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The ex is moving his tart in.

114 replies

MiaWallace · 04/06/2007 21:25

Ex has just informed me that as soon as I move out of our house (in a few weeks) he will be moving in with his gf.

We split up a few months ago but before he moved out (and within a week of us spliting)I found her earings on my bedside table.

As well as her moving into my home and playing happy families with my daughter every weekend, she's even taken over my gym memembership.

I feel like this woman has stolen my life. She is welcome to the ex but does she have to take everything else?

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Onedaysoon · 05/06/2007 09:58

Haven't read all the posts but I have to say that IMO any woman who knowingly sleeps with a man who is already involved, especially when there is a child involved should be held fully accountable, every bit as much as he. At the risk of sounding like a cliche - what about 'sisterhood'? What about women saying no way will I get involved with you, you have a wife/girlfriend/partner and there is/are a child/children whose lives will be devastated if we start something up?
Only someone who has never been on the receiving end of a betrayal like this could say that the woman was blameless.

GreebosWhiskers · 05/06/2007 09:58

I'm sorry to hear this. The exact same happened to me (gf was my best friend - or so I thought - and she even helped ex-h pack up the last of my stuff the day after I moved out). It's absolutely horrendous & like you say it's not the fact that she's got him, it's the fact that she's trying to have the rest of your life too.

KerryMum · 05/06/2007 10:04

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GreebosWhiskers · 05/06/2007 10:16

Kerrymum - they're married now, she's pg & they have my dd1 & dd2 living with them & their dd. Apart from the fact that I have to share my girls like this I'm actually not fussed - she even came along to our mile for maude walk after reading about it in the paper It's been almost 10 years & it took a long time but I'm over it (if I'm honest he wasn't actually worth the anguish I went through altho' I couldn't see that at the time). I'm married again to a lovely (not to mention sexy lol) man & we have dd3 & ds together.

MiaWallace - onwards & upwards luv. Best thing you can do is live your life the best way you can & remember that a man (or woman) who cheats isn't worth hanging onto. Good luck with everything

dramaqueen · 05/06/2007 10:16

hang on a minute, didn't MW say that she only came into her house and had a relationship after they separated? Why is she a tart then?

mylittlestar · 05/06/2007 10:33

dramaqueen is it worth debating whether she is or isn't a tart?!

the woman hid in the study ffs - are those the actions of someone who feels completely innocent and justified in what they are doing? I think not!

mia is posting for support. not looking for an argument. please don't turn this into one.

MiaWallace · 05/06/2007 10:38

I never stated he cheated on me. Yes I did say we had separated, but it had only been a week. Plus she came into my home and my bed. Ok he was technically single but firstly it was insensitive of him to begin a relationship when we was still living together. Secondly she was a tart because she couldn't wait to jump into MY bed.

If the tables were turned I would not get involved with someone who was a week out of a long-term relationship with the mother of his child. I wouldn't get involved with someone who was still living with someone else and I defiantly wouldn't sleep in anothers womans bed, knowing she had only left the house for a few hours.

In my opinion this makes her a tart

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MiaWallace · 05/06/2007 10:38

I never stated he cheated on me. Yes I did say we had separated, but it had only been a week. Plus she came into my home and my bed. Ok he was technically single but firstly it was insensitive of him to begin a relationship when we was still living together. Secondly she was a tart because she couldn't wait to jump into MY bed.

If the tables were turned I would not get involved with someone who was a week out of a long-term relationship with the mother of his child. I wouldn't get involved with someone who was still living with someone else and I defiantly wouldn't sleep in anothers womans bed, knowing she had only left the house for a few hours.

In my opinion this makes her a tart

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MiaWallace · 05/06/2007 10:38

damn, so mad I posted twice

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KerryMum · 05/06/2007 10:38

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fireflyfairy2 · 05/06/2007 10:43

Of course you don't.

FWIW I think tart is very tame

Fubsy · 05/06/2007 11:37

Why are so many people on here hung up about semantics and what someone elses feelings may or may not be?

I know sometimes its fun to play devils advocate, but equally when youve been slighted in such an earth shattering way, dont some of you, even a tiny bit, feel like using every adjective you can think of in the worst way possible?

I thought this about Macdoodles post, and its happened again already.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone, and mind your glass walls!

Fubsy · 05/06/2007 11:38

Oh and Mia, I would have thought of PLENTY of words to use!

Lets face it - "my ex is moving his lady friend in to my marital bed" would make you sound as if it was all right!

UnquietDad · 05/06/2007 13:54

View from Man Corner. With shields up.

It's always sad when a relationship comes to an end, whatever the reason. I'm probably not in any position to speak, never having experienced the sharp end of marital break-up; on the other hand some friends and family members have and it often saddens me that, having been unhappy together, they don't seem able to move on and be happily separated. People are going to have new lives; it's what happens when you split up, and people are not necessarily going to behave in the most dignified of ways about it.

