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He left because of my anxiety...opinions needed!

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longstockingjayne · 31/01/2018 12:00

Hi Everyone,

So I'm struggling with a recent break up (it’s been nearly 2 weeks) and I need some advice on whether this is all my fault due to having anxiety. I'm really beating myself up, we have a lot of history so I'm going to write it as a timeline as I feel the details of our past are important. Sorry it’s really long!

August 2012 - We started our relationship (him 20, me 23). The relationship was wonderful, fell in love very quickly he was an amazing and loving boyfriend.

May 2013 - He cheated on me drunkenly on a night out (went back to somebody's house and went as far as you can go without having sex). He didn't tell me but I have my suspicions at this point, I ask him the question and he completely denies.

October 2013 - I find an email on his phone to a girl he has been talking to on a video chat site. I confront him, he apologises, says it was a onetime blip. I forgave.

June 2014 - Relationship is good (I still don't know about the cheating in May but my anxiety about it has grown consistently, I think about it pretty much every day but tell myself I’m being stupid. We've had numerous conversations but he completely denies that anything happened). I take it that there's something wrong with me and we move in together, I feel happy.

July 2014 - He goes on a boys holiday and whilst he’s away I find conversations on his laptop from the early days of our relationship where he has been on Skype webcam chatting to girls inappropriately and sending them inappropriate images. When he gets home I confront him and he says he was stupid, he hasn’t done it in ages, it meant nothing and it was a substitute for porn. I forgive.
My anxiety over the cheating incident in May 2013 then heightens ALOT to the point where I feel I need to go to the doctors, he still denies.

October 2014 - One day I come in from work and tell him that I know he's cheated, he confesses to the May 2013 cheating and then a few days later also confesses to kissing 2 girls on holiday and attempting to kiss another.

I'm understandably absolutely devastated, having just moved in together my whole world has come tumbling down. You may think I was silly for moving in with him but at that point I was being told he'd done nothing wrong and believed it was all in my head.

I speak with my family who know him well, they advise me to stay with him due to the May 2013 being so long ago and to not let the meaningless holiday kisses break us. I don't think they quite understand the extend of the lies he told me about the May 2013 cheating (he told me hundreds of times that he hadn't cheated and watched me get very poorly) but they advised that he obviously didn't want to lose the relationship over a meaningless one night thing.
I stay with him for the next year, he was unbelievably remorseful and apologetic and went above and beyond to make it up to me and truly believed he loved me very much. But I found it very hard, I became very untrusting, looking in his Facebook, phone, wanting password etc. We had some lovely moments in this year but always tinged with a bit of sadness.

October 2015 - He left me saying that he couldn't do it anymore. I was devastated. Within a month or so of me pretty much hounding him he deletes me off everything and wants nothing to do with me.

April 2016 – We ended up speaking over text and he mentions that he needs to talk to me. He comes to my house and confesses his love, says he wants me back and he wants our old life back, he’s very emotional. He is seeing somebody from work at this point but its early days.

I say that I'll think about it but that he needs to call it off with the other girl. He doesn't do it straight away and I get quite upset and mad at this which pushes him away again.

April 2016 to July 2016 – In these 4 months he can't decide what he wants (a relationship with me or something new with the girl from work). He goes back and forth between us a few times. Calling it off with her and then coming back to me and so on. This happened 4 times in total.

August 2016 - He finishes work girl for good and we 'see how it goes' for a month. He's reluctant to say that he definitely wants a relationship with me and just wants to see how he feels. Just writing this makes me realise how ridiculous it was for me to go along with it. I should have told him where to go and come back if he decides for sure. He's off and distant with me at times, I never know what he’s thinking and I feel very insecure.

September 2016 - he ends it saying he's not in a position to put his all into the relationship.

April 2017 - We see each other in a local pub and he texts me when home. He wants to make it work again. I said I would meet up with him to talk.

We met up and he was very genuine. Apologised whole heartedly for everything that had gone on (bear in mind we’re a bit older now and more mature) and said he finally knows what he wants and that he’s sorry it took him a while to get there. He said he hadn’t been in a good place the previous time but was happy now, except there was me missing.

I agreed to see how I felt.

Well from then on I was completely woo’d - I got concert tickets bought for me, flowers on my door step, presents, love letters and lots of other thoughtful lovely things. It was lovely and he did everything that it took to make me see that he was genuine and wanted this.

