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He left because of my anxiety...opinions needed!

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longstockingjayne · 31/01/2018 12:00

Hi Everyone,

So I'm struggling with a recent break up (it’s been nearly 2 weeks) and I need some advice on whether this is all my fault due to having anxiety. I'm really beating myself up, we have a lot of history so I'm going to write it as a timeline as I feel the details of our past are important. Sorry it’s really long!

August 2012 - We started our relationship (him 20, me 23). The relationship was wonderful, fell in love very quickly he was an amazing and loving boyfriend.

May 2013 - He cheated on me drunkenly on a night out (went back to somebody's house and went as far as you can go without having sex). He didn't tell me but I have my suspicions at this point, I ask him the question and he completely denies.

October 2013 - I find an email on his phone to a girl he has been talking to on a video chat site. I confront him, he apologises, says it was a onetime blip. I forgave.

June 2014 - Relationship is good (I still don't know about the cheating in May but my anxiety about it has grown consistently, I think about it pretty much every day but tell myself I’m being stupid. We've had numerous conversations but he completely denies that anything happened). I take it that there's something wrong with me and we move in together, I feel happy.

July 2014 - He goes on a boys holiday and whilst he’s away I find conversations on his laptop from the early days of our relationship where he has been on Skype webcam chatting to girls inappropriately and sending them inappropriate images. When he gets home I confront him and he says he was stupid, he hasn’t done it in ages, it meant nothing and it was a substitute for porn. I forgive.
My anxiety over the cheating incident in May 2013 then heightens ALOT to the point where I feel I need to go to the doctors, he still denies.

October 2014 - One day I come in from work and tell him that I know he's cheated, he confesses to the May 2013 cheating and then a few days later also confesses to kissing 2 girls on holiday and attempting to kiss another.

I'm understandably absolutely devastated, having just moved in together my whole world has come tumbling down. You may think I was silly for moving in with him but at that point I was being told he'd done nothing wrong and believed it was all in my head.

I speak with my family who know him well, they advise me to stay with him due to the May 2013 being so long ago and to not let the meaningless holiday kisses break us. I don't think they quite understand the extend of the lies he told me about the May 2013 cheating (he told me hundreds of times that he hadn't cheated and watched me get very poorly) but they advised that he obviously didn't want to lose the relationship over a meaningless one night thing.
I stay with him for the next year, he was unbelievably remorseful and apologetic and went above and beyond to make it up to me and truly believed he loved me very much. But I found it very hard, I became very untrusting, looking in his Facebook, phone, wanting password etc. We had some lovely moments in this year but always tinged with a bit of sadness.

October 2015 - He left me saying that he couldn't do it anymore. I was devastated. Within a month or so of me pretty much hounding him he deletes me off everything and wants nothing to do with me.

April 2016 – We ended up speaking over text and he mentions that he needs to talk to me. He comes to my house and confesses his love, says he wants me back and he wants our old life back, he’s very emotional. He is seeing somebody from work at this point but its early days.

I say that I'll think about it but that he needs to call it off with the other girl. He doesn't do it straight away and I get quite upset and mad at this which pushes him away again.

April 2016 to July 2016 – In these 4 months he can't decide what he wants (a relationship with me or something new with the girl from work). He goes back and forth between us a few times. Calling it off with her and then coming back to me and so on. This happened 4 times in total.

August 2016 - He finishes work girl for good and we 'see how it goes' for a month. He's reluctant to say that he definitely wants a relationship with me and just wants to see how he feels. Just writing this makes me realise how ridiculous it was for me to go along with it. I should have told him where to go and come back if he decides for sure. He's off and distant with me at times, I never know what he’s thinking and I feel very insecure.

September 2016 - he ends it saying he's not in a position to put his all into the relationship.

April 2017 - We see each other in a local pub and he texts me when home. He wants to make it work again. I said I would meet up with him to talk.

We met up and he was very genuine. Apologised whole heartedly for everything that had gone on (bear in mind we’re a bit older now and more mature) and said he finally knows what he wants and that he’s sorry it took him a while to get there. He said he hadn’t been in a good place the previous time but was happy now, except there was me missing.

I agreed to see how I felt.

Well from then on I was completely woo’d - I got concert tickets bought for me, flowers on my door step, presents, love letters and lots of other thoughtful lovely things. It was lovely and he did everything that it took to make me see that he was genuine and wanted this.

We began a relationship and I was happy. He lied to me quite incessantly about a few things I asked him about the time we were apart (I wanted to know when the last time was he’d slept with someone before we got back together and if he’d slept with a mutual friend of ours that I’d had suspicions of, they were the only things I wanted to know). He lied a lot until he eventually confessed, this didn’t get us off to a good start. My family advised to ignore these silly lies as they’re about stuff when we were single which we shouldn’t have been talking about anyway. He said to me he thought I may not want him if I knew the truth.