It does sound as if MW's DH has been a little hasty in getting it together with this person, but I'm sure he has his reasons.

The gym subscription is just a "thing" and I would have thought it would be mild in comparison to the end of a relationship with children. (I'm not quite clear why you couldn't have kept the gym membership, MW. Are you moving out of the area? Or does it have to be a double?)

I suppose, ultimately, he is being a bit of an arse, but maybe if you are both happy, rather than bitter and resentful, it's better for the child to see you that way. Are you happy, MW? Happier than you were when with him, I mean? If you are, then she can then see that, while not ideal, divorce and separation are not the end of the world and that people can still co-operate as parents even if they no longer love one another.

Is he still being a good dad, regardless of goings-on in other areas?

And one more thing - some of you (not on this thread, necessarily, but on mumsnet generally) have "come out" as having been "the other woman" before you began your married lives, and speak of "the ex" in vitriolic tones which posters are invited to join in with, or at least empathise with.

MiaWallace · 05/06/2007 15:32

In answer to your question Yes I am happier without him.

Doesn't stop it hurting when you are so easily replaced.

I've been very fair and mature about this situation, for my own pride and for the sake of my daughter.

It's all very way to say be amicable and move on but even if you know its for the best I doubt if anyone who's had a meaningful relationship can walk away with no pain.

If the worse I've done is come on a message board, that neither of them read, to call her a tart, I think they got away lightly.

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Janos · 05/06/2007 18:38

I'd been reading your posts with a great deal of sympathy, MiaWallace.

I was in a very similar situation to you and yes it hurts like hell. Except my XP didn't even wait until I'd moved out.

I think you are being very restrained indeed calling her a tart and completely understand what you are going through.

People are counselling 'be reasonable' cannot possibly understand the tremendous hurt and pain behaviour like this can cause.

MiaWallace · 05/06/2007 19:12

Hi Janos. Sorry you had to go through this too. Ex didn't wait till I moved out either. He moved in with him mum after I found out he had been sneaking her in our bed while I was out of the house.

I'm shocked that people have justified his (and her) behaviour. Guess it's only if your unfortunate to go through something like this, that you can understand the hurt and pain it causes.

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Janos · 05/06/2007 19:24

Isn't it horrible. I was stuck in the flat looking after our DS while he ran off behaving like a single man with his new girlfriend.

It was just awful.

MiaWallace · 05/06/2007 19:40

How long ago was this Janos? Does it still hurt?

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Janos · 05/06/2007 20:07

Actually, all this happened about a year ago.

We had been separated for a while but were still living under the same roof (long story) and were still sleeping together, (yes, as in sex) sharing a bed.

I was actually thinking that maybe we should give things another go as we were getting on so well..we had discussed it, in a very 'casual' sort of way.

Then he pulled this (as in going off with his new girlfriend).He didn't move her in straight away but spent all his time away acting like the aforementioned single man while I was looking after DS (lots of going out on the piss, partying with workmates,staying over at hers, sending lots of soppy texts, rushing off to make 'personal calls' with lots of giggling etc).

I was absolutely heartbroken. The pain does recede (I promise) but yes, I can remember with awful clarity what it was like and how humiliated and devastated I was.

ambercat · 05/06/2007 20:35

Mia, really sorry you have had such a shitty time.

If there is anything i can do to help/support you please let me know (maybe sewing prawns into curtains??)

Best of luck with your move and course, you must have worked really hard in difficult circumstances, really admire you, i know i couldn't do it.

p.s.(we met at galmington toddlers in case you don't know who i am!!)

lilybubble · 05/06/2007 21:12

Mia, sorry you are going through this - how horrible. Can't believe that she is even using your gym membership - what a little trollop

My tosspot of an ex walked out on 1 April with no warning and moved in with his little tart about 6 weeks later so I completely understand what you're going through. They can be such insensitive pigs sometimes can't they?

Hope your move goes okay, you sound like a strong woman who is doing the best for your daughter. Take care xxx

MiaWallace · 05/06/2007 21:31

Janos, I'm glad to know that the pain has eased for you. To be honest I'm surprised that I'm dealing with it so well. Maybe it's because I know deep down it's for the best and I'm better off without him.

ambercat of course I remember you, thank you for your kind words. I let you know about the prawns

lilybubble, I'm shocked how many of us have gone through this. I still think there are some good men out there though - ever the optimist

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madamez · 05/06/2007 23:11

While it's understandable (but not compulsory) to rant a bit when a relationship ends, wanting to leave a relationship is not actually that much of a crime. People do it. Relationships run their course and end, for a variety of reasons. Forming a new relationship or even just having a few shags after a relationship has ended are not terrible things to do. When you have split up with someone, who they have sex with is no longer any of your business.

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