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H tried to initiate sex and I told him to f off

116 replies

LilaNorcross · 14/10/2017 07:22

Now he's all hurt and refusing to talk to me.

We're mid-40s, our sex life has been dead for about ten years. Its death coincided with me putting on weight (from size 10 to size 14) and aging and starting to sag. Although that's just bitterness talking - I actually have no idea why our sex life is dead because he's never told me. I've tried initiating sex several times but he wasn't interested, so now I leave him alone, and I've tried discussing it several times but he's the king of stonewalling and gaslighting and making himself look good, so all I've ever had is 'I don't know, I'm tired', 'why are you bringing this up now?', 'Well let's both make more of an effort'.

I can't actually remember the last time we had sex in our home, it must be at least ten years, although we still share a bed. We still had sex once a year on holiday, but that's stopped now as well and the last time was two years ago.

Last night we went to a family function and stayed in a lovely hotel. I've recently lost weight and am back down to a size 10. I looked nice and I felt good for the first time in years - my self esteem has been shit because my husband can't bear to have sex with me and I've assumed it's because I've had the cheek to age and put on weight. We had a good night and were both tipsy, but when I realised he wanted to have sex with me, all the pent-up anger and hurt rushed out. I said, 'What the fuck do you think you're doing? You've not touched me for years and never told me why, you've made me feel like shit about myself. Our sex life is dead - you can fuck off if you think you can pretend this is a normal marriage for a night.'

Now he's acting all huffy and refusing to talk to me. Reading back what I said to him is awful, but it was years of frustration and hurt come to a head.

OP posts:
TheStoic · 14/10/2017 08:56

But it takes an uncaring partner, maybe with their own issues, never to talk about it , brush it under the carpet, and be complicit in the arrangement by being passive.

And you know for a fact the OP is doing all that? Or is that just in your own relationship?

NotAgainYoda · 14/10/2017 08:57

OK, so that's gaslighting. And it's not separate. It's cruelty, isn't it?

bastardkitty · 14/10/2017 08:57

Even though it's entirely his fault?

iknowiknowiknowiknow · 14/10/2017 08:58

I'd describe it as a companiable relationship - we're friends. So things are very nice between us as long as I don't rock the boat. He will happily discuss work, where we're going for dinner, what to watch on TV and so on. But if I bring up anything to do with our relationship or ask a favour of him, then I think he sees it as a criticism and he will get irritable, walk out, deny it, or shut me down.

Fuck that.

BillBrysonsBeard · 14/10/2017 08:58

My dad did this to my mum... I think they hadn't had sex for about 12 years then she lost all the weight in her 50s. She had got so used to loving like friends, not even hugs or kisses anymore. Then one day he came onto her while she was painting! She had missed it so much that she went with it and they had a sex life back, but only until she started putting weight on again. How can someone switch off for so long from your wife and then just because she's smaller, want to have sex after 12 years? I don't get it! I loved my dad as a father but he was a shallow husband. I would be as pissed off as you OP.
My DPs reaction to me doesn't change between size 10 and size 20 (highest I got after two kids)

BillBrysonsBeard · 14/10/2017 08:59

living*

category12 · 14/10/2017 08:59

He sounds like someone you really need to leave, op. None of this is normal or OK, and the gaslighting and stonewalling is really destructive.

Vitalogy · 14/10/2017 09:03

You both had a good night and you felt good, i would have gone along with it, had sex, and then had a heart to heart after. That was my first thought too.
Op, do you feel any regret at not giving it a try? All is not lost if this is the case.

MessyBun247 · 14/10/2017 09:05

Why are people blaming OP!? She has tried many times to talk to him about it! And he shuts her down! So it IS down to him that resentment has built up. OP ignore anyone trying to say that the communication issues are in any way your fault. You tried. And you ARE a strong amazing person, it's just that he has worn you down over the years, making you feel like you aren't good enough. The strength in you is still there, you just need dig deep and find it again. You will be happy again. Just not with him.

MessyBun247 · 14/10/2017 09:06

'I would have gone along with it'. OP didn't want to have sex that night. She was angry. After years of her needs being ignored, she has to go along with what he wants. As if that will fix anything. Shit advice!

HennyPennys · 14/10/2017 09:07

Although that's just bitterness talking. I actually have no idea why our sex life is dead because he's never told me

This OP.

You can't blame someone for their behaviour when you choose not to talk about it.

TheStoic And you know for a fact the OP is doing all that? Or is that just in your own relationship? Eeerrr.....lots of assumptions there. Am I in a relationship? Stupid comment.

LilaNorcross · 14/10/2017 09:08

But it takes an uncaring partner, maybe with their own issues, never to talk about it , brush it under the carpet, and be complicit in the arrangement by being passive

Maybe it wasn't clear in my OP, but I have discussed this with him several times and shuts me down EVERY SINGLE TIME. I therefore have no idea why he doesn't want sex with me because he refuses to tell me. I am also not passive - I initiated sex with him several times and he rejected me.

But yes, I concede that now, after years of irritable responses when I try to talk to him, gaslighting and stonewalling, yes I am very well trained and I am complicit and passive.

OP posts:
TheStoic · 14/10/2017 09:08

.lots of assumptions there. Am I in a relationship? Stupid comment.

They were your words, and seeing as you don’t know the OP at all, they obviously came from somewhere

category12 · 14/10/2017 09:09

I think it's completely normal to respond badly to his advances after a decade of rejection by him! Not to mention all the rest of it, where the op is constantly walking on eggshells with him and there's no communication.

category12 · 14/10/2017 09:09

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LilaNorcross · 14/10/2017 09:09

You can't blame someone for their behaviour when you choose not to talk about it.

You're clearly not reading my posts. You remind me of my husband.

OP posts:
bastardkitty · 14/10/2017 09:10

You were really clear OP. Mumsnet is overrun with goady fuckers these days.

HennyPennys · 14/10/2017 09:12

It wasn't clear in your first post. Not at all.
I suspect he has ED. How would you know if he's not had sex with you except for once a year on holiday? ED for a bloke is terrible. Maybe the worst thing and hard to discuss. Doesn't mean he is right but if you are discussing it in a very aggressive, put-out way, and not showing any kindness, then he won't want to talk about it. He may be scared shitless by his lack of sex drive or possibly ED.

So to move forward now, you can suggest getting help via Relate or a specialist sex therapist (Relate aren't always the best for this) or you tell him you want to end your marriage. (If you do.)

HennyPennys · 14/10/2017 09:14

TheStoic with respect you're talking bollocks about 'where my words came from'. Do one, please.

bastardkitty · 14/10/2017 09:15

I suggest you leave him and find yourself a proper partner who likes sex and treats you with respect.

TheStoic · 14/10/2017 09:16

‘With respect..’ Grin

bastardkitty · 14/10/2017 09:16

Are you a psychic medium HennyPennys?

PrimalLass · 14/10/2017 09:17

I can't believe anyone here is focusing on the OP using a word when the issue is that her husband has refused to have sex with her or discuss it for 10 years.

radiosignal · 14/10/2017 09:17

You need to tackle the issues in your relationship properly. It sounds incredibly toxic. Either you both commit to working on it and seeing a counsellor or you agree to separate. You can't go on like this. You sound incredibly angry and full of dislike.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 14/10/2017 09:20

Lila

What do you get out of this relationship now?. What is in this for you?.

Why are you and this man together; what you describe really is a codependent relationship and that is not healthy at all.

(OP has stated in a previous post there are no ED issues)