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Help - is there any other reason? Possible hook ups with men

394 replies

futurefallingapart · 11/06/2018 14:19

Name changed, occasional poster, regular reader. Sorry if this is long and incoherent (also typing fast as don't have long so apologies for any typos)

Background for context

LTR not married
OH Bi sexual - knew from start - very honest about past - fine. Explained as just a sexual thing, previous relationships all been with women.
2 children - 1 primary school 1 pre school
Own house together
Relationship - apart from normal ups and downs, lovely lifestyle, great friends and family, very social together, financially secure (well apart from the £200k savings he has in his sole savings account) lots of holiday etc
1 occasion of infidelity on his part early in the relationship, not affair just one off, split for a while, he had counselling, decided to get back together as honestly very happy, he did all the right things, complete access to phone, email etc etc
We live around 1hr from where his family and business are

Anyway came home earlier than planned this morning, as I walked in to bedroom OH had jumped up and was making the bed (this was around 9am - own business no set hours). Rolled my eyes and thought he was either 1. Relieving himself or 2. Being lazy and felt bad.

Anyway his phone had fallen on the floor, he didn't see I'd spotted this and he got straight in shower.

I looked.

Last thing he'd done was been on a call to someone but it had been deleted. (Swiped up and could see call log but when I actually went in there, no calls).

So I checked his phone bill. Not done this for years. I don't care if that means I 'snooped'.

Couldn't get the call/calls from today but over the last 6 months (all I managed to download before he was out of shower) there was a few numbers that looked odd - only called at certain days, short calls etc not every day but regular enough. Just had a feeling.

Managed to locate one owner through Facebook.

Single gay man, 20 years older than us, lives and owns a Business in OH home/business town. Has a fab guys account where he advertises a 'glory hole' 3 days a week.

There is NO reason why my OH would be calling this guy. Not remotely work related, not an old friend, not someone his family knows etc

He's calling him for hook ups isn't he? It would be completely plausible for him to visit that area as his business is located there, as are his family.

I feel sick and I don't know what to do. He adores our children and swore he would never do this again. I made it very clear that there would be no future chances. He is very against at what he calls being a 'part time Dad' and would hate to not live with the children. We socialise together, sex life has lows and high (as with small children) but it always good, experimental, passionate.

We've been taking about getting married next year and having another baby. We are planning major expensive work to our house

I'm trying to think of excuses. Maybe he's an old friend I don't know about, maybe this, maybe that. There isn't though is there? It's black and white.

Not only fucking up our lives together it would be awful if we separated, Our families are very close, his business and my job are linked, we share all the same friends. Why has he done this???????

I feel sick, I can't eat, I honestly don't know what to do? Do I call him out now? Do I wait and find out some more info? Do I bury my head in the sand and get myself financially secure. (I work and with his maintenance and benefits I could afford to stay in the house, I would just like some money behind me. As stated 'our' savings are in his account)

Help please I have no one to talk to this in real life. I don't know what to do, I'm gutted.

OP posts:
MaverickSnoopy · 14/06/2018 06:44

Those who are saying that he's probably gay and in denial, I'm not convinced. I think he sounds more like a sex addict.

OP in another lifetime and when I was much younger, I dated a guy for about a year who I was completely in love with. He used to do this shit. I had no idea at all. He was quite experimental in the bedroom and did ask me to do some things that I wasn't comfortable with. I said no and he seemed fine but behind the scenes he was putting adverts out to have sex with men and booking female escorts. It took me a long time to get over him and we had only been together a year and no children involved. I can't even begin to imagine how you must be feeling. You are sensational keeping this quiet and coming up with a plan to protect yourself and your children. I am honestly in awe of you.

You don't have to keep the pretence up much longer and you will be so pleased that you did it. One day soon you will be in your home with your children and you will be living life how you want to and one day you will meet someone who will treat you how you really deserve to be treated.

shammy1b · 14/06/2018 08:07

glad your getting ducks in order chick. Cannot get over how people can easily do this shit and then lie next to us and pretend like alls fine and fucking dandy and then we feel shit for secretly fucking them over..nahhh..no more..glad we have places like this to go to to vent and realise that most in the same boat and we can get strength to leave not JUST for the kids but also for ourself and our well being cause it aint easy to talk in RL sometimes no matter how many friends you have or how close you are to someone..it can be fucking hard. I really do appreciate women like you and only wish i had momsnet back in the day yo make me realise what a knob i had.

