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DP's "friend" - long and rambly sorry.

121 replies

MoaneyBoney · 04/02/2018 14:37

When I first started dating DP he mentioned he had a female friend and he really hoped he could continue the friendship if we became more serious as previous girlfriends had made that impossible. I took this information at face value and said it's nice to have platonic friends of the opposite sex etc etc.

As we continued dating bits of further info were drip fed. Here are few bits of info:

  • they have slept together on and off in the past
  • he's had romantic feelings for her
  • she kept him "on the hook" for years
  • he's put her before other GFs taking her to see a comedian
  • their regular meet ups were always in his house or her car (for drives out)
  • their "friendship" doesn't seem to continue well if either of them are in relationships
  • DP had asked her if she wanted to date him at a point when they were both single and she turned him down (I think more than once)
  • when we set our facebook profiles to being in a relationship with each other she was apparently quite upset with him!
Hmm

We also had a xmas where he'd been seeing her less and she bought him a pointed xmas gift which referenced how they had met oh so long ago, after him saying that in previous years he'd either not received a gift or received something impersonal. It felt like a passive aggressive neon sign on his mantelpiece.

When we moved in together I eventually laid all this out on the table and told him he'd hidden the nature of their "friendship", that I would NOT have been as okay with the situation given all the info and that I was not happy with the situation eg them meeting up for cosy movie nights etc. I questioned why they never met up out of the house for a coffee, or with other friends, or why I'd met every one of his other friends but not this one.

He said he understood why I felt uncomfortable. That was about a year and a half ago. Since then as far as I know they've not met up but have had the odd message exchange.

So not to the present. Last night DP said "friend" is moving out of town soon to move in with her current boyfriend and that he'd like to meet up and have a catch up with her before she moves.

I feel like he's still carrying a torch for her, they have a sexual history and attraction and affection. I think in a way it's worse than an actual ex you've been in a relationship with as this friend has never actually committed to a relationship with him so it's like what could have been / unfinished business. From what I can gather they've been friends with the odd few spates of friends with benefits in the mix (until DP has asked for more and been rebuffed). I'm not sure when they actually met but I gather they've been doing this friends, sex partners, not friends, friends merry go round for about a decade!!!

I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts on this. I'm not a jealous person by nature. DP has tonnes of male and female friends and often socialises without me (as do I with my friends who all just happen to be female). I went to bed with a pit of worry in my stomach and woke up with the same feeling.

OP posts:
Offred · 04/02/2018 15:52

Honestly, although it is hard I would recommend leaving.

He’s started a number of relationships without dealing with this infatuation.

An infatuation like this is ALWAYS going to be more attractive and exciting than any LTR.

If you stay with him every time things are hard or boring there is a risk an infatuation will pop up either with her or someone else.

This is what commonly happens with people who prioritise fantasy over reality.

Lovely456 · 04/02/2018 15:52

Agree with Ofred, I dont know why you bother with him tbh, It cant make you feel great when you know hes always held a torch for someone else.
Honestly I would end it, But then tbf I would have ended it ages ago.

Offred · 04/02/2018 15:53

Bluntness, I would agree if this was a friendship. It’s not IMO, it’s an infatuation. And infatuation that has already been repeatedly prioritised over other real relationships.

AnyFucker · 04/02/2018 15:54

Anybody whose ( completely avoidable) behaviour makes you feel lesser than yourself does not deserve a place in your life.

Offred · 04/02/2018 15:55

The only way anybody could be confident with a person like this is if they had realised it was an infatuation not a friendship and they had put work in to their feelings/behaviour over it for themselves.

Offred · 04/02/2018 15:57

(Preferably before starting a relationship with someone else, and you are not the first girlfriend to have been put in competition with fantasy girl by him)

Graphista · 04/02/2018 15:59

Nothing happening physically is irrelevant - sorry op but he's in love with her and always will be.

That's why all the other gf dumped him.

3 years and you've NEVER met her - totally unacceptable.

The Xmas gift was her pissing on 'her' territory - him. She's already seen off others and is confident she can see you off too.

You will never be a priority for him. Flowers

Bluntness100 · 04/02/2018 16:00

And infatuation that has already been repeatedly prioritised over other real relationships

But it's not been prioritised over this relationship. Not even slightly, In fact it's very clear he has put the op first. This is a one off where he wants to say goodbye before she goes. I would not end this relationship over this one evening and I'm surprised folks are telling her to.

MoaneyBoney · 04/02/2018 16:01

When we first started dating I'd say I was fairly normal and laid back, not overly needy etc. As we grew more serious and my relationship grew deeper I also gradually found out more about their backstory so to speak.

If I'd known in the beginning I'd have pointed out the unfinished business of it, and how unhealthy that was. Sadly by the time I realised I was in deep.

I can't just leave. We share a house. A house my asd child lives in and that I work from. I'm not going to just walk out.

I do think I need to be having another talk about the whole thing though. I'd love to be able to be all cool and laid back and let him go to meet without saying a word but I don't think that would be halthy for me emotionally.

