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How can a man (me) approach his partner about PMS

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Anon1221 · 14/08/2018 00:11

Hi everybody. I have seen some great advice on this forum, we used it a lot when my son (now 7) was born, but this one is slightly different, and hopefully somebody can help me.

I will really try and be as sensitive as I can, I don’t want I get flamed on here. I appreciate that I could never comprehend what it is like to have hormones everywhere, but unfortunately I feel like my situation is spiralling further and further out of control.

My partner (26F) can be very stubborn, as can I, especially in an argument. 99% of the time we get on great, buy an argument can really take it out of both of us as we are both to proud to take any responsibility at the time. I am always the one to admit fault (even when I do not think I was necessarily in the wrong) just to get the argument finished. The problem then is I am sort of left having to work hard for a couple of weeks to get the relationship going on all burners again. I suppose it’s better than the alternative, because I do think the world of her, but it is starting to wear me down.

To get back onto my point, these arguments (over nothing but can go on a few days) tend to crop up around the time of my partners period. I am generally very laid back, but I have found myself putting in extra effort around this time to give a wider berth. Again, please let me stress, I do not envy anyone who has to go through this. But it’s starting to have an effect on me, that I can’t really ignore any more, as I’m my view it can become slightly bullying behaviour.

The latest example is this. We were out walking the dog with some friends. I didn’t realise my SO had the dog on the lead, and I, without thinking, threw a ball for him. He’s quite a big dog, and unfortunately pulled my partner to the ground quite hard. I didn’t realise what had really happened at first, but I instantly ran over and helped her up and made sure she was ok. I apologised as I really felt terrible, but this was met with a furious outburst, which ended up with me being punched, with moderate/hard force to my neck/collar bone area. I could see I had made a mistake and I did apologise, I genuinely felt terrible, but I did calmly say that I didn’t think that it was an acceptable reaction, especially in front of friends, although I can see why she did it to a certain extent?

Anyway, we continued walking, and admittedly, I was in a bit of a huff. I didn’t say anything, but I think this was the problem. We stopped after a minute or so, and my partner started yelling at me saying “I was in another one of my moods” , “This is why I hate you” , “I don’t want to be with you if you’re going to be like this” , “I’m ashamed to bring you out with my friends” and also started waiving the car keys at me and telling me to go and wait in the car, I felt really humiliated, but I could see she was really upset, as she was crying, so I continued to not say anything.

Fast forward, we make it to our destination, and as our friends got drinks, she learnt over to me and nicely asked if we could forget it. For the sake of not embarrassing ourselves in front of friends, the day sort of returned to normality.

Next day, we wake up, and I admittedly was in a bit of a huff. My partner was in a great mood and acting like nothing happened. I tried to reciprocate this, but I genuinely felt quite hurt about what had happened, and then later in the morning voiced my concerns. At this point, I should probably say, I really wish I had just forgotten about the whole thing and just moved on, I think this is something I definitely have to work on to avoid situations like this in the future.

This is when the * hit the fan unfortunately! She has essentially broken up with me, but is putting all of the blame on me. I understand I was clumsy to throw the ball without checking if the dog was on a lead. But I have been met with threats to break up with me, comments like “I’m ashamed of myself for staying with you if you keep going in these moods” “I’m sick of the person you’ve become with your relationship ruining moods” “I’ve lost all my trust in you” “my friends think you’re crazy” “this is why you have no friends” (this is the worst one as I am sensitive to the fact that I haven’t got any close friends, mainly due to me devoting most of my time to my partner). I have somehow now become the one feeling like I have to apologise. The only thing that she seems to care about is me being in a “mood”.

I have tried to explain that after a scenario like that, I don’t really feel like talking. Apart from not talking my behaviour is totally normal, as in I don’t start slamming things about or anything like that.

I’m so sorry this is the worlds longest post. But I am terrified of how to approach this subject. As I mentioned earlier, it’s not a negative trait in particular, but she is very stubborn, and never takes responsibility for anything (as in it’s always someone else’s fault) should I just give an even wider berth in the future (as this sort of thing is happening almost monthly) or is it best to approach her about it. If so, what would be the best way to word it, without coming across insensitive, rude or ignorant?

Thanks for enduring if you have made it this far.

OP posts:
HarmlessChap · 14/08/2018 14:42

@LesTroisSourisAveugles if she punched a rude shop assistant the PMS excuse wouldn't stack up in court.

No doubt she is aware of this which is why she chooses only to assault her partner.

