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Don't know what to do anymore :(

101 replies

Sillyface29 · 08/08/2017 10:06

Good morning!
Sorry if this is going to be a bit long, please stick with it!
I've been with my partner 3 years. We have a 2 year old together and he has a child from a previous relationship.
I knew when I got with him he had a bit of a reputation for being a bit of a "bad lad" but didn't realise the full extent. The start of the relationship was a nightmare, he was a heavy drinker and took a lot of drugs on the weekend when he was out with the lads. He would disappear for full weekends and I would never know where he was.
I left him but then found out I was pregnant. He promised he would change, which he did and we moved in together.
For a few months everything was perfect, until his ex contacted me 2 weeks before my due date to say he had slept with her. Something he strongly denies, and although it was always there again I tried to work on our family. We had our son and his child came to live with us. Life was ok, he left his job, set up a business and everything was normal till xmas just gone.
He stole some money from our savings and started taking drugs and drinking again. He started going on weekend binges and not bothering coming home. I had enough, so packed some clothes for my son and I, then went to stay at my mums.
That was 7 months ago and since then my life has literally been a nightmare. He has let my son down so many times, he would rather go to the pub then pick him up. My son would be waiting with his little back pack on and I wouldn't get so much as a text to let me know he wasn't coming. Yet I still have him chance after chance with my son. In the end I just stopped getting him ready as I knew he wouldn't turn up.
He wouldn't pay me a penny for our son, I literally had to rely on my mum. He wrote his car off drink driving, he's lost his business and I find out he's got hundereds of pounds in drug debts- what still haven't been payed. He's been messaging other women, one of which was my school friend, practically begging for a date and making out I'm some crazy psychopath who stops him from seeing his son.
Honestly I could write a book about how much stuff he has done to us. But through all this all I wanted to do was help him as I desperately wanted to be the family unit for my son.
I finally got me and my son a house and it has taken me 3 months to get it how I wanted- he wouldn't give me any of my stuff so my mum and I had to literally start from scratch to buy everything again. All my savings have gone and my mum has spent well over her means to make sure we had everything. Something which I am majorly embarrassed about as before I had my son I've always worked and now I feel like such a failure having to rely on others.
Anyways 3 weeks ago, my partner said he had cut down his drinking and stopped taking drugs. Which he has stopped going out on weekends which is a massive improvement. But I still feel as though I don't trust him. He is spending more time with his son (not unsupervised im always there) and we are taking the children out as a family.

Now comes the dilemma. He wants to move in with us and start a fresh. Which I said we need to take it slow, as I don't really ready yet. Everything he has done over the past few months, I feel crippled with anxiety and me and my son are still at my mums till i feel ready to be alone (I know I sound like a big baby sorry). He doesn't understand that he's done anything wrong and is taking it personally saying I obviously don't love him if I can't spend anytime with him as a couple, and tell me I either wipe the slate clean or he leaves me as he can't wait around forever.

It's kept me awake the past 3 nights, because I don't want to lose him when I know he's actually trying to sort his life out. But how can I put my son in that position and make him vulnerable to be hurt again? He won't talk about anything he's done to us, just keeps saying we will never be happy if you keep bringing up the past- but why should he get away with all the hurt and heartbreak he has caused and just carry on as though nothing has happened.

I'm lying to my close friends as I know how much they dislike him after what he's done to us. But I am so frightened I'm going to lose him if I can't forget about the past and just take the step and put it all behind us. I have just getting a text off him saying can we stay together as a family till the weekend, and if it doesn't work we go our separate ways! I just don't know what to do, I'm actually scared to say no!

I realise how pathetic this post is, I sound like a needy child when in fact I'm a 30 year old woman. I just don't know what to do anymore, I don't even feel like me! I can't talk to anyone about it and I'm in desperate need of advice if anyone has been in the situation I'm in.

Arghhhh xx

OP posts:
ChickenBhuna · 08/08/2017 10:12

I'm afraid this seems like a 'cut your losses' situation OP.

Maybe you're scared to let him go because of time invested in believing in him.

PipGirl404 · 08/08/2017 10:17

Believe me - he won't change.
He will move in with you and things will be fine for a few months and he will find a way to go back to the drink & drugs.

He will always drag you down and disappoint your children - keep him well and truly out of your life you have years ahead of you to meet someone who will treat you with respect.

