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He left because of my anxiety...opinions needed!

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longstockingjayne · 31/01/2018 12:00

Hi Everyone,

So I'm struggling with a recent break up (it’s been nearly 2 weeks) and I need some advice on whether this is all my fault due to having anxiety. I'm really beating myself up, we have a lot of history so I'm going to write it as a timeline as I feel the details of our past are important. Sorry it’s really long!

August 2012 - We started our relationship (him 20, me 23). The relationship was wonderful, fell in love very quickly he was an amazing and loving boyfriend.

May 2013 - He cheated on me drunkenly on a night out (went back to somebody's house and went as far as you can go without having sex). He didn't tell me but I have my suspicions at this point, I ask him the question and he completely denies.

October 2013 - I find an email on his phone to a girl he has been talking to on a video chat site. I confront him, he apologises, says it was a onetime blip. I forgave.

June 2014 - Relationship is good (I still don't know about the cheating in May but my anxiety about it has grown consistently, I think about it pretty much every day but tell myself I’m being stupid. We've had numerous conversations but he completely denies that anything happened). I take it that there's something wrong with me and we move in together, I feel happy.

July 2014 - He goes on a boys holiday and whilst he’s away I find conversations on his laptop from the early days of our relationship where he has been on Skype webcam chatting to girls inappropriately and sending them inappropriate images. When he gets home I confront him and he says he was stupid, he hasn’t done it in ages, it meant nothing and it was a substitute for porn. I forgive.
My anxiety over the cheating incident in May 2013 then heightens ALOT to the point where I feel I need to go to the doctors, he still denies.

October 2014 - One day I come in from work and tell him that I know he's cheated, he confesses to the May 2013 cheating and then a few days later also confesses to kissing 2 girls on holiday and attempting to kiss another.

I'm understandably absolutely devastated, having just moved in together my whole world has come tumbling down. You may think I was silly for moving in with him but at that point I was being told he'd done nothing wrong and believed it was all in my head.

I speak with my family who know him well, they advise me to stay with him due to the May 2013 being so long ago and to not let the meaningless holiday kisses break us. I don't think they quite understand the extend of the lies he told me about the May 2013 cheating (he told me hundreds of times that he hadn't cheated and watched me get very poorly) but they advised that he obviously didn't want to lose the relationship over a meaningless one night thing.
I stay with him for the next year, he was unbelievably remorseful and apologetic and went above and beyond to make it up to me and truly believed he loved me very much. But I found it very hard, I became very untrusting, looking in his Facebook, phone, wanting password etc. We had some lovely moments in this year but always tinged with a bit of sadness.

October 2015 - He left me saying that he couldn't do it anymore. I was devastated. Within a month or so of me pretty much hounding him he deletes me off everything and wants nothing to do with me.

April 2016 – We ended up speaking over text and he mentions that he needs to talk to me. He comes to my house and confesses his love, says he wants me back and he wants our old life back, he’s very emotional. He is seeing somebody from work at this point but its early days.

I say that I'll think about it but that he needs to call it off with the other girl. He doesn't do it straight away and I get quite upset and mad at this which pushes him away again.

April 2016 to July 2016 – In these 4 months he can't decide what he wants (a relationship with me or something new with the girl from work). He goes back and forth between us a few times. Calling it off with her and then coming back to me and so on. This happened 4 times in total.

August 2016 - He finishes work girl for good and we 'see how it goes' for a month. He's reluctant to say that he definitely wants a relationship with me and just wants to see how he feels. Just writing this makes me realise how ridiculous it was for me to go along with it. I should have told him where to go and come back if he decides for sure. He's off and distant with me at times, I never know what he’s thinking and I feel very insecure.

September 2016 - he ends it saying he's not in a position to put his all into the relationship.

April 2017 - We see each other in a local pub and he texts me when home. He wants to make it work again. I said I would meet up with him to talk.

