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Don’t know if this is normal in marriage

115 replies

Realitea · 11/01/2018 13:04

Married for 8 years. Two dc’s. Dh started his own business last year and is totally consumed by it. He’s never around to help. If he is around his mind is elsewhere and he’s stressed. A client of mine knocked on the door the other day while he was working from home and he screamed ‘oh for gods sake’! It’s like he’s losing it.
I’m left to do all the home/child stuff but with no car or money.
This business makes next to nothing. He pays the bills and for food but expects me to contribute much more than I can afford to as I only work a few hours a week. He works from 9-9 most days and we live in the middle of nowhere so how can I work around that?
My inheritance ended up going on food and basic living costs while he saved for a better car. He pays into savings every month (£200) yet when I say we need money for food he gets stressed and says use up what we have already. We do have a joint account but there’s never any money in it. He expects us to get by on working tax credits which is about £90 a week.
Dd’s birthday was recent and he bought one present. It got nearer and nearer the time and in the end I thought I’m going to have to do something here and ordered more on my credit card.
I also found on his laptop that he’d been looking elsewhere for sex. We went to counselling and it came out that he didn’t find me attractive anymore and found when we did have sex it was boring. I made a massive effort since then with my appearance and made sure we had sex more often but then I noticed something. He was never coming on to me. I left it a while and he hasn’t made the effort since. I think it was a rubbish excuse he used in counselling. He was just acting selfishly and the simple answer is he’s just too lazy and selfish for a real life relationship. He wants a glamorous girl on his arm to prove his status. A girl who will ask nothing from him.
I just don’t know what to do next. I find it so hard to talk to him. He usually has lots of quick comebacks and defends his point so well that I’m left feeling like I was silly for feeling this way. Is this gaslighting?
If I left I would have to go on benefits and definitely move away as there’s nothing here. I’d have to lose the few business contacts I have for my work. I have money to rent elsewhere but I don’t know how I’d get by apart from that. I’ve been pushing this aside for so long thinking ‘just get on with it, you’ve got a lovely home and family’ but this creeps back and today after weeks of being ill and stress it’s all surfacing.

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theredjellybean · 16/01/2018 12:26

Realitea... I don't see him and you sitting down and doing a weekly budget together, working out what money is coming in, what you need to buy, what you can save for etc as controlling at all.

It's a very sensible, grown up way two adults in a relationship should manage their money.

OK he has said buying the car is his priority, if you don't agree then you need to both discuss this. He might have valid reasons for putting it top of spending list.
You clearly see the holiday as a priority...(as I would too) but that has been paid for.
There is some give and take to be done...you got your priority big ticket item, maybe next should be the car that he wants.

Honestly I do hope it continues going well, but he has certainly put his money where his mouth is

Realitea · 16/01/2018 12:45

He really has hasn’t he! The car is a priority really as I can drive it too if needed (I’m also getting one but that’s a gift from family) and he needs it for work. His is on its last wheels and his cars have always been hbd me downs from his family. They’ve always cost a lot to run so really a decent car is a good idea.
I thought working out together what the budget is and what you want to spend money on was what most couples did really Hmm so I agree there’s nothing controlling there unless he starts to tell me what I can and can’t put on my list?!

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theredjellybean · 16/01/2018 12:52

I also think that is he does say you can't buy xyz... Then see what happens if you laugh (nicely) and say 'yep that is quite an expensive thing but if no one eats the cheaper cheese /cereal / yoghurts then they get wasted and do its more cost effective to buy the expensive ones'

If he listens and you debate it and find compromises on things... Hurrah sounds like a good relationship worth working on.

Realitea · 16/01/2018 13:14

He usually just complains that I want to fill the trolley with sugar and he’s on a diet!
He also likes a lot of food that I can’t eat so it’s always difficult. It’s making him listen and not be so selfish though and just think of what he needs and wants
I have to say I feel great knowing there’s no more debt! And I’ve just had a job offer out of the blue for a really good company!

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theredjellybean · 16/01/2018 13:15

That's brilliant... Well done...

Mix56 · 16/01/2018 13:20

Butas has been saying he will buy the food, & therefore possibly doesn't know how to be economical.
Like buying one big pack of mince can make 3 meals, or half be frozen when its on offer.
Can I suggest you do some homework & present him a studied list?
1st note all the favourite meals you will all eat.
then work out how you can economise
ex, day 1, roast chicken & veg
day 2 soup with stock from chicken, or remains of chicken & mushroom pie
day 3 spaghetti bol (family pack mince ) make large batch of sauce & freeze half
Day 4 or hamburgers with rest of mince, salad

So you can head straight for special offers by buying bulk. You can freeze milk, cheese, sausages, buns etc when on offer. its much cheaper. If you can show you are making an effort,to economise he might allow you to shop, if not, then he really is just continuing his financial control

Realitea · 16/01/2018 14:52

We’ve just had a long talk about this and I definitely feel better now. The savings are going to have my name on, we’re going at the weekend to do that.
He kicked off a bit with the food thing as theredjellybean predicted. He said ‘but I like completely different stuff to everyone else’ - umm..tough!
So we’ve decided to do weekly online shops together and we know our budget now which is a measly £124 a week.
Whatever I make from my job I keep aswell and it shouldn’t have to go on much now I have no debt and don’t have to pay for driving lessons and clothes etc.
I told him I found his whole attitude very selfish and controlling and in future I will be equal in every way. He seemed ok with it, and looked a bit scared at this new powerful me.
I feel so relieved!

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cod · 16/01/2018 14:55

Learn to drive. And fast.

cod · 16/01/2018 14:56

Oh you can sorry. Was so incensed by the first reference to him taking you somewhere

Luckingfovely · 16/01/2018 14:56

So lovely to hear a positive outcome! I hope he continues to treat you better and things work out for you.

Realitea · 16/01/2018 15:00

Cod, I’m learning and yes he does have to take me everywhere! It’s horrible. I am nearly through though I need about five more lessons I’d say.
I’d better just add the £124 a week budget is after bills so mainly for food but also if clothes are needed or birthdays are coming up that’s it. I feel this is very daunting for four people!

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theredjellybean · 16/01/2018 15:56

I don't think £124 is that bad, yes you will need to shop carefully and I would suggest you save a bit each week for birthdays

Cyrilla · 16/01/2018 17:01

I'm pleased he's going to add you to your savings and is agreeing to make changes Thanks

Realitea · 16/01/2018 17:49

Thanks everyone Flowers

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Mix56 · 17/01/2018 08:48

Probably a first when the abuser backs down.

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