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Have 10 month old baby, relationship with dh awful

88 replies

Goldfishshoals · 24/01/2018 19:51

Fell in love, got married, had a baby...

...and now it's all shit. Awful pregnancy sickness and a blood clot that nearly killed me, weeks in hospital. Awful birth related to the former, suspect I have PTSD. I love the baby, but she doesn't sleep. Have slept no more than 2.5 hours at a time in the last year and a half. Constant exhaustion, forgetfulness and making mistakes.

Our relationship is awful. No sex of any kind since I started to show pregnant. He just went off me. Which I found pretty distressing at first, then I was too ill to care. I broached the subject around 6 months after the baby was born, he assured me he wanted to have sex but [insert list of increasingly weak excuses]. If I'm entirely honest I don't particularly want sex with him either, but I felt I should try to salvage the relationship (and maybe things would get better).

From the start he seems to have regarded himself as my manager when it comes to the baby (telling me when to feed her, telling me I should be taking her out to get social interaction, telling me not to let her sleep in the morning, telling me everything I do is creating 'bad habits', telling me I shouldn't sleep with her, etc).

Other new mums talk about the inner voice of self criticism, mine is not inner, it's my DH.

He works from home, and he's moved out of his office into the main living area (he expects me to keep the baby quiet while he makes work related phone calls..) so he can tell me I'm wrong all day. Weekends he always has 'chores' to do which he makes sure takes the whole weekend (i.e. deciding to cook a Sunday roast which then somehow takes the whole day) so I never get a break. He moans he never gets a break either because of the drawn out chores, and that he's more tired than me because when I went to sleep early (reality : holding a screaming baby) he stayed up having a drink and watching a movie (my heart bleeds).

Today we've had a huge row because for several days now he's been making digs at me over how sorry he feels for our daughter because she must be so bored because I don't play with her enough.

I try to take her out the house for a walk each day, I read to her every day, I get out different toys. I swim with her once a week, we both take her to a baby class (his idea - I've taken her alone sometimes, he refuses to go alone). I feed her, I talk to her, I snuggle and bounce her, I sing her nursery rhymes and play peek-a-boo. I also let her explore on her own with me just keeping an eye, and during this time will have a cup of tea and look things up online (often 'why is my baby doing that' or recipes suitable for babies etc). Which is when he heckles me for being a shit parent.

I got angry and told him to stop bitching at me, he said I was starting a fight. I pointed out that I'd feel a lot more relaxed about playing with her if he wasn't there in the room telling me I'm doing it wrong the whole time. It turned into a slanging match. I told him if I was so shit he should probably take over looking after our daughter this evening (which he is). I just can't take it anymore.

I don't know how everything has got so awful and I have no idea how to try to turn things around. During the argument he actually said to me "you just want a happy carefree life", and I thought "yes! I do. Doesn't everyone?" Why doesn't he want us to be happy?

OP posts:
Chugalug · 24/01/2018 19:54

Make him move back in to the office room for a start.

FoxesSitOnBoxes · 24/01/2018 19:57

Wow, that sounds horrible. What a shit Flowers

HappyHedgehog247 · 24/01/2018 19:58

Urgh. I don't know if I have any sensible advice other than I feel for you. Will he consider renting an office? Can you get out of the house more with her? Do you ever get help so the 2 of you can be together? (Although is last thing I would want I think).

43percentburnt · 24/01/2018 19:59

What was his behaviour/ your relationship like pre baby? Was he bossy? Argumentative? Always right? Did you have an established career? See little of each other? Did he do 50/50 housework/admin/thinking?

I'm wondering if he has changed or if he has always been this way. But now you are round each other 24/7 his controlling ways are just too obvious.

FruitCocktailAndCream · 24/01/2018 20:00

He sounds like a controlling arsehole.

saladdays66 · 24/01/2018 20:01

Oh god. First off, make him move back into the office. Sounds very passive aggressive wanting to try to work in living space! And unfair on you and your dd.

Or you could ask him to move out for a week or so. This might shock him into owning his behaviour and seeing what an arse he’s being.

Hugs.

endofthelinefinally · 24/01/2018 20:02

He is a nasty, abusive bully.
I am so sorry.
His behaviour is damaging for you and your baby.
I think you need to get away from him. Sorry.

Hippydippydoo · 24/01/2018 20:08

I'm so sorry to read about what your going through. You sound like an incredible mum to be putting up with that and still getting out and about your your baby.

