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Cold feet about upcoming wedding... confusion and other man. Unusual relationship.

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MyFickleHeart · 06/02/2018 20:37

Hey there,
I read an amazing thread of similar topic here and was so grateful to hear the helpful advice from everyone so I thought I'd ask my questions here too. I have been engaged to my fiancé (BF of 4 years) for just over a year. We have recently moved into our first home (thanks to help from both of our parents) and got adorable cats we've been raising since kittens a year ago. I am a touring musician and my career has been picking up really heavily lately with my two touring original projects! At the same time I'm 33 (going on 34) and we're thinking about kids. My life dream has always been to take music as far as I can and I know that although I am fit and feel in the prime of my life, my music career also has an expiry in the capacity that I am doing it now. I have also always wanted children. I have had a lot of struggles with band dynamics (mental illness in two band members and serious health issues for them too) that have made it so heartbreakingly frustrating to move forward. Despite this, THIS YEAR my prayers were answered and my career is taking off! Both my bands got grants (against the odds) and have awesome albums out and tour opportunities. My band mates are on the road to recovery and I am thrilled to finally be living my life dream (somewhat unexpectedly). Unfortunately this has lead to some confusion of the heart.

My fiancé is a very sweet, gentle and supportive character. He came into my life when I wasn't looking at all for a partner... I had broken up with a great love of my life about 9 months prior and about to go on my first tour of Australia (I have now just finished my 4th). I have been a serial monogamist my whole life. I always feel good and happy with myself when I'm single and it feels right to dedicate my life to my art and personal health/growth. I am a romantic though and most of my partners have been adoring and kind men who were just not right for me in the end. I don't consider myself to have a fear of commitment, per se, just a fickle heart! I fall madly for them and then, over time the magic fades and either they, or I, find someone else who renews our passion and we part ways. I am guilty, often, of hanging on too long because I want to make them happy and meet their expectations. Also guilty of falling into resentment and dishonesty (though I'm not a cheater, I often get a wandering eye).

With my current fiancé (I have never been engaged previously) it seemed so perfect because he's so independent. He was only in open relationships before me and so when I said I wanted to be monogamous he was thrilled. He'd never had a long-term girlfriend beyond a few months (I can't imagine why, he's only 3 years younger than me and attractive/sweet). We talked about an open relationship early on and it made sense (arose totally organically) that we pursue that when I'm away on tour. I'm not overly promiscuous, I just actually feel guilty leaving him so often for so long and don't want him to resent me... I also get a wandering eye and it puts my heart at ease knowing that's "allowed". I have only ever thought about it, never taken advantage of our arrangement (until very recently) and he has been with people a couple of times. All of these compatibilities led me to the conclusion that he was the one for me. How else could I ever sustain any kind of long term relationship with anyone!? I need to feel free, yet need a home-base from which I can regenerate and create art. I love the consistency of having a caring partner at home, while also having the freedom to pursue my art without guilt. He wants kids, he's not in a rush, he's so even-keel and easy to be with - he makes me feel safe in my volatile artist's life. I have felt really set up for success!

OF COURSE there are many holes in my plan which have recently made themselves abundantly clear. Rewind the clock 4 years... my guy took me on our first date and it was to an underground rave where he got blitzed on drugs and my gut gave me a resounding NO. I told my band mates this "well, nope he's not the one for me, that's a relief" I didn't WANT to meet the one either. Then I went away on tour and crushed on him, then I came back and realized how totally sweet and considerate he was and gave him a second chance. He gently wooed me and made it so easy I couldn't resist.

Over the years our fire burned down to a slow simmer, I hear this is common (and has certainly been common for me). He has actually often been the one to withdraw from me in terms of sex, much to my frustration. It has become a two-way street, our sex life has ebbed to a mere 2 times per month average (often at least one of them I don't even orgasm, just do it more for him)... but we both enjoy cuddling and kissing and I kind of figured maybe that's fine. I am a very sexual person but my sex drive is very fickle and often dies after a couple of years with a partner. Also thought, maybe it's good for me to get a dose of my own medicine! I am usually the one who ends up pulling away. I have known I needed to work on it with him, talk about it... I've attempted to bring it up a few times to no real avail... but it's hard for me to talk about it and admittedly I'd just as soon let it slide most of the time and go on with our lives.