Then a few months after this I started to develop what I can only describe as horrendous anxiety. I somehow convinced myself that since we got back together there was something to hurt me/something I didn’t know/something he was lying to me about. I never ever brought up the previous cheating in our first relationship nor did I talk about any of the girls he’d slept with in the break up, it was just an over whelming fear that there was something in this relationship that would hurt me.

I would get so worked up I’d feel sick to my stomach but kept telling myself it was my anxiety and I needed some help with it. I went to the doctors and got some tablets and tried some over the phone counselling which was a bit rubbish.

It got to the point where perhaps 2/3 times a week I was asking him whether there was something to hurt me/something had happened/ had he kisses someone on a night out. I would never be mean/shout or argumentative more very fearful in how I was saying it but I still think it verged on a little abusive the amount of times I was asking. But it was just eating me up inside so I felt I had to speak about it.
He was extremely reassuring at first and very very patient which I appreciated a lot. He swore down on family members lives he hadn’t put a foot out of line, which looking back I firmly believe, but at the time I just could not get it out of my head.

If I had my rationale head on I knew there was nothing to worry me but if I was ‘in one’ it was all consuming.

So much so that he ended it 2 weeks ago (just after I’d been to the doctors and been referred for in person councelling so I was genuinely starting to see the light). I told him anxiety was treatable and asked if he could bare with me until after my treatment. He said he knows I’ll get better but he’s ‘scarred’ by all the questioning and doesn’t want it anymore. To be fair to him he did put up with it for around 5 months and put up with A LOT.

I now feel awful that I pushed him away like that when we finally had a shot at being happy.

I guess I’m just writing on here to get some outside perspective, I lived through all of the above so it’s hard for me to see it clearly. I feel like I ruined a chance to be happy with the person I love after we’d finally grew up and put all of the rubbish behind us.

Looking back I don’t think he’d done anything to hurt me in this relationship nor do I think he would have done anything going forward. But he just doesn’t want the relationship no matter how much I tell him that I just needed some outside help with my underlying issues.

Any opinions welcome and sorry it’s so long! Has anyone been through anything remotely similar?

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StormTreader · 02/02/2018 16:22

It's human to have the odd stumble in these things, just dust yourself off and get back on the wagon of NC :)

Colabottle10 · 02/02/2018 16:24

Grow a backbone woman. He's played you like the proverbial fiddle.

Delete, delete, delete. You've wasted years of your life on this liar.

longstockingjayne · 02/02/2018 16:35

I know and when I speak to him I honestly feel like utter crap afterwards. I mentioned in a text that I wish he hadn't come back the last time as I've wasted years being messed about.... a valid point I thought which isn't being awful to him but just saying it how it is.

I then get texts saying "don't give me that" and talking about how hard he found it. He says he understand the effect that it's all had on me but that I don't understand the effect that the questioning has had on him and his 'wellbeing'.

Honestly he makes me doubt myself so much.

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Colabottle10 · 02/02/2018 16:37

STOP CONTACTING HIM

StormTreader · 02/02/2018 16:38

Does he strike you as someone whos good at thinking about anyone but himself? Its not hugely surprising to me that he read your text and only thought about how it made HIM feel.

I understand the desire to have him confirm to you that he understands what he did wrong...but he wont. He isnt capable of it, and you need to accept that he will NEVER give you that final validation of your feelings - you need to let it all go.

Gemini69 · 02/02/2018 16:54

CLOSE the DOOR on this dirty rotten scumbag... he is the root of your anxiety.. and your Family are not helping ATALL ... take back control Flowers

mintich · 02/02/2018 16:55

He hasn't left because of your anxiety, he appears to be the one causing it! I had that with my last relationship. I've now been with someone else for four years and surprise surprise, I haven't had anxiety since!!

FaithEverPresent · 02/02/2018 16:59

You say he’s lovely and kind but the description in your OP paints him as a self-absorbed, lying, cheating arsehole! He also sounds awful because every time you’ve split up he’s waiting until you just about feel okay before bombarding you with messages etc saying he wants you back?!

Stop contacting him! Block him, delete him, don’t agree to see him ever again. You owe it to yourself to move on. You won’t do that if you’re still in contact with him.

crackerjacket · 02/02/2018 17:01

I guess what I struggle with most is that he's not actually a bad guy. He was very kind, loving, sensitive, attentive, would always have heaps of time to spend with me and would do anything for me. So I guess I feel like have I pushed a good guy away who just made a few young immature mistakes?

^

No.

He's a dick who cheated on you repeatedly. Nice guys do not do that.

crackerjacket · 02/02/2018 17:02

For the love of god forget this loser and just go out and shag some good looking guys.

