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situation with my colleague

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MortalEnemy · 21/09/2017 19:05

Let me start by saying that I am over 40, but if I sound like the most clueless of teenagers, that is because I am in relationships terms -- I was with the same man from my teens until a couple of years ago, and as I've been single since, and am the busy working parent of a demanding small child with no evening childcare, as a result I have pretty much zero experience of relationships, flirting etc.

Which is why I'm finding this confusing and talking to a bunch of strangers on the internet about it.

I've been in my current job at a large organisation (being deliberately vague) for just over a year. Over the last two or three months, I've found myself feeling close to a colleague from another department with whom I have intermittent meetings/dealings, after only vaguely registering him as a nice guy before that. Recently we seem to end up drifting together at any events we're both at, and falling into conversations which end up often being very long and wide-ranging, and often end up hovering by the lifts or in the corridor talking more, if it's something at the end of the day.

I thought I was overthinking this while I was away over the summer, but now it seems to be becoming more frequent, if anything, and the conversations more personal. It's a busy period at work, with a weekend event and a conference we both had to attend, and in the last five workdays alone, we must have spent four or five hours talking at a reception/on the way out of the building/on the way to the car park. I'm finding myself thinking about him more and more, and realised I find him attractive. He's 48, clever, funny, observant, and kind, and apparently amiably divorced, but clearly a besotted and very involved father to teenagers.

The issue, I suppose is that I'm completely confused about what this means. The last time I was in this situation I was 18, pretty and confident, and I was falling in love with the man I married. Now I am in my 40s, no looker, and my confidence has taken a big knocking for various reasons in the last five years, when I found parenthood tough, my career foundered, my marriage ended and I haven't been particularly happy -- my marriage was celibate for the last few years, and I have not thought of myself as someone who could be considered attractive for a very long time. I also have none of the basic comprehension of men that an average, single 40something woman has. At some level I am terrified, but mostly what I feel is as though I'm a beginner at a language everyone else seems to speak fluently.

How on earth do you know if someone reciprocates your feelings? How can you tell the difference between someone who likes you as a workmate and someone who is developing stronger feelings for you? I have butterflies. I'm off my food. When someone says his name I get a rush of pleasure. I am a teenager in the body of a 42 year old professional.

I realise this probably sounds like a complete non-problem to anyone with experience of adult dating, but despite being a functioning adult I am absolutely unable to conceive that anyone would find me attractive, and while we gravitate to one another when we encounter one another at work and can't stop talking, it's always 'accidental'. He's very self-deprecating, and I sense he's been out of the game for a while, too. I'm especially wary because presuming something about a workmate could have horrible consequences. Also, we're both originally from the same country, though have lived in the UK most of our adult lives, so I wonder whether this might just be nostalgia for 'home' from him. But then I think of all the times when an hour suddenly melted away just standing in the corridor, and the fact that he remembers absolutely everything I tell him.

Thank you for struggling through this any advice? How does this sound to you? What would you do? A bit of me hopes you will all say 'predictable office crush all in your head no basis in reality, no need to do anything'.

OP posts:
YoureAnArseholeDenise · 13/10/2017 11:05

Or Sherlock ruffling his hair after bursting in through the window just before kissing Molly.

MargoLovebutter · 13/10/2017 11:38

Actually just thinking how great it is that he still has hair to ruffle!

macnab · 13/10/2017 12:08

Margo - the bar is set high Grin

gunsandbanjos · 13/10/2017 12:23

Just read the whole thread and desperate to know what happens next.

ferriswheel · 13/10/2017 12:32

This is a great thread. Place marking!

MarthasHarbour · 13/10/2017 13:09

Actually the sexy hair rumpling thing has got me all unnecessary.... Blush

StealthNinjaMum · 13/10/2017 13:42

I've been lurking and now I want to place mark. Op you sound lovely and I really hope it works out.

throatmanship · 13/10/2017 13:46

Ive also been lurking and now want to placemark. I want to be the first in the line to buy a new hat....Grin

badbadhusky · 13/10/2017 17:25

This is where 50 Shades of Grey missed its mark for a lot of women. Where's the subtlety in a set of first editions, a new car, a light whipping? Real life is far more messy and ambiguous. Gnomic statements, hair messing and atypical office visits are way more interesting. Grin

ferriswheel · 13/10/2017 20:38

I am so excited by this thread!!! Well done op!!!!!!