We met up and he was very genuine. Apologised whole heartedly for everything that had gone on (bear in mind we’re a bit older now and more mature) and said he finally knows what he wants and that he’s sorry it took him a while to get there. He said he hadn’t been in a good place the previous time but was happy now, except there was me missing.

I agreed to see how I felt.

Well from then on I was completely woo’d - I got concert tickets bought for me, flowers on my door step, presents, love letters and lots of other thoughtful lovely things. It was lovely and he did everything that it took to make me see that he was genuine and wanted this.

We began a relationship and I was happy. He lied to me quite incessantly about a few things I asked him about the time we were apart (I wanted to know when the last time was he’d slept with someone before we got back together and if he’d slept with a mutual friend of ours that I’d had suspicions of, they were the only things I wanted to know). He lied a lot until he eventually confessed, this didn’t get us off to a good start. My family advised to ignore these silly lies as they’re about stuff when we were single which we shouldn’t have been talking about anyway. He said to me he thought I may not want him if I knew the truth.

Then a few months after this I started to develop what I can only describe as horrendous anxiety. I somehow convinced myself that since we got back together there was something to hurt me/something I didn’t know/something he was lying to me about. I never ever brought up the previous cheating in our first relationship nor did I talk about any of the girls he’d slept with in the break up, it was just an over whelming fear that there was something in this relationship that would hurt me.

I would get so worked up I’d feel sick to my stomach but kept telling myself it was my anxiety and I needed some help with it. I went to the doctors and got some tablets and tried some over the phone counselling which was a bit rubbish.

It got to the point where perhaps 2/3 times a week I was asking him whether there was something to hurt me/something had happened/ had he kisses someone on a night out. I would never be mean/shout or argumentative more very fearful in how I was saying it but I still think it verged on a little abusive the amount of times I was asking. But it was just eating me up inside so I felt I had to speak about it.
He was extremely reassuring at first and very very patient which I appreciated a lot. He swore down on family members lives he hadn’t put a foot out of line, which looking back I firmly believe, but at the time I just could not get it out of my head.

If I had my rationale head on I knew there was nothing to worry me but if I was ‘in one’ it was all consuming.

So much so that he ended it 2 weeks ago (just after I’d been to the doctors and been referred for in person councelling so I was genuinely starting to see the light). I told him anxiety was treatable and asked if he could bare with me until after my treatment. He said he knows I’ll get better but he’s ‘scarred’ by all the questioning and doesn’t want it anymore. To be fair to him he did put up with it for around 5 months and put up with A LOT.

I now feel awful that I pushed him away like that when we finally had a shot at being happy.

I guess I’m just writing on here to get some outside perspective, I lived through all of the above so it’s hard for me to see it clearly. I feel like I ruined a chance to be happy with the person I love after we’d finally grew up and put all of the rubbish behind us.

Looking back I don’t think he’d done anything to hurt me in this relationship nor do I think he would have done anything going forward. But he just doesn’t want the relationship no matter how much I tell him that I just needed some outside help with my underlying issues.

Any opinions welcome and sorry it’s so long! Has anyone been through anything remotely similar?

OP posts:
Alison100199 · 31/01/2018 12:03

You poor thing. No wonder you're anxious. He's been awful and it's not your fault. Please forget about him and move on. You're very young and it will get better.

QueenAravisOfArchenland · 31/01/2018 12:06

Forget all the whys and whose fault this is and whether your anxiety was justified and whether he had really changed (spoiler: no).

You need to look back at this whole sorry history and realise that the two of you just don't work together. He is unreliable and selfish and this relationship makes you anxious and miserable. It doesn't matter whose fault or whether your anxiety was ok . What matters is that you need to be apart from him, because being with him is bad for you, and no wonder, because he is a bad'un.

Please focus on getting yourself well and let this relationship be.

Pidlan · 31/01/2018 12:08

He is scarred?
He's an arsehole, love. You deserve so much more than someone who has lied to you repeatedly over many years. Your family should be telling you to run for the hills- I don't get why they're not.

