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Brave Babes Battle Bus: Sunshine, Roses and Mocktails All Round

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SweetLathyrus · 11/06/2018 07:21

Hi, I'm SweetLathyrus, Sweet for short, and I've been on and off Gerald the Brave Babes Battle Bus since 2014. Over the years, lots of us have maintained the thread, most of all the lovely Mouse, who has been here since the early days, and still scurries onboard when she can.

The bus is a place of support, safety and occasional silliness for those of us struggling with our relationship with alcohol. Some of us are sober, some are trying to be, some are moderating and aren't ready to give up alcohol just yet.

So whatever your reason for questioning the whys and WTFs of your drinking, hop on board, make yourselves comfortable and join in. Driers and Triers, all welcome.

Summer offers all kinds of challenges for those of us trying to change our relationship to alcohol, pub gardens, summer holidays, school holidays, and apparently there's a big football tournament too. If you want to read where the bus has been so far this year here's the link to the
last thread

And in case you want to know how it all started, here is the link to JWN's original, inspiring thread

The Bus is a bit of a Mumsnet institution, but it has an open door policy, no cliques, no judgement, and the welcome is always warm. So hop on and join us.

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Mouseface · 21/11/2018 00:31

Hello Babes, tis me, Mouse

Wow!! I’ve missed you guys SOOOOOO much!! So much has gone on since I last posted here so I won’t try to back track as such, but I’m here to give everyone and anyone who is feeling wobbly as “That Time Of Year” comes around again Smile

I’ve not managed to catch up with you all, but I’d like to say that vodka for me is an occasional treat, I have stopped wine completely as actually, it’s a cheap, quick fix on an empty stomach because let’s face it...... eating is cheating, and those home measures of wine whilst getting ready to go out and really get wasted! And we all know how that ends. 😢

I’m sorry for not being around and then just jumping back in but I come bearing gifts!!! 😊

Stay warm and well lovely friends. Sorry to say that I’ll be around a little more now that the weather is getting worse, unfortunately I have a lot of hospital appointments due to various new issues that have come to light, including I’m afraid to say a breast lump under investigation (back again in 2 weeks to perform more tests and repeat the mammogram, just in time for Christmas, I’m now having to get hearing aids fitted, my pain is as horrific as ever, as is my constant battle to stay alive at night, thanks to my sleep apnea and the fact that when the NHS are good, they’re grand but when they’re not, by Jeff (I’m not religious so, er, Jeff it is!) they are super shit!! Plus, we’re stuck between two bloody hospitals because the NHS can’t decide what should go where in Shropshire 🙄🙄🙄

Anyway, goodnight or good morning lovely Babes!! It’s great to be “home” and I hope that I can catch up with you all eventually 😂

Much love,

Mouse xxx

MintToBee · 21/11/2018 07:40

Delurks and creeps on the bus to wave at you all.

Well my lovelies, it's fast coming up to Christmas and every advert and gift set seem to be set around booze.

Tis the season to be strong. I've now been AF for 11 months. My last drink was Christmas Day. I can't say that it's been easy. Its been bloody hard and difficult. This year has been a rollercoaster of emotions, culminating in my Mum dying recently and a relationship that's barely limping along. I constantly want to sink into a bottle of wine most days.

I honestly couldn't of done it without the constant support of all of you on this thread.

Here's a gratuitous Kitten photo to say thank you Grin

Brave Babes Battle Bus: Sunshine, Roses and Mocktails All Round
Duchessgummybuns · 21/11/2018 08:05

Hi mous sorry to hear (read) about your medical worries, hope the hospital get their acts together and you get some good news.

Mint 11 months is amazing well done! A “This time of year” without booze feels daunting but I’m sure I’ll cope, thanks for the kitten pic :)

As for me, day 4. Horrifically stressed and depressed but my period is due so that’s probs not helping. Went to another meeting last night and it was a different format but i told them all about the trouble alcohol has been getting me in (breaking bones, wandering off in blackout) and it was a relief to get it off my chest.

My scary day is Friday when it comes to alcohol cravings (also the day I have to see my ex husband for child handover, what a coincidence) but I have numbers to call and meetings to go to if it’s too much.

Have a good day all!

Craftycorvid · 21/11/2018 10:07

Hi, Mouse Sorry to hear of your health problems. Hope all goes well and that Jeff is listening (adopts Jeff immediately as non-denominational mascot).

Thanks for the kitten, Mint and stay strong, Duchess

Do we need an Xmas thread??

bingandflop · 21/11/2018 18:29

Hi everyone! I have lurked for months, maybe years and think i need to address the drinking. I just did a quiz on Facebook that said i am a 'high risk drinker', which apparently only applies to 1% of the female population.