Juells · 14/06/2018 08:12

He's probably getting a queasy feeling that some of his shit might have floated to the surface. Hope you've changed all passwords, as he'll be trying to check what you've been doing online. Clear your search history completely on all devices.

shammy1b · 14/06/2018 08:17

@Juells True

Badoukas · 14/06/2018 08:35

I'm thinking you could suggest you pay down a big chunk of your mortgage using the savings. That is a quick way to put those funds into something you have a half share in.

Juells · 14/06/2018 08:40

He's not going to buy that, he has other plans for that money. Plus he'll be aware that there's something going on, and things might be about to go tits up.

Badoukas · 14/06/2018 08:41

I also think that because he is ashamed of his sexuality and will be desperate to keep the details of his straying quiet, you may find him surprisingly easy to negotiate with. Of course this depends on you having enough indisputable evidence as your ammunition.

Failingat40 · 14/06/2018 09:18

I just hope the Daily Mail & The Sun don't pick this up before the op gets the chance to confront her partner.

Several threads I've been on this week have ended up in the press, one even featured the story on Loose Women!

Op I hope you're okay.

MaverickSnoopy · 14/06/2018 11:42

If you're looking up things online make sure that you do so using the incognito tab on your phone so that he doesn't see that you're looking at solicitors etc through cookies. Bloody cookies.

Also if you've changed his email password then won't he pick up on that?

ackshually · 14/06/2018 13:51

Interesting what MaverickSnoopy said.

I had a not dissimlar experience. Unfortunately I went along with it a bit and it was only with hindsight that I realised that some of his sexual tastes were a sign of a lack of boundaries and deeper problems. I think I had probably bought into the 'modern' idea that sexual "experimentation" is good, when actually it isn't always and is quite often completely valueless and meaningless on its own terms. I worry about future generations (of women in particular, but also men) being fed the lie that normal passionate sex is "vanilla" (how I hate that term) or that they are being uptight if they are going along with stuff they are not sure about or don't like.

Don't want to derail your thread Future I hope you don't mind me adding my own experience. When people are leading double lives, there are any number of explanations but Mavericks idea sounds plausible. I hope you are taking the advice about looking after yourself, and managing the practicalities for your plans for tomorrow, good luck.

ChocolatePeacock · 14/06/2018 18:57

Good luck for tomorrow love. Nail his balls to the wall. Thanksfor you and your DC x

TimesNewRoman · 14/06/2018 19:11

Good luck tomorrow Thanks

Lsnowe · 14/06/2018 21:04

Good luck Thanks Everyone here is behind you.

binkyblinky · 14/06/2018 21:10

Thinking of you x

Iflyaway · 14/06/2018 21:17

Also just wanted to say i wish other posters wouldnt advise cheap tricks like rubbing chilli on his underwear.

I agree! What the hell does THAT solve? Some people think it may be all a laugh or something.

This is a woman with young kids going through this!

And before any of you think "Oh no, this could never happen to me"....
Give your head a wobble.

LOADS of bisexuals in this world. And living a lie pretending to be the perfect dad in a "perfect" situation. Yes, wife, mother, children, job, house, etc.

The term MSM - Men having Sex with Men - is what this is about.

Or have some empathy FFS!

OP, you are very brave to put this on MN. I wish you all the best going forwards.

ReginaOcarina · 14/06/2018 21:21

Good luck for tomorrow Flowers

notapizzaeater · 14/06/2018 21:40

Good luck tomorrow, hope he just accepts it and doesn't argue/deny

divafever99 · 14/06/2018 21:47

Wow just read the full thread, how awful for you, sounds like you are managing this situation really well and being very strong. Thanks

NotAnotherNoughtiesTune · 14/06/2018 21:55

Thinking of you for tomorrow 💐

NotAnotherNoughtiesTune · 14/06/2018 21:55

Thinking of you for tomorrow 💐

Justaboy · 14/06/2018 22:28

A very awfull situation OP but you really must talk to the solicitor before you do much else. The rights of a married woman are rather different from an unmarried one as regards property children and the rest of it.

Alicatz66 · 14/06/2018 22:49

Sending you love for tomorrow.. stay strong x

ZigZagIntoTheBlue · 14/06/2018 22:54

Good luck - stay strong Flowers

ThatsWotSheSaid · 14/06/2018 23:29

Good luck OP. You’ve got this!

Nannamia · 15/06/2018 00:04

OP it's already Friday here in Australia, I just wanted you to know I'm thinking of you.
You sound like a lovely, lovely person and have shown immense strength and dignity even though you must be dying inside.
Good luck.

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