If he was genuinely on his way to 'sorting his life out' he would wait. He would take his time and show you he is changing. Right now all he wants is a warm bed and a quick shag.

ConversationCoat · 08/08/2017 10:18

I don't mean to sound flippant, but run. Run like the wind.

StormTreader · 08/08/2017 10:21

So his renewed interest in spending time with his son just happens to coincide with you living in a nice house with new stuff that he wants to move into? When hes already refused to give you anything from the LAST house you both lived in?

C0untDucku1a · 08/08/2017 10:22

Why do you want him back? He won't change. People don't change who they are. Are you happy to have someone who was so selfish and showed no interest in his son back living with you and your son?

Say no, that doesnt work for you. Repeat. Reprat. Repeat.

Go to cms for child maintenance. He is unreliable and his child is very low down ok his priorities list.

Have better expectations for your child.

whydoesitalwayshappentome · 08/08/2017 10:23

He wants in because you have a house I'm afraid.

Trust your anxiety about this man. You know deep down that he won't change.

Make a life for yourself and your son without him.

squirreltrap · 08/08/2017 10:23

Please please do not trust or let this man near your new house and your new life.

You (AND YOUR MUM) have put money and effort into getting you back on your feet and he WILL DESTROY it again.

He can be a father if he wants, but do not ruin your life with this man. He WILL ruin you again.

You should be so protective of your new house and life, it is not something you put in the hands of someone so irresponsible and nasty.

Perhaps read 'Women who love too much'
Perhaps go on Baggage Reclaim website

But most of all, get real and listen to your gut, listen to your friends and don't put your mum through it all again.

inlectorecumbit · 08/08/2017 10:28

Don't be daft lass, see this for what it is.
He sees a lonely vulnerable girl, who has her own house and is starting to turn her life around. He wants to be with you for the house -nothing else. He will just drag you down again and think of the damage to your DS.
Your friends can't all be wrong. also think of your DM who has done so much to help turn your life a round. Don't let her down.
More than anything don't let yourself down because you deserve so much better.

Finola1step · 08/08/2017 10:28

He wants to come back because you are sorted. New house etc. He can run away from his debts. He is using you. You are putting yourself and your dc at a huge risk.

If I was your mum, I would be furious with you for even considering taking him back. She has probably got herself into debt to get you back on your feet and you are going back to the very reason why.

I know my words are harsh and I make no apology. Sometimes the softly, softly approach doesn't work and I suspect this is one of them. Wake up. You are worth more than this.

squirreltrap · 08/08/2017 10:31

And by the way - if you let him come to your house and "live as a family until the weekend" you will never ever ever get rid of him, until the next time you find he has cheated/ spent all your money / whatever other murky stuff he gets up to

Do not let him come to your house. He is simply telling you things you want to hear " live as a family" BOLLOCKS. He doesn't mean it. He just needs somewhere to live. He doesn't love you - love is a verb that requires some actions to prove it. He might say it but nobody who loves someone treats them like he has you and your son.

You probably need to text him and say " I am not ready to live with you because you broke my trust"

Even do that as an experiment because I would put money on him turning instantly nasty. And that's not the behaviour of someone who loves you right?

Tatiannatomasina · 08/08/2017 10:36

No. Just no.

Chloe421 · 08/08/2017 10:38

Please do not allow this boy back into your life. Of course he has a right to spend time with his son as long as he is not causing him harm. BUT YOU deserve better. Focus on you, healthy relationships, your new home and your little one.

rider1975 · 08/08/2017 10:42

Hi Silly - it's a definite no from me too. The fact that he won't discuss his behaviour is key for me. You've done brilliantly to start turning your life around - ditch him for good - he's a loser and you're a winner.

N1tika · 08/08/2017 10:46

Tell him you'll think about it when he's:

  1. been alcohol and drug free for a year
  2. got up to date with the child support he still owes you
  3. replaced/refunded all the household items he stole/withheld from you
  4. apologised publicly for all his lies & the pain he has caused your family and friends when they had to pick you up & support you.
Huskylover1 · 08/08/2017 10:49

He is a grade A cunt, and you need a bloody shake woman.

He wants to move in with you, because he has lost all his money, and he knows that you are a complete push over, and you will put a roof over his head and pay for his food and beer.