What you describe doing with your baby in the week is the same as what I do with my 11 month old.

Personally,I'm finding this stage very hard, but I'm not dealing with what you are, and my heart literally breaks for you 😔

It sounds like you would be better off without him to be honest.

Lots of hugs.

RemainOptimistic · 24/01/2018 20:11

What on earth?

He can have the baby and you can go out to work in that case. Make sure he knows to cook and clean too!

Hairgician · 24/01/2018 20:14

He sounds like a massive cunt. Sorry. As for you, you are doing brilliant and don't let him say otherwise. Wanker.

Get him to move his shit back to the office and telling him to stop with the armchair parenting. You really really don't need it.

Personally I'd be telling him to fuck off altogether.

QueenofmyPrinces · 24/01/2018 20:23

He sounds vile.

Please get away from him before he knocks your confidence as a mother and grinds you down. He sounds like a very manipulative and controlling man and you and your daughter should be as far away from him as possible.

MillieMoodle · 24/01/2018 20:28

He sounds like a massive twat tbh.

He needs to get back into his office and out of your way in the week so that you can find your own way with the baby. It sounds like you do more than enough to bond with her and stimulate her. Babies need time to discover stuff themselves and they need to learn to amuse themselves too, she won't learn if you're forever having to do everything for her.

Have you tried calmly sitting down and talking to your DH? Explaining that you're feeling overwhelmed and why and asking him to just listen to you while you offload? He should be supporting you, not being your worst critic. Have you asked him calmly why he feels like he needs to micromanage your parenting?

My DH can be crap at times; sometimes I just need to offload everything (without interruption) and then he realises how at the end of my tether I am, and then he has his turn to offload (without interruption) and then we try to fix it. We have found it works much better than constantly niggling at each other.

Can you suggest splitting the weekends so one of you has a lie in on a Saturday and one on a Sunday? At least you'd get a couple more hours sleep and he'd get some time on his own with your DD. Maybe one of you cooks a roast one week and the other one cooks it the next week? Do you go out as a family at the weekend and have time away from the house?

I can just feel the frustration and exhaustion in your post and it shouldn't be like that for you Thanks

user1474652148 · 24/01/2018 20:28

He is very controlling. You need to speak up and be heard.
He moved back into the office it is not healthy being together 247
He no longer manages from the side lines and you pull him up straight away if he does
Date night now and then once other issues are solved

mylaptopismylapdog · 24/01/2018 20:31

Do you have family you can take the baby to for a break? This would give you a chance hopefully to rest and to consider what how you want to tackle this. What you describe sounds horrendously oppressive to me. You could point out that nobody in their right mind would consider bringing up a baby in an office. I would suggest that he move back out of the living area. Does he ever do anything with her? If not you could point out that children need positive interaction with all the people around them not just the mother.
Part of me wants to suggest playing watching Daddy at work with her with a running commentary and see how he likes it.
Is this how he wants he daughter to be treated by her partner when she grows up! Hope it improves soon.

QuiteLikely5 · 24/01/2018 20:41

Firstly you need to insist that he allows you to get some rest on a weekend. No roast!

You need at least six hours to yourself on a Saturday afternoon and at least one lie in on the weekend.

Criticising a new mother like the way he is - is one of the most cruel things. You are very fragile after having a baby, especially your first and this is just the total opposite of what you need.

Why did he move out of his office? To monitor you?

He is doing more damage than anybody to that baby by being abusive to you in her presence

TeachesOfPeaches · 24/01/2018 20:44

My ex became completely controlling and nasty when I had my baby. He would scream at me and tell me he was going to abduct my son and that I was a shit mum while I was trying to breastfeed him.

I became a single mum with an 8m old. Good luck OP.

Goldfishshoals · 24/01/2018 21:49

Trying I answer all the questions:

He originally moved downstairs temporarily because he had hurt his foot (fair enough), but then he started using the office as a dumping room, so now says he can't move back because there's no room (it's only a small 2 bed house). He keeps saying it's only temporary, til certain projects are finished, but it's been months now, and there's no end in sight.

We've been out just the two of us once since the baby was born (my parents took the baby for the evening on our wedding anniversary). To be honest I mostly just worried about the baby not sleeping without me (she didn't), DH just wanted to talk about his plans for home improvement projects I don't have the energy to enthuse about.