Must not drink today - I usually do on Wednesdays by justifying that it is mid week. Won't tonight.

Thanks for reading x

Mouseface · 21/11/2018 22:15

Evening all. 😊

Tis' me Mouse.

Hello to any 'New' Babes and older!

Oh yes!! If it's okay with you all, I've already got a Christmas thread for the Bus this year! It's in my drafts ready for the end of this one.

Is that okay with you all? I know it's not my Bus or thread etc..... it's kind of a tradition that I love but it's fine if not. I plan to be around much more than I have been, again if that's ok. 😊😊😊

Happy belated Thanksgiving to any Babes from across the pond 😊

Mouse xxx

msmandolin · 22/11/2018 07:26

Hello brave babes!

I'm new, 2 weeks into sobriety, attending meetings but dealing with the most atrocious anxiety. Will anyone ever respect me again? Will I regain the trust of the people who just see me as an irresponsible drunk?

I hope so. Either way, sobriety is for me.

Duchessgummybuns · 22/11/2018 08:28

Hi all.

mandolin That anxiety gets to me too. I know I shouldn’t worry what other people think but I do.

Day 5. My boyfriend was vile to me last night, the latest in what is becoming more frequent psychological abuse and I’ve realised one of the reasons my drinking has spiralled out of control. I’ve asked him to leave.

I don’t want to be alone Sad I’m not going to drink though fuck that.

Craftycorvid · 22/11/2018 18:15

Hi, Mandolin you are working hard on the things you find hard and that deserves respect.

Well done for calling your boyfriend out on his abusive behaviour and asking him to leave. Flowers

Mouseface · 22/11/2018 20:55

Evening Babes!

Tis me, Mouse.** 😊

WARNING - GIANT POST ALERT!

Anxiety. It's horrific, frightening and feels like only YOU CAN FEEL IT 😢

When I first got onto Gerald (The Battle Bus!), I was too terrified to be honest. With the Babes and myself.

I asked "How much is too much?" (alcohol)

The reply went something like this - If you have to ask, you're drinking too much. And of course that was true but I wasn't quite ready to face my demons. I'd always self medicated using alcohol, whether it be a big event, meeting new people, stress, travelling, change, feeling down and wanting to be 'happy' ......... You name it, I drank just to get through it. Vodka was my poison of choice. Less chance of being caught out with a can of Diet Coke topped with vodka, much easier to conceal than a bottle of wine.

I just didn't know what else I could do so that I'd get past my nerves, anxiety and memories of the horrendous abusive relationship that I had been in, which still haunted me...... I was afraid of myself and how much I could drink and yet still function 'normally'. Except I knew that all I was doing was adding fuel to the fire. A fire that had to be put out!

The anxiety I felt at just the very thought of giving up drinking was so intense that I'd always start again next week, or the next Monday. Always tomorrow.

It wasn't until I had some routine bloods taken, that I truly understood the gravity of my situation. My liver is very badly scared from drinking, the markers in my blood were sky high and my liver function test was extremely poor.

"Diagnosis typically relies on laboratory tests of three liver enzymes: gamma–glutamyltransferase (GGT), aspartate aminotransferase (AST), and alanine aminotransferase (ALT). An elevated level of the liver enzyme GGT is another gauge of heavy alcohol use and liver injury."

That was a section of text in a leaflet that my GP gave me when he requested to see me urgently once my bloods were back. At first I thought he wanted to discuss something completely unrelated to my level of alcohol consumption but no. My skin was already showing signs of Jaundice, my eyes were constantly blood shot, my hair was dry, my nails brittle and breaking off, plus my complexion was changing before my eyes. The more I drank, The more ill I looked. That wasn't my wake up call.......

It wasn't until I'd gotten drunk one night and tried to pick Nemo up. He has Complex Special Needs and was only a baby, not even a year old and there was I trying to pick him up to soothe him, but Mr. Mouse managed to get there before me thankfully and told me a few pretty tough home truths, that made me realise just how sick I was. Knowing that I could have dropped him, fallen with him in my arms, THAT was my wake up call, my rock bottom. ☹️

I felt ashamed, embarrassed, terrified and utterly lost. That was the last time that I was drunk.

Nemo is 9 now and I can honestly say, finding another crutch as such, was the most frightening thing to me. But, with the support of my husband and GP, I did.

Distraction is my new weapon. I'm now extremely happy to be able to say "No thank you" as the wine gets passed around the table, or I can go out (once in a blue moon!) and not feel the need to drink to suppress what was really going on inside my head. Yes, my demons are still in my life, but I'm in a much stronger position to take back the control of my life now. I say if I would like a drink or not. I decide when I've had enough (which is 2/3 drinks over the course of an evening, rather than half a bottle of vodka BEFORE I even left the house!) and I decide what I drink too, which is usually a nice chilled fruit cider at 4.0% ABV as opposed to vodka, weighing in at 30+% ABV.