We began a relationship and I was happy. He lied to me quite incessantly about a few things I asked him about the time we were apart (I wanted to know when the last time was he’d slept with someone before we got back together and if he’d slept with a mutual friend of ours that I’d had suspicions of, they were the only things I wanted to know). He lied a lot until he eventually confessed, this didn’t get us off to a good start. My family advised to ignore these silly lies as they’re about stuff when we were single which we shouldn’t have been talking about anyway. He said to me he thought I may not want him if I knew the truth.

Then a few months after this I started to develop what I can only describe as horrendous anxiety. I somehow convinced myself that since we got back together there was something to hurt me/something I didn’t know/something he was lying to me about. I never ever brought up the previous cheating in our first relationship nor did I talk about any of the girls he’d slept with in the break up, it was just an over whelming fear that there was something in this relationship that would hurt me.

I would get so worked up I’d feel sick to my stomach but kept telling myself it was my anxiety and I needed some help with it. I went to the doctors and got some tablets and tried some over the phone counselling which was a bit rubbish.

It got to the point where perhaps 2/3 times a week I was asking him whether there was something to hurt me/something had happened/ had he kisses someone on a night out. I would never be mean/shout or argumentative more very fearful in how I was saying it but I still think it verged on a little abusive the amount of times I was asking. But it was just eating me up inside so I felt I had to speak about it.
He was extremely reassuring at first and very very patient which I appreciated a lot. He swore down on family members lives he hadn’t put a foot out of line, which looking back I firmly believe, but at the time I just could not get it out of my head.

If I had my rationale head on I knew there was nothing to worry me but if I was ‘in one’ it was all consuming.

So much so that he ended it 2 weeks ago (just after I’d been to the doctors and been referred for in person councelling so I was genuinely starting to see the light). I told him anxiety was treatable and asked if he could bare with me until after my treatment. He said he knows I’ll get better but he’s ‘scarred’ by all the questioning and doesn’t want it anymore. To be fair to him he did put up with it for around 5 months and put up with A LOT.

I now feel awful that I pushed him away like that when we finally had a shot at being happy.

I guess I’m just writing on here to get some outside perspective, I lived through all of the above so it’s hard for me to see it clearly. I feel like I ruined a chance to be happy with the person I love after we’d finally grew up and put all of the rubbish behind us.

Looking back I don’t think he’d done anything to hurt me in this relationship nor do I think he would have done anything going forward. But he just doesn’t want the relationship no matter how much I tell him that I just needed some outside help with my underlying issues.

Any opinions welcome and sorry it’s so long! Has anyone been through anything remotely similar?

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Adversecamber22 · 10/01/2019 01:47

You have had lots of really good advice on this thread, I notice your still having a bad time six months down the line. I hope it’s just a thought an there has been no contact.

Quite frankly your ex is scummy he actively enjoyed playing with your feelings he was like a cat with a mouse.

longstockingjayne · 05/12/2019 22:19

longstockingjayne1 hour ago
Well after getting back on track and finding a new man, I bumped into my ex in the pub on Saturday and my head is in bits.

It was fine at first…. but we got talking and it was just the most draining conversation. He mentioned the ‘little things’ he did in our first relationship and he only lied in our 2nd relationship because he ‘didn’t realise’ how much his lies had effected me…..WHAT THE!?

he also went on to say that he’d never cheat on his new girlfriend and it’s not even on his radar. Which made me feel like all his mistakes and lessons were made with me….leaving his new girlfriend to get the best of him.

ive been so happy with my new boyfriend but since seeing my ex my mind is in constant overdrive going over everythin again and again. I’m worried its made me take a big step backwards with my anxiety and I’m just feeling really mentally drained.

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PippiDeLena · 05/12/2019 23:06

he also went on to say that he’d never cheat on his new girlfriend and it’s not even on his radar. Which made me feel like all his mistakes and lessons were made with me….leaving his new girlfriend to get the best of him.

And he also told you he'd never cheat on you but that was a massive, steaming pile of shite wasn't it? Why do you even listen to a word he says? He lied and cheated constantly when you were together. You should be congratulating yourself for getting rid of him.

Did you get therapy originally? I think you need more. It's not normal to be obsessing over your ex from two years ago, especially when he treated you so badly. You need to love yourself more.

CoupeCourte · 06/12/2019 00:18

Can you see that this was on his end a deliberately draining conversation? This man delighted in fucking with your head for years and he has taken another opportunity to do so. It is all a game to him. You have to understand everything he says is designed to damage you. He wants you to be feeling anxious, he gets off on it.

