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situation with my colleague

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MortalEnemy · 21/09/2017 19:05

Let me start by saying that I am over 40, but if I sound like the most clueless of teenagers, that is because I am in relationships terms -- I was with the same man from my teens until a couple of years ago, and as I've been single since, and am the busy working parent of a demanding small child with no evening childcare, as a result I have pretty much zero experience of relationships, flirting etc.

Which is why I'm finding this confusing and talking to a bunch of strangers on the internet about it.

I've been in my current job at a large organisation (being deliberately vague) for just over a year. Over the last two or three months, I've found myself feeling close to a colleague from another department with whom I have intermittent meetings/dealings, after only vaguely registering him as a nice guy before that. Recently we seem to end up drifting together at any events we're both at, and falling into conversations which end up often being very long and wide-ranging, and often end up hovering by the lifts or in the corridor talking more, if it's something at the end of the day.

I thought I was overthinking this while I was away over the summer, but now it seems to be becoming more frequent, if anything, and the conversations more personal. It's a busy period at work, with a weekend event and a conference we both had to attend, and in the last five workdays alone, we must have spent four or five hours talking at a reception/on the way out of the building/on the way to the car park. I'm finding myself thinking about him more and more, and realised I find him attractive. He's 48, clever, funny, observant, and kind, and apparently amiably divorced, but clearly a besotted and very involved father to teenagers.

The issue, I suppose is that I'm completely confused about what this means. The last time I was in this situation I was 18, pretty and confident, and I was falling in love with the man I married. Now I am in my 40s, no looker, and my confidence has taken a big knocking for various reasons in the last five years, when I found parenthood tough, my career foundered, my marriage ended and I haven't been particularly happy -- my marriage was celibate for the last few years, and I have not thought of myself as someone who could be considered attractive for a very long time. I also have none of the basic comprehension of men that an average, single 40something woman has. At some level I am terrified, but mostly what I feel is as though I'm a beginner at a language everyone else seems to speak fluently.

How on earth do you know if someone reciprocates your feelings? How can you tell the difference between someone who likes you as a workmate and someone who is developing stronger feelings for you? I have butterflies. I'm off my food. When someone says his name I get a rush of pleasure. I am a teenager in the body of a 42 year old professional.

I realise this probably sounds like a complete non-problem to anyone with experience of adult dating, but despite being a functioning adult I am absolutely unable to conceive that anyone would find me attractive, and while we gravitate to one another when we encounter one another at work and can't stop talking, it's always 'accidental'. He's very self-deprecating, and I sense he's been out of the game for a while, too. I'm especially wary because presuming something about a workmate could have horrible consequences. Also, we're both originally from the same country, though have lived in the UK most of our adult lives, so I wonder whether this might just be nostalgia for 'home' from him. But then I think of all the times when an hour suddenly melted away just standing in the corridor, and the fact that he remembers absolutely everything I tell him.

Thank you for struggling through this any advice? How does this sound to you? What would you do? A bit of me hopes you will all say 'predictable office crush all in your head no basis in reality, no need to do anything'.

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TJ2503 · 22/10/2017 17:37

This has to be one of my favourite MN threads to date. Nothing to add other than having read the whole thread (and relating to OH) we both agree he is totally in to you (claps hands manically while squealing at a frequency only the dog can hear)

badbadhusky · 22/10/2017 17:44

Please tell me there a Christmas do coming up where alcohol might loosen your tongues enough for you to admit you like each other. You need at least a bit of a run up at your overseas trip.

randomuntrainedcuntowner · 22/10/2017 18:12

Shamelessly marking my place... please don’t say we have to wait til after Xmas though for any action! 😂

MortalEnemy · 22/10/2017 19:56

No Christmas party in our anti-social workplace, so no Dutch courage/comedy Christmas jumpers/mistletoe available to facilitate matters, I fear! Sorry to be so disappointing.

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KeepItAsItIs · 22/10/2017 22:44

I need to placemark to see if anything happens here Grin.

badbadhusky · 22/10/2017 22:46

Oh boo! Is there any scope to move things along this side of Xmas?

MyOtherProfile · 22/10/2017 22:49

A trip away together after Christmas? Yessss! Is it just the two of you?

OldPony · 23/10/2017 11:01

Do you think he might be a bit Aspie?

I've just started shagging my dentist who is HFA and there are similarities. I should have started my own thread in the beginning as it's been quite an exciting journey!

MortalEnemy · 23/10/2017 11:28

Yes, I do, OldPony, now that you mention it, though it's not something I've given a great deal of thought to.

He's mentioned it semi-jokingly himself, in relation to work obsessiveness and what he terms control-freakery, but I've noticed certain similarities with people I know who do have official diagnoses.

He does seem to need time alone to decompress, more than most people, and while he comes across as a talkative, extrovert 'people person' to most people, I can see him at times making a visible effort to put on a 'social face' if someone else comes along. He presents as NT, but there are times you can see, or I can see anyway, the effort it takes.

