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Should I ignore my spidey senses??

139 replies

pandoraphile · 15/08/2018 21:11

DP works away. A lot. Out in very a remote area. He is always contactable and we speak at least 2-3 times during the day and we message frequently. His job means that he HAS to be contactable on the landline so he always answers within 2-4 rings. ALWAYS.

He had the day off today and said that he was working from the house all day doing some stuff to do with his hobby. He says he never left it. I tried to call him at 12ish on his mobile. No answer. His mobile has never rung out there before because there really is 0% signal. Whatever, maybe there was a sudden patch of reception. But he would ALWAYS, ALWAYS call me back. This time he didn't. Which struck me as odd.

No contact at all until I tried again to call him on the landline at 4ish which, again, rang out. By this point I was actually worried because it is so out of character for him. I then had to run around dropping DD2 to a sleepover party, got caught by the mum, had to stay for a chat, etc., etc. Got home and was cooking DD1 dinner. I get a text : "I'm really horny." Er- what?! No contact all day and that's the first thing he says?? Bizarre. That's only ever happened once before and he was lying about something then too. I'm also 98% confident that the text was meant for me. Anyway, he then rings.

We then had a sort of argument which I'll precis: I said I tried to call, he denied the phone ringing either time. We went round and round in circles. He immediately became very defensive, "So you're accusing me are you?" - No, I'm stating fact, you didn't answer your phone. The only reason I tried to speak to him twice is because it's his birthday today!! I got variously:

"So you're accusing me of lying to you?"
"I don't know why you're accusing me." (I wasn't, I was very calm and explained that I had called him twice and both times it rang out. I really do not have an axe to grind!!) He got very defensive which is totally unlike him.

Then we had the long pauses. Which is one of his cues when he's lying. Then we had the overly stroppy "Oh, best birthday EVER!" I cannot explain how much this is out of character. I've actually made a huge amount of effort for his birthday, which he won't know until he's home (tomorrow.....).

He kept denying that the phone had rung. I kept calmly saying that it had. I'm not going insane. I heard those separate phones ring for a few seconds each time. I only rang twice at 12 and at 4.

He then starts on the whole dramatic "Call me now then, I need to know if the phone is working properly. It's a huge work issue if it's not." I do as he asks and lo and behold the phone is answered. He then blathers on about contacting BT to check the line because there must be a massive issue and it can't affect work (he's finished work and the on-call person also has a work mobile). He actually went so far as to say:

"I didn't get any callouts last week and I'm wondering if the phone is the reason." Right - so - when people need you urgently, they're only going to try one line? Despite there being a dedicated work mobile? And the fact that you're at work all day and they can see you there? You are really worried that some calls might have been missed? To clarify: if he's called out of hours then it's an emergency. So if there had been a cock-up he would DEFINITELY know. So I strongly suspect that the whole 'I need to contact BT about this' is smoke and mirrors.

It would be insanely out of character for him to be cheating/hiding something. But he himself said "There's no mobile signal for ten miles south of here." I said "Well, you must have been ten miles south then!" He denies it.

I really, really, think he's lying. WTAF do I do??

OP posts:
Butterymuffin · 15/08/2018 23:12

Aside of the phone call stuff, I don't get why if he had a day off for his birthday, he would spend it at this remote place doing things to do with his hobby and also working? That seems very strange. Did that seem odd to you when he told you the plan?

I also think that text was meant for someone else. Can you expand on your certainty that it was for you? You mentioned he'd sent that message before and was lying then?

Electrascoffee · 15/08/2018 23:17

I also think you should trust your gut to an extent. But he could be up to something other than cheating. Like gambling maybe?

janaus · 16/08/2018 01:03

Play it calm. Over and done with, but be very alert. Trust your gut instincts. Don’t rock the boat too much, or he will cover his tracks.

Dennishoppersocks · 16/08/2018 01:54

He’s lying through his teeth. And that text was for someone else. He will now be shitting himself and I suspect will try and engineer a row when he gets home, to take some of the guilt/heat off him. I’m so sorry this is happening. It might be a daft flirtation and not worth throwing in the towel on your marriage, but be vigilant, all the same.

esk1mo · 16/08/2018 02:05

i’d watch and wait. do you have access to his mobile phone bill?

otherwise id act normal and check his phone when he’s back. if you outright accuse him he will wipe his phone.