I mean think about what he's said to you. Years on from the formal, final end of your relationship, he is coming up to you in a pub on a Saturday night and wanking on about his thinking from when you were together in 2013! Six years ago! Nobody normal or good does this. He wants to dredge up all those emotions in you, he wants to destroy your new relationship, he cannot stand that you are happy.

Please don't let him. Please seek some kind of support whether it's a counsellor or a friend or family member. Just don't keep it bottled up in your brain which is still impacted from the ways he screwed with your mind. You feel anxious and drained now because you are processing the same kind of gaslighting bullshit as you did when you were with him.

Alysanne · 06/12/2019 13:54

Your ex was just screwing with you when he met you again. No doubt he saw you happy with your new partner and wanted to bring you down. Don't give him the satisfaction. As for the whole 'not cheating on his new gf' don't buy it for a second.

In saying that don't even think about it. You be moved on and are happy. The fact HE brings it all up all your past when you met randomly in a pub shows he isn't. Enjoy Christmas with your partner and try and put the ex behind you.

VixenSixen · 06/12/2019 14:04

This man is completely toxic to you and I think you should definitely cut him out of your life for good..... He is only telling you all the best bits because he wants to play with your emotions and completely screw with your head.

Don't give him another second of your time and energy, he is so bad for you.

And definitely find someone you can talk through this with - someone completely impartial, it will help you get perspective and give you strength to leave him in the past where he belongs.

Sending you hugs Flowers

longstockingjayne · 06/12/2019 18:43

Thank you everyone, it was both of us who instigated the conversation about what went on with us but I just think he could have worded things a little better. And also not belittled the things he did on our first relationship, that really gets to me

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IntrinsicValue · 06/12/2019 23:00

Blimey Op, reading that made me dizzy - all the backwards and forwards.
Just get rid of him, he’s no good for you. You’re wasting your life.

MMmomDD · 06/12/2019 23:53

OP - his new GF isn’t getting the beat of him, just an older and more mature him.
Just like your BF is getting a more mature you.

You two were each other’s first adult relationship. With a long history of things and behaviours. He did lots wrong, you had your issues. You both have moved on and learned from the relationship.
Bumping into Exes that were important/painful is often challenging. Brings up past hurts. Your breakup wasn’t that long ago so it’s normal that you are affected.
Give it a bit of time. And keep working on your issues. Anxiety does tend to come back on and off, but it’s possible to manage it long term.

Nolie100 · 07/12/2019 02:12

Completely disengage!

No more chats in pub, casual conversations, texts, social media messages etc. This man has affected your mental health so stay away! If you see him out socially, ignore!

Treat him like he's radioactive. Don't be a sucker for punishment and ask for opinions from a man who lied and cheated.

Cut him out.

HypatiaCade · 07/12/2019 02:54

Op, your ex has this picture of himself in his head as the good guy, and all of the things he did to hurt you have to be explained away in his own mind, in order for the picture of himself as a good guy to hold true. THAT is why is minimising the lies and their effect on you. Because otherwise he would have to face up to the fact that he was a grade A twunt and deal with that fact. He's not a good enough person to do that.

You, however, are. Hold onto that. You saw your shortcomings, and have taken steps to fix them. He never did.

Will he continue to be a twunt in the future or will he be the better version of himself? It's quite possible he will be the better version of himself, right up until the point at which he is tested, whether it is temptation by an attractive work colleague, difficulties in his personal life, anything really. This is NOT a man to be relied on because he has never accepted the fact that he has acted badly and taken responsibility for it.

Be at peace with yourself, and move on.

longstockingjayne · 07/12/2019 08:07

@hypatiacade wow this reply is like you actually know us. I’m going to read this whenever I have ‘a moment’ thank you so much

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HypatiaCade · 07/12/2019 09:00

Hopefully you have less and less moments going forward. Stay strong!
Thanks

ittakes2 · 08/12/2019 06:00

I think you have been conditioned to accept that his behaviour is ok. It’s not. You deserve better. When you are in a healthy relationship you will look back and see this.
Married people with kids often try and work through cheating because to not try is pulling their family apart without a fight. You are so young - please work on your self esteem, your boundaries on how you want and deserve to be treated. There is something much nicer out there for you. Good luck. And please - don’t let anyone including your family convince you to accept less. If you don’t respect yourself others won’t either.

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