When he proposed, that day a year ago, I was annoyed with him. He was acting in that certain way that gets to me, all agitated and awkward, needing to have a smoke... I had somewhat guessed that he might be going there, it was Christmas eve and we had stayed in a hotel (on his mother's dime). She LOVES me and I love her back. She spoils us and truly treats me like part of the family. I feel so blessed. She wants us to have kids even more than we do (same with my parents). She has always been there behind the scenes helping him, giving him money on valentines or our anniversary, she's a real romantic! Sometimes I feel like I'm dating HER! And I admire her ability to make amazing things happen, she is truly impressive. His whole family feels so close to me. They feel like my family. I have many times been having doubts about our relationship, spent time with him and his family, and then felt like everything was going to be ok. Isn't that often the opposite of how things usually are!? Anyway it was Christmas eve and his whole family knew, probably even helped him organize it. A spa date, a glass of champaign. He asked me and I said yes. No tears, no butterflies... maybe even a slight sinking feeling. It was a practical choice. I couldn't bare to say no! Didn't feel compelled to do so either. I knew his whole family would be there that night, waiting to hear the news. I couldn't ruin Christmas! Also didn't feel sure one way or the other - I do love him, he does fit in my life very well. I figured love takes compromise and work, that's normal. He's the only one who has fit so easily in with my lifestyle and it has just flowed. Maybe true love is a lie, it all comes down to practicality.

So after all my ramblings (thanks for reading this far) here we are. I had told myself that if things didn't go well for my last two tours maybe it was time to make some changes. My fiancé has grown tired of my drama, feeling upset with my music career being so hard and us never having time or money to go on vacations. I'm in debt, I want to start a family one day, my time is running out! The last two tours just so happened to be the best of my life, and I can feel my career amping up more than ever and a deep desire to give it my all. Our wedding is supposed to be in 7 months and nothing is planned or booked yet. I just found out that I have the opportunity to tour Europe this Fall (a life dream of mine) and have begun booking my biggest tour of Canada yet. I feel like this is my shot!

On this last tour, I met with an old friend, near the end. We had always had a close bond and been affectionate with one another, in a totally plutonic way (though we had a certain special spark). He lives in Australia but I met him here, in Canada, just a little before I met my fiancé. At that time he was going through a bad breakup and I was still processing my last breakup so we just hung out and supported each other. He was very broken over her. He's a musician too - a brilliant one. Over the years we've kept in touch and always supported each other when in need, in the kindest and sweetest of ways. When I saw him that night in Melbourne, it was unexpected. I hadn't known if he'd make it to the show and had been focussed on everything else. I had hoped he would! When I saw him, got to hug him and be around him, I felt something strong I hadn't felt before. A powerful attraction. He felt it too. Fireworks. From then on I couldn't eat or sleep... I just wanted to talk to him and be close to him, as we often had done in the past - but now it felt different... I was definitely attracted to him. He is putting an album out too, one we had talked about years ago, now he's strong, happy and healthy. We ended up spending two magical days together and it was completely mind-blowingly amazing for both of us. The way we can talk to each other is something I have rarely experienced but there is also incredible fiery sexual chemistry and connection. Even though this was all technically within the consensual bounds of my relationship, it has completely thrown me for a loop. I feel I'm in love with my old friend. I feel like that must be crazy. I told my fiancé when I got home a few days later... I said I had been with someone and I told him who and how much and that I felt very connected to this old friend/now lover. He just smiled and shrugged it off "I'm glad he was good to you and that you had fun". I said... "thank you but, how do you feel about it that it might happen again - when I tour there again? I just feel a real connection to him, it was really nice" he said "as long as you're here, with me, in my bed, I am fine with that - I don't see him as a threat". At that point I bit my tongue, it was my fiancé birthday tomorrow, maybe this crazy love feeling will fade and I will come back to my senses. I recently bought a famous book on open relationships called "the ethical slut" and I told my fiancé I thought we should both read it and have more open conversations. That's where we left it. Since then I have talked to my old friend (we'll call him OF) every day, insatiably. We talk for hours, we just relive our encounter and old memories, want to know everything about each other and he's so unbelievable. He knew, that first night my situation with my fiancé... he asked before things got physical... he knows everything up to this point but I'm feeling terrible about my fiancé. I just feel like we need to postpone the wedding while I work out the mess of my emotions and focus on my career. He deserves better, he has been there for me in my dark/struggling times and now I feel he is not thriving with me, he has not made any real progress in his life. It's all so confusing. I'm sorry for the novel. This is complex. It helps me to write it all out. I know how selfish I sound and how opportunistic I've been. I have felt a distancing from my fiancé for some time but thought we should do some counselling (which he didn't think we needed) and things would work out. Relationships take work and aren't always amazing and fiery. I do love him, I am so afraid to leave him and upset the balance of our lives.