ReggieKrayDoYouKnowMyName · 16/08/2018 02:18

Another one who knows from bitter experience to trust your gut. Dig and do it soon before he erases any evidence.

Monty27 · 16/08/2018 02:42

When is he due home? Sorry if I missed that OP

pandoraphile · 16/08/2018 04:44

The contacting each other pattern was just what we've fallen into. It wasn't set down as necessary.

It's so, so difficult because he is literally the last person to be suspicious about (I KNOW - cliche).

I don't have access to his phone but he sent me a call log which was a load of bollocks.

The photo below is his 'evidence' that he hadn't missed/taken any calls.

OP posts:
pandoraphile · 16/08/2018 04:46

Oh, due home tomorrow. Which he's been cagey about.

Fuck. If I were reading this I know what I would think.

I'm going to have the dogs in with me tonight 😞

OP posts:
Shoxfordian · 16/08/2018 06:03

Why didn't he spend his day off for his birthday with you though? I think that text was aimed at someone else as well. He's very shifty

lapenguin · 16/08/2018 06:12

I mean that text seems very odd...
If you have a pattern to contact eachother wouldn't he have gotten worried that you hadn't contacted him? If I was worried I hadn't heard from someone all day my first text wouldn't be I'm horny...

User1011 · 16/08/2018 06:26

What was your reason for checking up on him?
Wouldn’t it be normal not to answer the landline on your day off?

bimbobaggins · 16/08/2018 06:39

From my own personal experience, when my exp was working away a text clearly not meant for me was the first inklings I had of him cheating.

Strongsinglemama · 16/08/2018 06:40

If something quacks like a duck it is a duck

I had numerous suspicions about my ex, he always did this blaming shifting thing. Became more deceitful until I found out the truth. Innocent people don't need to get defensive, they apologise

madcatladyforever · 16/08/2018 06:45

Definitely lying but you have no way of finding out. I'm wondering if that message was for someone else.
I ignored my feelings and all kinds of crap was going on behind my back.

NynaeveSedai · 16/08/2018 06:54

If he’s lying and “up to something,” then why would he have ignored the land line?

OP thinks he wasn't there, hence the mobile having signal.

OP your name is visible in that screenshot, I would ask for it to be deleted if I were you.

TheGoldenWolfFleece · 16/08/2018 07:01

I also think he's up to something. His reaction more than anything.

Mytwistedimagination · 16/08/2018 07:01

Innocent people don't need to get defensive, they apologise
Absolutely true.

tomhazard · 16/08/2018 07:14

I think your husband is lying. The text makes
Me think this.
Btw op get that photo deleted- the two names in the call log are clear.

FromNowOn · 16/08/2018 07:57

I wouldn’t do anything right now, I would watch and wait. Do some digging. If you jump in with accusations he’ll hide any evidence.

FWIW I’ve had problems with mobiles doing that.

5LeafClover · 16/08/2018 09:00

His reaction sounds odd. I think that's what's got your spidey senses going. I'd be looking for another phone, the one he meant to send that text on.

MarthasGinYard · 16/08/2018 09:08

He sounds SO defensive which would make me so suspicious.

And surely he might think you would phone on his birthday.

I'd be suspicious and if that isn't the normal type of text he sent I'd be suspicious.

No contact and then 'horney' text

Only you know if that's a change of behaviour

pandoraphile · 16/08/2018 10:37

There's too much that just doesn't add up. And he's even more defensive today. He literally hung up on me which he's never done before. But whatever the truth is, it's buried deep and I have no idea how to get at it.

He's travelling home now. He should be back around 8pm.

OP posts:
MarthasGinYard · 16/08/2018 10:47

As hard as it is Op

I'd be normal as possible whilst being quietly vigilant

If anything is a wry he will have possibly jane covered his tracks, deleted etc.

For now

Hanbam · 16/08/2018 10:52

My advice would be to act normally and then do some digging and find some evidence. This could take some time I’m afraid OP, I’m very sure he will have cleared his phone of any evidence if he is up to something, but eventually you will find something. I think the biggest red flag here OP is his behaviour is out of character. Who would that be?

Always trust your spidey senses.

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