Estellanpip · 02/02/2018 17:33

You wouldn't be normal if you didn't have some degree of anxiety being in such a toxic, ongoing web of hurt and uncertainty.
This isn't healthy. Some people are bad for you.
Being with DD's dad gave me anxiety, I had never had it before so assumed I was dying. Being around him became a trigger for the worst panic attacks I've ever had. He made me ill. I cut him out, I got better.
You need to be strong as no one else will do it for you. You need to knock it on the head once and for all.

longstockingjayne · 02/02/2018 20:20

Thank you so much ladies, I know I probably sound infuriating but your advice really goes a long way!
I guess he does come across pretty selfish in my post, as I said before I think I'm blinded by the good and I doubt myself a lot (need to work on that).
Let's begin the start of NC2!

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longstockingjayne · 04/02/2018 19:34

Curious...how long of NC has it taken for you to not feel an urge to get in touch? Wondering how long it takes before I'm not interested in getting in touch

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ICESTAR · 05/02/2018 18:19

Hi op. Maybe try the 30 day no contact thread on here? Just search it 😊

longstockingjayne · 05/02/2018 18:37

@icestar perfect thank you!

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longstockingjayne · 12/03/2018 23:11

Having the worst time with this tonight 😞

He came to get some of his stuff last night and we ended up talking, it was awful, we were both so upset.

Told me he felt robbed of the relationship he was meant to have. That all he wanted to do was love me and create a happy life for us and that he didn't and wouldn't have done anything wrong.

I was completely fine and now I'm back to square one feeling like it was all my fault 😔 sick!

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Rainbowqueeen · 13/03/2018 04:55

Those are just words. Actions are what count.

Think of it as being another little stumble. Deep down you know you need to move on with your life and so does he.

So pack up all his stuff if he hasn't taken it all and ask a friend to deliver it. Then go back to NC. It really is the best thing for you, as you said yourself you were feeling fine. One evening with him and you feel like crap. What does that tell you??????

misszp · 13/03/2018 06:10

Hi OP

Sorry to hear of what you’ve been through! I haven’t read the others posts but I had an almost scarily similar relationship for 6 years (Im nearly 30 and was about 27 when it ended). My anxiety and self esteem was an absolute mess by the end of it. All I can say (and I don’t mean this patronisingly), you’ve had a very lucky escape. I promise that with time you will heal and you will begin to realise why you didn’t work. Believe me, men like this suck the soul out of you and will not change! He’s shown he won’t by his behaviour over the years.

Being with someone who lies, cheats and doesn’t support you through your bad times is no life to live. It’s miserable and soul destroying. Could you really imagine your whole life like this forever more? You deserve more than that.

You will stumble and there will be bad days, but they’ll get less intense and less often with time. Once the Rose tinted glasses come off, you do start to see people for what they really are. NC and plenty of time spent with friends and on your hobbies is absolutely the best thing you can do. You’ve got this FlowersBrew

misszp · 13/03/2018 06:11

Also.... I second the last poster.... never believe words over actions. Words tell you what you want to hear. Actions tell you who someone really is!

Hernameisdeborah · 13/03/2018 08:22

No, he robbed you both of the relationship you were meant to have. It isn't your fault. You can and will be happier without him.

longstockingjayne · 14/03/2018 18:31

Thank you ladies 😘😘😘
As sad is it sounds I just needed to vent somewhere rather than venting to him, I find it really helps.

The actions and words thing is so true! I'm back to feeling positive again! Something like that just really sets you back a little.

Your replies really did help, thank you xxx

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longstockingjayne · 10/06/2018 17:51

Just seen that my ex is in a new relationship, it's hit me like a tonne of bricks. Reading through all your replies to try and remember hey this is for the best! 😔

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AsleepAllDay · 10/06/2018 17:58

This man is a cheat and a snake. His new 'relationship' is guaranteed to serve up the same old dross to his poor unsuspecting girlfriend

Anyone who uses your mental health as an excuse to blame you for a relationship ending (and he cheated, mind you) is the lowest of the low

Do some fun things for yourself and take care - whether it's calling a friend or going deep in a tub of ice cream

This will pass. His fuckwittery, however, will last forever and it's a lucky escape that he has a new victim... I mean, gf Wink

Oddcat · 10/06/2018 18:09

He was a knob from the get go , this lead to your anxiety, he used your anxiety as a stick to beat you with .

Stop all contact with him and read about codependency. Sometimes we get so caught up in the drama that we can't function without it .

longstockingjayne · 10/06/2018 18:11

@AsleepAllDay thank you that's lifted my spirits!
What upsets me is that I feel like she's got the best version of him. He made his mistakes with me, says he has learned from them, so she gets the loyal and faithful version.

I still continue to blame myself a lot, I was very difficult to be with at the end and my constant questioning verged on being abusive, constantly asking if he'd done anything wrong/if he was lying to me/is there something I don't know. Id ask him to swear down on family members lives constantly to try and put my anxiety at bay....so I understand why he left. I just felt so out of control of my own thoughts at the time.

Counselling helped with blaming myself a little but it's still underlying

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