she didn't understand why some women weren't OK with them, and why their husband going there would upset them. How have you managed to read that a different way?

Skarossinkplungerridesagain · 02/09/2018 20:17

She hasn't said that she doesn't understand, she wanted to explore other's views. Maybe I've read it wrong.

Freshstart19 · 02/09/2018 20:18

@Skarossinkplungerridesagain
I'd say if they are okay with it, then they are pretty brainwashed and stupid. For reasons pointed out perfectly by the others.

I totally don't care about my OH paying to get his thrill from half naked women, while using them as mere objects. Said only stupid women ever!

Skarossinkplungerridesagain · 02/09/2018 20:24

I absolutely understand why some women are not OK with it. I won't stoop as low as Freshstart to insult people who feel differently to me, I just question the type of person who thinks it's OK to do that, and why other people feel it's acceptable.

kalinkafoxtrot45 · 02/09/2018 20:34

I’m not cool with it because a) I would not be happy with DP ogling naked or semi naked women b) it contributes to the overall objectification of women. Vile, demeaning to women, and I would like such places to close down, permanently.

Freshstart19 · 02/09/2018 20:35

I question the kind of person that thinks a man paying for sexual pleasures of a woman is okay Hmm
But hey each to there own.

Freshstart19 · 02/09/2018 20:36

Their* before I get pulled 😁

Benjaminbuttonschild · 02/09/2018 20:44

OP's second post: guess I’m curious about both.. why are strippers such a threat to some women and not to others, why are some men incapable of treating their partners with respect which creates trust and strength for both I think

Male mentality is a threat to women. It's not necessarily the stripper that is the threat to women, it is the bloke paying to see the stripper. It is his 'expectations' that are a threat to women. It is his entitlement that is a threat. It is his mindset that poses a threat. He is willing to exploit another human being for sexual gratification.

You could argue the stripper is exploiting him for money. But without the male mentality there would be no stripper.

To answer the second question, why are some men incapable with treating their partner with respect - again it comes back to point number one. Entitlement, expectation. When we live in a culture where women are glorified for their bodies on tv, in adverts, in lads mags, newspapers, film, strip clubs, sex work etc it feeds into that psyche that women aren't 'meant' to be respected.

These are my views, but it reads like common sense to me. Hope you come back to the discussion OP Smile

candlefloozy · 02/09/2018 21:24

I think until you've been to a strip
Club it's easy to assume what they are like. I've been and I was never bothered about my partner going. I actually find them a bit of a sad place to be in. Women trying to chat you up so you will have a private dance and get them more money. Some
Sad lonely men in there etc. I think all women should go so they can see for themselves!

Benjaminbuttonschild · 02/09/2018 21:38

Why would women need to go for themselves to understand that sad sacks frequent these places. I think we understand that.

Benjaminbuttonschild · 02/09/2018 21:38

And the majority aren't 'lonely', they have wives and girlfriends Hmm

I'm genuinely confused by your post.

candlefloozy · 03/09/2018 16:37

Well they're lonely when they're in there as in they're on their own?! Who says they have wives and girlfriends?

candlefloozy · 03/09/2018 16:38

Because I think some women assume what sleazy places they are when they aren't like that.