He doesn't understand that he's done anything wrong and is taking it personally saying I obviously don't love him if I can't spend anytime with him as a couple, and tell me I either wipe the slate clean or he leaves me as he can't wait around forever

Well, if he thinks it's OK to lose all his money, lose his business, not turn up for is son, abuse alcohol, take drugs, disappear for days on end, not financially support his son, cheat on you with his Ex, well, that's all dandy then and he will do it all again, whenever he fancies. Because he doesn't think any of it is wrong. He's not sorry. He's making demands of you.

He has nothing. Not a pot to piss in. That's why he's knocking on your door.

WAKE UP !!!!!!!!!!!!

And, of course he slept with his Ex.

So, if you want to shack up with a lying, cheating, bankrupt, alcoholic drug abuser, yeh, let him move in. He's such a catch!!

If I was your Mum I'd feel SO betrayed if you got back with him. He left you destitute and your Mum has worked so hard to get you back on your feet. And this is how you are going to repay her?

GET A GRIP. AND FAST.

MsGameandWatching · 08/08/2017 10:52

I think you'd be an absolute fool to let him back in. You'll be back three months weeks lamenting what a terrible mistake you've made.

GiveMyHeadPeaceffs · 08/08/2017 10:55

Hi Silly I'm in agreement with all the other posters. I suspect you know that taking him back is a bad idea. Stay strong and cut this man child loose. You do not want him around as any type of role model for your ds.

Just tell him no.

MsGameandWatching · 08/08/2017 10:55

That said, my ex was very similar, very manipulative "new starts" "slate clean". It's all very familiar. I didn't know up from down by the end. It's a natural reaction to want to try to prove people wrong when they accuse of stuff - not loving him blah blah blah - but you have to know he doesn't believe that. He just wants in to your space because it will make life easier for him practically. He couldn't give a shit about you or your child. He's just doing and saying what he needs to to get under your roof.

LellyMcKelly · 08/08/2017 11:01

No no no no no no no. He will not change. Once he has his feet under the table he will be back to his usual tricks. He's in debt, has no job, and is an absolutely appalling example to you son. You deserve far better than this loser. If you can't do it for yourself, at least do it for your child.

sourgrapes28 · 08/08/2017 11:08

Please tell me you've seen the light op, he only wants you for what you have!
If I was your mum I would be beyond livid with you even thinking about it.

PollytheDolly · 08/08/2017 11:13

Absolutely not! All you and your mum have achieved and you're thinking about letting that useless article back in your life to set you back to square one again??!

Don't be daft!

Enjoy your life with your son. Good luck.

ThePinkOcelot · 08/08/2017 11:24

Looks to me like he's interested again because you you have got your life in order sgain. Don't let him spoil what you (and your mum) have achieved.

hellsbellsmelons · 08/08/2017 11:33

I can't believe you need to ask.
He will sponge off of you and do exactly the same all over again.
Why on earth you want to put your son through all this AGAIN is absolutely beyond me!
Tell him in no uncertain terms to FUCK OFF!
Free loading, cocklodging, abusive asshole!

thereallochnessmonster · 08/08/2017 11:43

Since then my life has literally been a nightmare. He has let my son down so many times... He wouldn't pay me a penny for our son, he wrote his car off drink driving, he's lost his business and I find out he's got hundereds of pounds in drug debts ... he's been messaging other women

Why do you want this waste of space back??

he doesn't understand that he's done anything wrong

Yes he does. He just wants a shag and an easy life - to sponge off you and be a cocklodger.

Do the Freedom Programme. Set your bar MUCH higher next time. He has almost destroyed you, been a SHIT father, and you want him back??? Words fail me.

You can't change him and you can't stop him. All you can do is control how you react to his shit behaviour.

Stop trying to fix him and don't let him move back in. I like N1kita's suggestion above:

*Say you'll reconsider when he's

  1. been alcohol and drug free for a year
  2. got up to date with the child support he still owes you
  3. replaced/refunded all the household items he stole/withheld from you
  4. apologised publicly for all his lies & the pain he has caused your family and friends when they had to pick you up & support you.*

It will never happen.

ImSoUnoriginal · 08/08/2017 11:46

Please don't allow him back into your life and home. He will always be your little boys Dad. If he wants to make a good impression on you he would concentrate on being a good dad.

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