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Allthecoolkids · 06/02/2018 22:27

Please don’t have kids.

DontDIY · 06/02/2018 22:36

Give it up, OP. Don’t get married, not yet, not to your fiancé. That’s my hunch.

Just developed RSI in my scrolling thumb

MaybeDoctor · 06/02/2018 22:38

Don’t get married or have children with your fiancé. You are not suited.

Go on tour - that is where your passion lies.

See what happens with OF.

Yvonne1958 · 06/02/2018 22:42

Stop trying to dress this up as a complex situation.
It’s not, you’ve gone off your boyfriend.
You accepted his proposal because you like his family and you have a house together.
This is not a monogamous relationship, it’s an open one. You’ve met someone you “fancy more” and now want to move on.
Please do not get married or have children until you have learned that love doesn’t happen overnight. Initial attraction leads us into sexual relationships, love and trust are built over time.
Look at your history, you clearly state that you’re happy when you are single, your relationships fade once the “magic” has gone. TBH that’s the Dopamine wearing off.
BTW I didn’t think anyone “raised” kittens.

ICanTuckMyBoobsInMyPockets · 06/02/2018 22:50

Is this a cut and paste from Take A Break?

PickAChew · 06/02/2018 22:56

You should write a song about that.

But it's not a good idea to marry someone in a relationship that causes so much angst that you write a post so long and convoluted.

FrozenMargarita17 · 06/02/2018 22:58

TL;DR

apacketofcrisps · 06/02/2018 23:00

You must know the reaction you’re going to get here. Like marriage and normality aren’t ‘for’ a true free spirit like yourself eyes roll endlessly grow up is my best advice.

fruitbrewhaha · 06/02/2018 23:11

your fiance is not the only on tired of your drama.

It's all a bit me me me me.........I'm not sure your suited to marriage.

LizardMonitor · 06/02/2018 23:19

You can’t marry your DF.

You are focussed on and wrapped up in touring and your music dreams (which is great: go for it!), you can’t marry someone you have already stopped fancying, and you sound as if he is just your insurance policy.

Focus on your music, have your thing with OF.

You really do have several years before you need to think about kids.

fluffyrobin · 06/02/2018 23:22

You are far too cringingly self absorbed and selfishminded to be a parent in this stage in your life.

That's fine.

Enjoy touring, sleeping with whomever you're attracted to and being a free spirit.

Don't become a mother until you are tired of being self absorbed and selfish.

A child will demand 100% of you and more so may be you will want to explore that loving, selfless, giving side of being human one day, may be not.

Foofer · 06/02/2018 23:26

In your open relationship he has "been with people a couple of times" but between the two of you it's an average of twice a month? I know nothing of open relationships but personally that would sting a bit.

Hotdoggity · 06/02/2018 23:32

I feel like I just read free teen lit from Smash hits.
Everything is irrelevant apart from: I like a boy. He made me feel funny. I have got a fiancé at home and I feel sad.

Don't get married. Congratulations on your success and long may it continue - there's every chance it will not make you happy. People don't exist to prop up your identity - which, ironically, I got from this post. I think you need to believe a lot in your own importance to write a post like this.

FarmerSee · 06/02/2018 23:35

Bloody he'll, that was long winded! Sorry OP but I don't have the time to read your biography, but I gather from what I could muster the will to read, is...

You shouldn't marry
You shouldn't have kids

You're a dreamer and a wanderer with no real understanding of love, commitment, loyalty or responsibility - not a good mix for bringing up children or entering into marriage

You're rather self centred and wrapped up in your own little bubble. Which is fine. Go fulfill your dreams and ambitions. But don't drag a husband and children into the mix because you're in love with the idea of 'family'. It's not as romantic as your dreamers mind thinks it is and you'll end up disappointed and resentful.

Mintychoc1 · 06/02/2018 23:41

It sounds to me as if your lifestyle and personality isn't compatible with a committed monogamous relationship. I don't think you should get married. Apart from anything else, isn't one of the lines "forsaking all others"?

MyFickleHeart · 06/02/2018 23:45

Yes I know, I am self centred. I wish I wasn't but then again, most songwriters that you love and admire are/have been. It's this strong ego/belief in oneself mixed with obsession to perform and create that drives most of us. Combined with this lust for life and overactive romanticism - many of us can't hold down a relationship for long. Haha yes I know my post sounded like teen fiction and was way too long - thank you to those of you who took the time to sort through it anyway. I'm fairly out of sorts and just suddenly needed to get it all out in its entirety. It was pretty stream-of-consciousness.