I hope that you don't think that I'm bragging about how I managed to take back the control over my drinking, I'm really not. Yes, I still get anxious and yes there are still utterly shite days when I want to hit the F&@K IT button and go to the shop but those episodes are way fewer and further apart than they've ever been, and I can honestly say that I've never regretted taking back control of my life for my own sake, and for that of my family. 😊

When anxiety attacks now, I use Mindfulness techniques to help calm me down and for me, that works!

So hang in there Babes, I know how hard going without a drink for even a minute can be when the cravings hit, or the washer breaks, or they don't have the brand of shampoo I use........

The little things all add up and before you know it, you've convinced yourself that "You've earned" a drink or seven because of X, Y, and Z. If you want to drink, you will, simply because you can.

There will always be a good reason in your mind to have a drink, at least until you find YOUR own rock bottom. And, because we're all at different stages of cutting down, or stopping completely or even not, and you're still drinking a bottle a night, sometimes more, you really are in the best place! SmileSmileSmile

At least one Babe on this Bus has been in your shoes right now so ask away! Post your feelings, no matter what's upsetting you enough to abuse alcohol, someone here will be able to relate to YOU, and the reverse. So please don't be worried about posting how much you REALLY drink or when you start etc, there are NO JUDGY PANTS ALLOWED! 😉

This Bus is so versatile that there's always going to be one person who will be nodding along as they read your posts. You CAN do this, with or without outside support (AA, GP etc) but you have to want it more than anything else. ** You have to be completely honest with yourself.

Sending much love to you all, regardless of where you are up to on your journey.

Mouse xxx 😊😊😊

Mouseface · 22/11/2018 21:00

Erm, the non bold text should be Bold and the bold text should be normal!! I've no idea why! 😂😂😂

Craftycorvid · 22/11/2018 21:32

Thank you, Mouse - that’s so powerful and inspiring.

And in my last posting I omitted to add Duchess to my last bit. Doh! Long day and all that

Duchessgummybuns · 23/11/2018 08:00

Thanks Mouse for sharing your story and well done for managing to take back control.

Thanks corvid also. Hopefully I won’t have to hand those flowers back...

Day 6. One day off my first goal. My boyfriend and I talked last night without anyone getting upset or angry. He has recognised that what he has been doing to me is abusive, and admitted that he has a lot of anger and frustration that he takes out on me because I’m there. He realises how fucked it is and has made a docs appointment for next week. I think he wants to change, I hope it does because I can’t go through this again.

I’m upset it’s taken him this long, there have been loads of incidents during our relationship where he talks to me like I’m a piece of shit, calls me names, mimics my voice. And he’s stone cold sober when he does it, it’s a conscious choice he makes to hurt me.

I became abusive towards him while blackout drunk last Saturday and the very next day I contacted A.A. He said he forgave me and that we all fuck up when drunk, then took his forgiveness back to try and excuse his own abuse.

My head is mashed. Please don’t tell me to LTB it’s not that easy. I hope that this time he’s serious, because I won’t be getting drunk anymore to give him any more excuses. Gonna call A.A. helpline today as Friday is my Fear day.

Sorry for the essay again, much love Babes! X

Craftycorvid · 23/11/2018 08:49

It’s emotional abuse, Duchess. If your boyfriend has now recognised it’s not OK for him to treat you like this, he needs to seek some help to address his own problems, as you are doing with yours.

Happy Friday, babes!

Duchessgummybuns · 24/11/2018 10:30

Day 7, my original goal. I thought I’d feel happy but I don’t. Alcohol is everywhere at the moment, I don’t want it but I also don’t want it thrust in my face at the end of every aisle at the supermarket. It just reminds me that I can’t handle my drink like a normal person and I feel like a loser.

I’m going to make cheesecake and eat my feelings. Love again to all, I think the weekends are the hardest for most x

Craftycorvid · 24/11/2018 10:49

It’s Fridays for me, Duchess. I want some cheesecake now...! Have a good weeknd, Babes.

GhostSauce · 25/11/2018 09:59

Hi All, may I climb aboard? I'm new, NC a lot because I'm active on another board.

I've been on a few penguin threads before for dry jan etc, but I've never committed to anything longer (and even then I've cheated).

Hit a low a couple weeks ago after drinking 2 bottles of red on my own on a Sunday night and then on trying to get up for work on Monday had to lie down on the floor in the shower and cry, I just couldn't stand up, and knew there was no way I was safe to drive to work so called in sick, lying about the reason of course.