AmberTopaz · 31/01/2018 12:12

OP, I think you need to get yourself well and get treated for your anxiety while you are not in a relationship with such a complicated back story. I don’t think you’ll ever be able to fully trust him due to what’s gone on in the past. Don’t think in terms of blame (did I push him away? etc), as that thought process is not helpful to your recovery. It sounds like the two of you have split up and got back together so many times that it’s tine to call it a day. When you are in a better place for a relationship and your anxiety is more manageable, you will be able to make a fresh start with someone else.

I hope things work out for you Flowers

ALittleBitConfused1 · 31/01/2018 12:18

I'm exhausted just reading that.
It's quite simple he affects your mental health, that is the one and only reason you should be ending this relationship.
Do not waste the best years of your life on a toxic relationship.

f83mx · 31/01/2018 12:19

Do you have anxiety in other areas other than him/relationships? If so worth continuing to seek help/counselling.

But - is there any surprise you've had particular anxiety/paranoia over him? No he cheated on you from the start of the relationship, lied about it - pretty difficult to turn those emotions off when you've been proved right. I'd really try and move on from him, he doesn't sound ready to give the commitment you want.

calmandbright · 31/01/2018 12:19

Fucking hell no wonder you’re anxious - he’s given you every reason to be! Wanker! You’re well rid. Believe me, a little short term heartbreak will save a bucketload further down the line (when he cheats again and again). Be kind to yourself (hate that phrase but you know what I mean) Flowers

Bluntness100 · 31/01/2018 12:19

I agree, allocating blame is pointless.

In the first relationship he behaved terribly, lying and cheating.

This led to you behaving badly in the second, incessantly questioning him, etc, for example you should not have been questioning him about who he slept with when single. It's out of line. However it was due to mental health issues.

The two of uou don't work, I would also recommend you put this behind you and focus on getting healthy again.

SandyY2K · 31/01/2018 12:22

I don't understand why your family have such low standards and encouraged you to continue with the relationship.

The guy is too immature for a committee relationship.... he's only going to feel tied down and you're best putting it down to experience and moving on. He broke your trust repeatedly.

bibliomania · 31/01/2018 12:23

Far too much drama. You're not good for each other. I don't think he treated you well, but I also think there is some learning you can do from this relationship too.

Offred · 31/01/2018 12:25

You never had a shot of being happy with him. He is superficial, immature, disloyal and selfish.

Your anxiety was a result of you not being truthful with yourself about his character IMO.

Once you had gone against your own interests and with his expectations a few times you had retrained your brain to not see you as important and to confuse drama and lies with love and passion hence anxiety and being drawn to reconnect with him.

I think counselling might help bring you more into the reality that this guy was a bad guy who did a number on you, destroyed your self worth and made you emotionally dependent on him.

paddlingwhenIshouldbeworking · 31/01/2018 12:27

Sorry I only got as far as October 2013 and realised this break up was NOT to do with your anxiety.

Quartz2208 · 31/01/2018 12:28

Its too toxic, a relationship where someone lies and leaves at a drop of a hat is not good for anyone's anxiety!

Move on and find a better relationship one that is not that much hard work (it should not be)

EEandEmakes3 · 31/01/2018 12:32

Your situation proves the saying; 'Before you write yourself off as suffering from depression or anxiety, check that you haven't surrounded yourself with arseholes'.

He's an arsehole!

longstockingjayne · 31/01/2018 12:50

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longstockingjayne · 31/01/2018 13:02

Thank you all so much, just writing it all done was quite therapeutic and made me realise how much there has been!

@pidlan and @SandyY2K - now they're telling me I can do better. Before they were just being supportive in my decision to stay with him

@f83mx - I have small bits of anxiety in other areas but 90% relationship anxiety. I am still going to seek councelling as I'm concerned that the issues I've faced in this relationship may continue into others

@bluntness100 - I agree I was terribly in the wrong there. I think I was worried about looking like a fool after everything that had gone on. I didn't want to feel that he'd been seeing other girls right up until the point of talking to me (turns out he had) and looking like a bigger fool. I guess I just wanted to know how it appeared to other people.