Yes I realize I wasn't asking a direct question but you have answered it all the same. Actually it is a bit of a relief (and also very sad) many of you are telling me I'm too self-centred to have kids, this is a fear I've always had but I think you may be right - at least at this stage. Perhaps psychologically I am much younger than my years. I want to learn to be better. I do want to be a good person and do the right thing... it's only been a few days since all this happened. I realize I was kind of throwing myself to the wolves as this is whole "open relationship" thing really isn't the average situation, especially in these kinds of forums. It was my fiance's suggestion, on my first big tour he slept with someone else. Coincidentally, right before it happened I called him (as I was fantasizing about meeting up with a girl I'd been with once and didn't know what to do). He said "oh that's crazy timing, I'm just in a situation at festival where I'd really like to sleep with this girl and I wasn't sure what to do!". So, I granted him permission and never went with anyone myself until now. It was a lot to process and I think it was the beginning of the end. When I got home he seemed distant, less sexual towards me. We worked/talked through it and it got easier.

I guess I just needed someone unbiased to talk to to help me figure out how to deal with this. I do appreciate your comments, even when they sting a bit. I can be a lot of work, I know that, which is why I am better off on my own. It's just that I'm obsessed with my art and I get my blinders on about everything else. I just keep falling for these people so passionately - and they have so many amazing qualities I find it so hard to resist. I do want that dream, a family, a home... but I know that because I'm so driven and self-centred I'd need someone who can feel fulfilled being with a person like me, who also wants what I want. I thought I had found that... but I am just being selfish... He doesn't thrive when I thrive, he deserves better.

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greenlynx · 06/02/2018 23:54

What Mintychoc1 said ^.
It doesn't sound like you ready for marriage and having children. some people prefer stay single without any commitments and it's ok, just be honest about this.

MyFickleHeart · 07/02/2018 00:05

Yes I think you may be right. I had all along been saying that maybe we shouldn't even get legally married... so that wasn't decided yet. I mean, I've never totally understood the concept of marriage, knowing how people change. Just wanted to celebrate love and that we'd made it this far - you know? I brought up marriage 2 years ago and he really wasn't super into it at the time, his parents were divorced and remarried 3 times! I had secretly hoped that making that extra commitment and just CHOOSING someone who I knew was great, would smack some sense into me and help me just commit and stay committed through hard times. Hoped that we could then build a solid foundation for a family. I also thought that realistically maybe my music career wasn't going anywhere and it was time to change gears soon. I know those are probably a really immature ideas. At the end of the day, I am who I am.

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Viviennemary · 07/02/2018 00:07

Couldn't plough through that. And I usually do try with a long OP. Could you summarise. Anyway hope things work out.

sleepthenightaway · 07/02/2018 00:07

Jesus H Christ. That must be the longest OP I've ever not read. I always always read the really long OPs. This time? Nope. Waaay too self indulgent. I agree with whatever any sensible PPs suggested.

sleepthenightaway · 07/02/2018 00:09

Really. Use less words. Get to the point.

Talith · 07/02/2018 00:10

Read about half way down, so may have missed something but think your relationship has run its course.

Hotdoggity · 07/02/2018 00:11

It sounds like you make a lot of decisions with a view to changing your impulsivity - at least, ostensibly, but you might to recognise they're because of it. You can enforce momentous events on your life to change the way you are - it could work, but not without a lot of pain and heart ache and that's the kind of thing kids especially don't need.

FuckItPassMeTheWine · 07/02/2018 00:22

Echo @grunkle

MyFickleHeart · 07/02/2018 00:23

@Viviennemary Yes it is ridiculously long - there's no way to edit down the original post - oops sorry! Basically to summarize: I am a touring musician in an open relationship (only when I am on tour). My fiancé had been the only one to be with other people until recently. When I slept with someone I fell madly for them... I know this could just be my immaturity and overly dreamy nature. This all just happened a few days ago. I told my partner what had happened and he said he wasn't worried, just happy I was home. It's been eating me, I think I need to call off the wedding but it's just a hard conversation. I brought it up a bit last night that I thought we should postpone and he got really agitated. Understandably. I think we have a lot to work through if we're going to make this a sustainable relationship. As many above have said, perhaps I am not capable of that (at least right now, while my career seems to be taking off)! I am so sad - I feel so guilty and I don't want to hurt him. He's been good to me, I've been selfish.

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