We never really go out for a day as a family (unless you count the supermarket) we have spent weekends visiting family (we both have big and distant families). DH has been out for a few weekends with friends, but I haven't.

I feel like I'm really struggling to do the amount I do so with her. I don't have the money to take her anywhere that costs or would involve a bus journey. It's hard.

I think he was always a bit bossy, but before I just stood up to him, and he accepted that. He would always assume he knew best, but he would listen if I disagreed. Now he seems to get nasty.

He does more than his fair share of the housework. Because he's so particular about how things are done I've given up on trying to help with lots of things - i.e. if I hang out the washing he just comes and re hangs it, so I don't bother. (I'm not doing anything weird! My clothes happily dried hung out by me for years before we meet). I do still clean the bathroom, but he often has to do it again because I don't use his method of scrubbing everything with an old toothbrush (I actually thought he was joking when he first told me how he does it - it sounded like a military bootcamp punishment).

Now I think about it he's always done this micromanaging thing about the household, but partly I accepted it because it's his house (brought before we met), and the other half I just said 'nope'! He can do things his way, and I'll do them mine.

But it's different when it comes to the baby because she's OUR baby, not just his, like the house, so I never expected him to think he called all the shots. (I was really naive, wasn't I?).

I've tried suggesting alternating lie ins, but he doesn't want to have lie ins (one time he moaned about being exhausted so I got up with the baby so he could sleep, but he just followed us down).

He does take the baby for 1 or 2 hours most week days, but almost never on weekends.

I really fear that I am a shit mum. I ummed and ahhed for years about having a baby even though I really wanted one because my own mother was really unloving and distant (she had her own baggage), so I was terrified I wouldn't be able to love my baby. I still feel like I don't know how to show her I love her.

I adore her. She is literally the best thing that has ever happened to me. I want to be a good parent, but it doesn't come naturally to me, I want to do everything right. But I'm also so so tired.

I'm not as good at being 'fun' as DH is. I do realise that. He can pull faces and make her laugh and just interact in ways I can't. It's just not me. But I do all the cooking and feeding and breastfeeding and getting her to sleep and naps and baths and dressing and all that stuff, and that has to count for something? And I read with her and play music and sing and cuddle her and build block towers and roll balls...

I feel so guilty. I feel so shit.

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QuiteLikely5 · 24/01/2018 21:55

You feel shit? I’m not surprised! Any woman loves bing with those daily put downs would of feel absolute floored by his comments

He is damaging to the self esteem and confidence.

He doesn’t believe in lie ins! That’s because he’s never looked after a baby all night!

In your shoes I would go to stay with a kind family member for a week or so.

You are living with some sort of dictator!

I feel angry on your behalf

WazFlimFlam · 24/01/2018 21:58

Oh hun, ltb. You can never be happy with this knob.

Haffiana · 24/01/2018 22:00

Why don't you have any money? What happens to the money in your household?

saladdays66 · 24/01/2018 22:01

Don’t feel guilty or shit! You sound like a lovely mum and you’re doing nothing wrong.

Sounds like your h has been controlling for ages, but he’s just ramped it up now you have a dd. Don’t stand for it. He’s ruining your first months with dd, he’s making you feel like shit, he’s taking away your confidence - don’t let him!

My god, if he’s like this now, wtf will he be like when you have real parenting dilemmas like boyfriends, teen cheek, friend issues, cheek and answering back?

You wouldn’t put up with a stranger making you feel like this, so why put up with your h doing it? He’s meant to love you more than anything else.

Think about what your non-negotiables are. Write a list - lie ins, being left in peace, h working in office again. Then have a frank talk to your dc. Tell him how awful he is making you feel. Say you’re close to leaving him. See how he reacts.

saladdays66 · 24/01/2018 22:02

Talk to dh, not dc!

QuiteLikely5 · 24/01/2018 22:02

Should say any woman would feel shit!

SweepTheHalls · 24/01/2018 22:07

Go back to work, full or part time, use a nursery, get back your identity, your independence and stop giving him the opportunity to manage you. It all sounds horrible at the moment, I really feel for you x

StargazyDrifter · 24/01/2018 22:16

To me, you sound like you are an brilliant mummy and know your baby and what's good for her. You sound thoughtful, kind and caring. He sounds controlling and mean and maybe ever so slightly insecure. Please don't let him get you down. His moaning sounds completely unfounded. 💐

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