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TheCaptainsCat · 31/01/2018 13:09

He has treated you terribly. Get help with your anxiety and move on with your life without him - it will be better.

theboud · 31/01/2018 13:13

I think it would be good to seek help for your anxiety. From what you’ve written I’d be concerned that the anxiety has contributed to you putting up with this loser and enabled him to manipulate you. Best luck for the future.

user33 · 31/01/2018 13:28

OP I can 100% relate to your situation. The cheating the coming back and forth, the manipulation and lies, the moving in everything. Similar time frames too.

Me and my ex broke up nearly 2.5 years ago and I still havent moved forward instead back. The same effort and false promises were made and I always forgave and tried again. Who doesn't want a happy ending? But that'll never happen. The moment you forgave him for his second mistake is the moment he lost all respect for you and your needs. He knows he can do whatever and come back when it suits him..its the easy way out to run away from it.

Take my advise please OP dont waste any more time. Block him go NC..the first few weeks will be hell and you'll second guess yourself but hes effecting your mental health. I'm on day one again after my ex coming back and him messing up again. I would do anything to go back to the happy times but I constantly found myself stalking his Social Media, phone bills, email accounts and it wasnt healthy and still isnt. I feel like someones chucked a book against my chest but I also know this feeling will eventually go. He may or may not have been a bad guy, i dont believe my ex was a bad guy, but i believe he wanted better and was never committed to making me happy and his priority. The thing that done it for me today was I realised he doesn't love me. That love is gone and he's a changed guy. I think by the sounds of what you've written your ex is also a very changed guy from the one your in love with. Were blinded by the good and seem to forget and forgive the bad.

A supportive partner will stand by you when your going through anything, anxiety depression literally everything. When you have kids and are suffering from any health problems do you believe he'll stick by you? I chased a relationship that died years ago thinking i wont find anyone. I may actually never but time will only tell. And anything is better than putting yourself through this mental torture and heartbreak. It wont be easy and nothing will really help get over this but time. Time and patience is the key as painful as that is x

longstockingjayne · 31/01/2018 13:29

Thank you for the advice.
I guess what I struggle with most is that he's not actually a bad guy. He was very kind, loving, sensitive, attentive, would always have heaps of time to spend with me and would do anything for me. So I guess I feel like have I pushed a good guy away who just made a few young immature mistakes?
It's something I really struggled with in the last break up and this one.

OP posts:
user33 · 31/01/2018 13:30

And you are not to blame! He was a coward and you did nothing wrong but gave it your all. You need help with your anxiety from all the pain hes caused you but there is nothing wrong with you as a person and a partner, you sound lovely. He's made you into this and made you believe you need help!

paddlingwhenIshouldbeworking · 31/01/2018 13:33

No no no! Some relationships aren't meant to be. This one didn't leave either of you feeling great for whatever reason, therefore it doesn't work.

Sad, very painful (have been there) and heartbreaking but really...from the benefit of age (late 40's) and watching so many people struggle in relationships that should never have made it out of the starting gate, this is not a love story you want to hang onto.

AJPTaylor · 31/01/2018 13:34

Your anxiety is caused largely by his behaviour

My dd your age had terrible anxiety and was on tablets. It improved hugely once she had properly left idiot boyfriend.
You deserve better. Probably age difference is bigger than it seems. But get over him and find someone better

Cockmagic · 31/01/2018 13:36

He's an idiot and clearly doesn't care about you seen as though he's trying to fuck anything that moves...

Get rid!

Viviennemary · 31/01/2018 13:39

You both need to move on to new relationships rather than agonising over the past. It just didn't work out and you are both young still. He shouldn't have cheated but he was quite young at the time. And your constant questioning about what he did when you had split up didn't help matters.