Can't keep going like this. Has anyone genuinely thought they were going to die from being so hungover?

FiddleMeeDee · 25/11/2018 10:17

Can I join you? I don't think my drinking is a big problem, at least not yet anyway. If I drink at home, maybe once or twice a week at most, possibly more over Christmas, I'm fine. A couple of drinks, all fine. But if I go out, it's like I don't know how to not drink, or how to say no to drinks. I need a bit more self-control when socialising. I don't do anything bad, I feel a bit crap the next day, but I'd just like to rein it in a bit.

It's my 40th birthday party next weekend, in a bar. Any tips? I plan on keeping a glass of something non-alcoholic with me all the time. I'd like to not feel as shit next Sunday as I do today.

Duchessgummybuns · 25/11/2018 12:12

Hi Ghost and Fiddle welcome aboard. Afraid I’m not best placed to offer advice as I’m struggling a lot myself but hopefully one of the wiser babes might be along later.

Day 8. Going to the in laws. They’re big drinkers and have a bar in their house. I’m worried about how to decline drinks without them taking the piss. I’m also really really nervous and I would really like to have a drink. I’m trying CBD oil to settle my nerves but tbh I just want to cry.

GhostSauce · 25/11/2018 12:16

Hi Duchess, thanks for the welcome.

That sounds like a nightmare. Both sides of our family are boozy and I'm always the first to accept a drink or 5 so I'm sure at Christmas they're going to assume I'm pregnant. If I say I'm not drinking they'll be total twats to me.

Are you going to tell the truth or do the antibiotics line?

Craftycorvid · 25/11/2018 12:35

Hi, Ghost (are you a chilli fan, perchance?) Fiddle and Duchess. Crap, isn’t it? It’s been said that alcohol must be the only drug you have to apologise for not using. If friends and/or family take the piss because you aren’t drinking, most likely it’s because your choices challenge theirs. I’d be going with whatever strategy you feel up to using right now. If ‘I’m on meds’ gets you there, fine. It can take a lot - and invite a debate - to say you are choosing to abstain or cut down. I worried about what to say and then found lots of people just didn’t notice I was avoiding alcohol. The people I’ve told are those I trust to support me in my decision.

GhostSauce · 25/11/2018 12:43

Thanks Crafty, I am! Grin I'm new on the thread, what's your story?

I can't do the meds thing, they've seen me drink on all kinds of medications, my family would see through that. I'm thinking at Xmas I might just come out with it, say I'm cutting right down, and say I'd prefer it not to be made an issue.

I'm hoping if I come out and say I don't want a big discussion on it they'll leave me be. Hopefully they'll think back to previous Xmas days and be glad no one has to clean up my sick or carry me out to the car.

Duchessgummybuns · 26/11/2018 08:21

Well yesterday was horrible. My boyfriend told his parents we’ve given up the drink (he’s never been a big drinker and is quite supportive when he’s not being a cunt to me) and they initially said good for you, then it was “Oh Duchess doesn’t look as sure as you” “you need to exercise your pint hand Duchess” and “you’ve GOT to have a drink on Christmas.”

It was hell. Eventually they got pissed enough that they forgot and left me alone but I may as well have had the CBD oil on an IV drip. They have a bar in their house and sitting in there wasn’t bothering me, it was the badgering, because I’m no where near ready to tell anyone yet.

But I made it. On day 8. Love to all. Need to get through work after spending my day crying at my desk Thursday Sad

Craftycorvid · 26/11/2018 11:17

Hail, fellow Chilli head, in that case, Ghost Grin My story is that from around my late twenties to just under five months ago alcohol was pretty much part of daily life. I was using it to tune out disapointment, a job I disliked and a feeling I’d screwed up in life. I wasn’t at any point someone who looked drunk, acted it or turned up to work unable to function. Lots of people wouldn’t have noticed my relationship with alcohol was unhealthy. I didn’t have any sort of ‘rock bottom’ experience, but the rebound anxiety was getting worse and I realised I’m not someone who can moderate. Once I’ve started I don’t stop. Being AF has given me some much-needed head space though it’s uncomfortable at times! I’m a big believer in therapy and have found I’m getting more out of it now I stay with difficult feelings rather than medicating them.

Duchess - it sounds a tough one. Good on you for sticking to your guns.

dementedma · 26/11/2018 21:03

good to see mouse and mint on the bus, with all the fabulous new babes who have kept the bus going. Promise to try and get to know you all.
mint you are a fucking inspiration! Just had to say that.
tonight i am on the Island of Lewis. I drove down to Lukentyre beach on harris and sat on the white sand without a soul in sight and just....breathed. It's been tough recently . think of you all often.

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