Can I ask what made you think that about him from the things I've said about him, Old? And are there things I should keep in mind so as not to appal him/frighten him off? Was asking him for coffee in fact a cruel thing to do? The time I've seen him most obviously concealing major inner upheaval was when I showed up unexpectedly at an event he was presenting at at which he was entirely brilliant and sexy.

Perhaps I've been deeply insensitive, and doing everything wrong. Blush

And do post about shagging your dentist it sounds most exciting. Grin I'm just afraid of dentists, and think the idea of shagging one is very grown-up indeed--...

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mapie · 23/10/2017 11:48

Shagging your dentist OldPony?

Before, after or during treatment?

OldPony · 23/10/2017 13:53

Ok, well I always had a bit of a crush on my dentist but my husband and I used to chat that he seemed a bit on the spectrum, due to the sort of art he had on the walls and the way he would talk to us. A bit shifty with the eye contact but quite direct.

Anyway, my husband and I separated 2 years ago this Xmas. On a pissed up night with my friend, I told her about hot dentist and in a moment of drunken madness, I responded to the latest reminder text from the practice, saying 'please can you change my records from Mrs Pony to Ms Pony, and can you find out if dentist wants to go on a date!' We thought it hilarious at the time and I then forgot all about it.

The next day, I was in a work meeting and saw a response text from the practice. I was all OMG I can't bear to read it.....but it ended up being a lovely message saying, we have amended your records and dentist's personal number is XXXX.

I texted him with effusive apologies and he responded saying he'd be happy to meet up. Well we went on a date and it wasn't great, I thought he definitely didn't fancy me and he sort of bundled me into a cab at the end and refused to share mine even though we live very close to each other. I also thought we sorted of bickered like siblings throughout and I definitely wasn't his type.

After then, we meet at fortnightly for a sort of matey after-work dinner.. All very friendly but not at all romantic and discussing his HFA a lot - apparently he doesn't talk about it very often and his parents never acknowledged it.

This went on for about a year literally. And get this, yesterday we went for Sunday lunch. He turned up with a very specific gift for me as I've been through a bad time. We had lunch and a couple of drinks, I commented on how pretty the waitress was and he said 'no one's as pretty as you'!!!

He then asked if I wanted a coffee. I said yes, but I want it at yours and then I'm going to take off all your clothes.

And I did! So almost 18months of pissing about and as of yesterday, we're dating!

MotherOfTwoDragons · 23/10/2017 13:59

Well, if you don’t tell the GDC, old pony, we won’t Grin. Mortal, this might take a while but it will go exactly where you want it to, methinks Smile

whiskyowl · 23/10/2017 14:06

Brilliant story OldPony. Love this thread! And so glad you guys got it together! Grin

OldPony · 23/10/2017 14:09

Haha! I think there are so many similarities regarding mixed messages, involving a lot of attention to complet rejection!

Be bold and persevere I say. I know that my dentist had a thing about stars being aligned and other nonsense. He puts it down to his HFA, never fitting in and looking for an alternative reality where he did fit in.

OldPony · 23/10/2017 14:10

Thanks Whisky!

MortalEnemy · 23/10/2017 14:20

I'm at work, and shouldn't be reading this at all, but am very tickled and intrigued by Old's wonderful dentist romance, which is definitely ringing bells all over the place for me ...

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OldPony · 23/10/2017 14:28

We must invite each other and the entire thread to our respective weddings!!

Shadow666 · 23/10/2017 14:29

According to my mum, who reads Mills and Boons, they always kiss on the last page.

OldPony · 23/10/2017 14:34

I'm still beaming from the very unexpected comment of 'no ones as pretty as you'!

It's definitely my 'nobody puts baby in the corner' moment and I'm 43 FFS!

MargoLovebutter · 23/10/2017 15:51

LOVE this thread. Mortal - so glad he is still in the running.

Old Pony - great story. I'm so impressed. I have no doubt that if I sent that message, I'd get asked to leave the dental practice!

Firstworlddramas · 23/10/2017 17:25

Can we start a new thread base don old pony, only we all text our dentists and see what responses we all get! 😂😂. Dh might be mad but hopefully would forgive me!

FeckTheMagicDragon · 23/10/2017 17:48

It too 18 months of chatting at work, awkward work drinks and colleagues (awful) match making attempts before I got together with my husband. We’ve been married over 10 years now :)

OldPony · 23/10/2017 18:00

Very happy for you to start a dentist thread in AIBU! It will be hilarious, you can reference me and I'm sure we'll be anhilated by our own vipers!

TimbuktuTimbuktu · 23/10/2017 20:16

I’m good pals with my dentist- think she might think it’s a bit weird if I ask her out Grin

I have loved this thread but gutted that there is no conclusion. It’s basically a beautiful ‘will they won’t they’ romcom in thread form.

CharlotteCollinsneeLucas · 23/10/2017 21:33

No conclusion yet...

Based on some of the stories on this thread, it'll get a conclusion in a year or so!