OP posts:
Bluntness100 · 04/02/2018 16:01

Graphista what a nasty horrible uncalled for post.

Offred · 04/02/2018 16:03

Yes it has. The actual reality of the ‘friendship’ was concealed in order to protect it from the threat of the OP.

He has kept fantasy girl hidden and allowed territorial behaviour like the Christmas present and is still communicating with her and still wants to see her.

This is developing a ‘I’m only not seeing you because Moaney is a bitch’ dynamic.

He is loyal to fantasy girl first.

Offred · 04/02/2018 16:12

It’s pretty simple really. He is a cake eater.

He wants to have a nice safe family life and an exciting infatuation.

MoaneyBoney · 04/02/2018 16:13
Sad
OP posts:
MoaneyBoney · 04/02/2018 16:14

I'm going to step away for a little while but I'll be back online later.

OP posts:
Bluntness100 · 04/02/2018 16:16

This is developing a ‘I’m only not seeing you because Moaney is a bitch’ dynamic

Oh my god.😱

Op, I'd have this deleted if I was you. I don't think you're going to get any help. Some people want to hurt you and see uou end it. I'm sorry, but this isn't going to be someplace you can get help.

Offred · 04/02/2018 16:18

Flowers It’s horrible, but you are right being laid back and cool about being treated so disrespectfully would not be emotionally healthy.

Insomeotheruniverse · 04/02/2018 16:18

It sounds like he has unfinished business with this friend of his. It sounds messy and complicated and not something I would put up with.

Why would you want to act ‘all cool and laid back with it’? Your spidey senses are tingling for a reason.

You have a choice. Either put up with him meeting this girl in the future or get out of the relationship. It doesn’t sound like he’s going to stop seeing her or having contact with her so if it’s something that makes you unhappy then you need to walk away.

Lovely456 · 04/02/2018 16:19

Bluntness I dont agree, I think looking at the facts that op has given its how her situation is , I dont think people are meaning to be horrible, I think its just how this situation seems.

Its a shit situation, But its what op is putting up with so it will never get better unfortunately.

BerylStreep · 04/02/2018 16:19

Do you have the sort of relationship where you could discuss with him that it seems as if he is her 'Plan B', and actually, for you, he is your 'Plan A'. Ask him to honestly talk about how he feels about her dangling his unrequited feelings in front of him over the years.

I don't think you can say not to go - and in fact he may be wanting to go to wish her well, and to sever the connection.

Offred · 04/02/2018 16:22

Oh give over bluntness, some people disagree with you is all...

‘Some people want to hurt you’ 🙄

He is only not seeing fantasy girl because OP doesn’t like it, he is not not seeing her because he doesn’t want to. This is inevitably going to create a ‘moaney is a bitch for stopping us being together’ dynamic, even if moaney has never even once said to him ‘stop seeing her’, even if it is him that decided he could continue having fantasy girl and moaney if he just reduced fantasy girl to texting all by himself...

That is how these things go when someone is ‘doing this for you’...

If you would be fine with this, your choice but people who disagree with you are not ‘trying to hurt’ OP.

Graphista · 04/02/2018 16:37

Bluntness - given how abrupt YOUR posting style can be that's hypocritical at best.

If anything I'm wanting op NOT to get hurt. The longer she's with this man who yes I honestly believe is in love with someone else, the more hurt she's gonna be when it does end.

I've had an experience almost exactly like this except I discovered how deep the emotions between them were before we got serious so I was lucky. They're now together, married.

Op also has a vulnerable child that needs to be considered here.

Mary1935 · 04/02/2018 16:40

His friend isn't nice. I'd be concerned (sorry)that they may sleep together before she goes. You've never met her? She's never been to your house? I don't know what I'd do but I may ask him to move out for a bit to give you time to think.
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MaisyPops · 04/02/2018 16:49

His friend isn't nice. I'd be concerned (sorry)that they may sleep together before she goes
That would be my concern too.
(And too often on these type of threads I end up being called the 'cool wife' insult for being fine with opposite sex friendships).

On an optimistic notr, it could be that he downplayed the friendship because he wants your relationship and doesn't want his friendship to be an issue.

Either way, she does sound a bit off. I have a male friend whose wife hated me for years (so much so that other people picked up on the evils in public company when i was with DH- then DP). I never so much as gave him a birthday card in that time because my primary concern was hoping she'd finally realise that I'm not a threat. I don't like her actions.

Offred · 04/02/2018 16:54

Yes, ditto. I am usually a staunch defender of opposite sex friendships.

I don’t see this as a friendship though.

petbear · 04/02/2018 17:27

PMSL at @Bluntness100 's posts! 😂😂 She always says stuff like this. Stuff like she would be fine with her man (if she had one) sleeping naked next to a strange woman, as they would 'just be keeping each other warm.' And any woman who isn't OK with her man doing it, is a clingy, pathetic, irrational, insecure little wumman whose gonna drive her man away! She loves to try and make women feel stupid for feeling upset and insecure, or wanting a man to treat her well.

Don't take any notice OP. You have every right to be pissed off.

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