Definitely don't pay any attention to me because I'm nearly divorced and don't have a clue but don't chase him cos he so fancies you!GlitterballStarWine

Wanderlust800 · 19/10/2017 13:00

any update on this, MortalEnemy??

MargoLovebutter · 20/10/2017 11:13

How is Mr Rumpled Hair MortalEnemy - dying to know!

MortalEnemy · 20/10/2017 23:16

After a Saturday day-long work event where he seemed to be walking determinedly away from me at every possible point so that I went home swearing off the whole thing and promising myself a life of peaceful celibacy or finding a man who wasn't ill at ease with most recognisable human emotions I started realising that for all his rueful, sexy rumpled hair thing, this man is as nervy as a beaten dog, as inexperienced as me, and so self-deprecating he clearly has no idea that his unadorned self might be in any way appealing to anyone sane.

He seems more confident in situations where he sees me first (rather than vice versa) or otherwise has the advantage he walked up behind me when I was zoning out while photocopying the other day and said 'Boo' very quietly, and it was weirdly compelling he was very formally dressed for an unusually formal event, plus barely-felt breath on the nape of the neck is an erogenous zone thing I didn't know I had.

But it's the quality of his attention that I like -- there was a casual lunch meeting this week where a female colleague asked me where I got the necklace I'd worn a day or two before, but wasn't very good at describing it, so when I couldn't remember which it was, I said 'What dress was I wearing?' to jog my memory. RumpledColleague described both dress and necklace accurately, and promptly got embarrassed when people started congratulating him on his photographic memory until I abruptly changed the subject. 'My God! Is that the time???' Grin

So, the downside is that he's still blowing hot and cold, but I understand why better, and that he has no clue that I'm even registering differences, or that people on the internet think he's rude. And talking to him is still one of the nicest things I've ever done.

The upside, possibly, is that we may both be going on a work trip involving several nights away in another country after Christmas.

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NoSquirrels · 21/10/2017 01:02

Are you absolutely sure you're not writing a M&B, Mortal? He sounds GREAT!

Your description of him doing better if he sees you first is reminding me of my slightly skitty young boy cat on the arrival of lovely calm girl dog in the house - he is SO interested (and a bit frightened), and she is SO steady. He'll approach on his terms, but the slightest friendly non-threatening interest on her part (dangerous coffee...) and he's running.

But I kind of know that in 6 months they'll be curled up together..

MortalEnemy · 21/10/2017 09:11

I'm pretty sure that when you write a Mills and Boon there are specific rules about the characters having to at least kiss by chapter ten, or something. Grin

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OrangeCrush19 · 21/10/2017 10:37

ME - we’re only halfway through chapter nine... Wink

I LOVE this thread. And you sound like the kind of woman want as my friend. Is your DC old which to introduce to the Fry & Laurie version of Jeeves and Wooster yet?

OldPony · 21/10/2017 11:32

Oh my god, he so fancies you! The boo thing is a game changer. Just snog him next time, I'm not waiting until your post Xmas trip!

whiskyowl · 21/10/2017 11:52

I think he likes you a LOT! But he's probably

  • terrified of starting a relationship with a work colleague due to complexity, gossip, potential fallout if it doesn't work
  • terrified of misreading signals and being accused of harassment (this is not a bad trait, btw, it shows he's a good guy)
  • desperate to get to know you better and really wishing that this were simpler!

I met my DP in similar circumstances. I asked him out. We got married 5 years later.

Mix56 · 21/10/2017 14:48

& worried about his XW & teenage daughter's reaction if he gets a gf

TwentyFive · 21/10/2017 23:57

YES!!!

CraftyYankee · 22/10/2017 00:03

I'm with Pony OP, don't make us wait until after Xmas. Surely you can find some random mistletoe around the office?Wink

wineandworkout · 22/10/2017 00:16

This thread is amazing :D

Mix56 · 22/10/2017 16:28

talking to him is still one of the nicest things I've ever done
That is so compellingly romantic !!!

ShiveryTimbers · 22/10/2017 16:43

What a very lovely thread. It sounds to me like you might both like each other quite a lot but that he is skittish...

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