FermatsTheorem · 14/08/2018 14:54

Excellent point Harmless. It's the same question we'd ask a woman: does she punch shop assistants, her boss, her colleagues, if she loses her rag at the wrong time of the month?

If she can control herself round them, she can control herself around you, Anon - she's just choosing not to.

ElspethFlashman · 14/08/2018 14:56

I imagine the OP is feeling pretty overwhelmed about now.

It may take some time to sink in.

ThriceThriceThice · 14/08/2018 15:31

LesTroisSourisAveugles
Thrice, the OP said his partner is ok the rest of the time, it’s only at a certain point in her cycle she gets unreasonable or even aggressive. She is not like this all the time. The OP said they get on really well outside the PMS window.

He's also said they have problems with intimacy, that she is never wrong (that's not due to hormones - that's all the time with everyone) and that she never apologises - it sounds hideous (even without the added serving of violence).

I am always the one to admit fault (even when I do not think I was necessarily in the wrong) just to get the argument finished. The problem then is I am sort of left having to work hard for a couple of weeks to get the relationship going on all burners again.

So they are rowing at least once a month and then he is crawling around her for 2 weeks to make it right again. My view is that this is an abusive relationship that is destructive to the OP - I hope he leaves.

Feedthemachine1 · 14/08/2018 15:52

I have been exactly where you are now , I'm male by the way ,my children's mother started like you're partner , one incident ended up with me in hospital for a few days , not saying what happened as I still find the whole thing distressing years later., but she wants control of you .pms is her excuse . I ended up with no friends.Made us move so I was isolated from my family .etc
Because she thought she had won cheated on me
I left and saw her for what she was.
To get her own back as she had lost control she abandoned the kids 2years later and vanished ,costing me my new relationship (4 extra kids to suddenly support) that was five years ago and I'm still suffering for it all.
I hope things don't get that bad for you ,but my advice is to run and run fast as it won't get better.

Dwayna · 14/08/2018 15:53

@LoisWilkerson1 antidepressants and contraceptive pill are prescribed as first line treatment for PMS/PMDD. Propanolol as well if anxiety is an issue. The idea of the pill is to stop you ovulating and minimise the surge of hormones each month.

They can prescribe other things if that doesn't help. Its about finding what's right for you. In the most severe cases some women end up having a full hysterectomy to make it stop. www.mind.org.uk/information-support/types-of-mental-health-problems/premenstrual-dysphoric-disorder-pmdd/pmdd-treatments/

LesTroisSourisAveugles · 14/08/2018 16:12

Dwayne, an excellent post. Helps to bring the subject out there and increase awareness. It says something when women suffering it aren’t often aware.

It is up to OP to make that call whether his DP is abusive or just hormonal. We don’t know all the ins and outs. There is food for thought in the responses he has received. I have never hit my DH while in the grip of my vile moods, but there is no denying women can feel the rage and be short fused at that time of the month. Read the link above about PMDD, it is no laugh.

Hope

Transpeaked · 14/08/2018 16:17

This is abuse. End of. She sounds like a bloody nightmare. She is gaslighting you, humiliating you, blowing hit and cold on you. Abuse. Pure and simple. Get out.

AndTheBandPlayedOn · 14/08/2018 16:31

Why didn’t she just drop the leash? (The dog has been off leash before.)

Imho, she lashed out at you to put the focus on you to mask her (stupid) error which could have prevented her being pulled over. It could have been a cat or squirrel the dog charged towards...or any other random thing-dogs being dogs.

I agree you are a victim of domestic violence. Get yourself and your child away from her, sharpish.
Brew Sorry you are going through this.

foxyliz26 · 14/08/2018 16:40

If she looks like this , best leave it

How can a man (me) approach his partner about PMS
Jupiter9 · 14/08/2018 16:42

A young gentleman I know often gets beat by his wife when she's on her period. He also has to grovel for forgiveness for being responsible for his own beating. He sounds just like you. She will beat you again. Good luck.

Feedthemachine1 · 14/08/2018 16:43

@foxyliz26
My ex never looked like that ,she was always calm and methodical no matter what she did!
Hence why I can't read anyone anymore.

Jupiter9 · 14/08/2018 17:04

Apparently she will wear him down till he cracks, he will speak up for himself then it's too late. The beating takes place. He's had loads accidents the last 6 months. Nice chap, he should just keep quiet.

HiThere1984 · 14/08/2018 23:31

My dear, there is no excuse to hit you.
You should just leave.
I have pretty bad PMS and every 2 days of the month I go to a very very dark place.
Yesterday was one of those where I was just crying and hitting myself witha rolling pin. But I would never ever ever hit anyone.

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