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Leaving an angry man

116 replies

newmumintown · 29/07/2017 17:27

I am about to send this email to my husband (who is away from home at the moment). I should be pretty self-explanatory, but i just wanted to see if anyone had any thoughts...should I even send it, anything I can add that might make him realise he's become a bastard, recommendations about what to do next???
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where to start? i wanted to let you know how i am feeling and maybe get some sort of dialog going before we lose the ability to communicate completely.

i can not live like this anymore. i dont want the children to live like this anymore. i can't stop thinking that your anger and nastiness is only going to continue until you are on to your next family and you realise that you are making the same mistakes again. maybe by the time you get there you will be ready to do something about it. i just wish that it didnt have to come at the expense our beautiful children (and myself), who will be heartbroken.

it is ok and perfectly natural to be angry. what is not ok is using that anger on the people you love by swearing, shouting, calling names and lashing out. it is also not ok to get angry 10 times a day for fairly minor everyday occurrences. i know you think i'm blowing it out of proportion ("its not as bad as youre making out"), but i can already see the effects...x talking to me (and his brother) like shit because he sees you do it. x cowering when he makes a mistake. i still keep picturing x's face when you whacked him over the head with that inflatablel by the pool, sunglasses all skew-wiff, not knowing what had hit him. that's all i could think about when we got home.

you have so many fantastic fatherly qualities, but they are all overshadowed by the thoughts that you could turn at any time from loving, patient, generous and funny to scary and threatening. i feel ashamed that i have let this go on for so long, but never in a million years did i want my amazing kids coming from a broken home, shipped from parent to parent, no single place to call home. but i cant let it go on and, knowing that you dont think there is a problem on that front, i know that you wont do anything about it.

it's not up to me or the children to keep you happy to stop you from getting angry, it's impossible to stop anyone in the world from getting angry at some point...there is always going to be some event, problem, mistake, accident etc that is going to happen and the point is to know how to handle it in a way that doesnt scare, upset and traumatise your family. like it or not, there are times when you scare us. and those times are not rare.
deep down in my heart i know that things are never really going to change, you've as much as told me so by refusing to accept that it's a problem and getting some help with it. i keep hoping and believing and every time you tell me to fuck off or remind me how useless i am because i dont go out to work or scare or belittle the kids for some minor misdemeanour that hope continues to disappear and my hatred of myself for letting it happen gets worse.

i hope you can see this email for what it is...not 'having a go', not letting myself off the hook for my share of the blame (I certainly know I'm "not so fucking perfect"), not feeling sorry for myself, just being totally brutally honest about the breakdown of my marriage and the seriously shitty outlook for my family - the people i love the most in the world - for the foreseeable future. its completely shit and i actually feel sorry for you in some ways that this was the way you were brought up, living with an angry man, so this is normal for you. im also really really angry that you would wish that sort of childhood on your children. and ultimately, you are their most important role model for life. they look to you for how a man should behave, in life and in relationships and they are learning to treat the people they love with disrespect and aggression. to use force and intimidation to get what they want rather than discussion and reasonable behaviour.

and also we as a couple should be showing them how relationships should be...loving, mutually respectful, reasonable, happy...i dont see much of that on either side. in fact most of what they see is disdain and silence. we should be ashamed of ourselves. i know i am.

but again, we carry on, making the same mistakes, covering the same ground, having the same conversation about what life should be like. it cant go on. i dont want it to anymore. i just wish you would see it and want to learn how to control it, because its time to decide what we really want to happen and make it happen

OP posts:
Teabay · 19/08/2017 14:28

Hope you're ok, OP.

You are very brave.

Cake for you.

newmumintown · 19/08/2017 19:20

greenberet, just wanted to quickly say that my solicitor immediately progressed on the basis of unreasonable behaviour of my husband because of domestic abuse. The first words I said to him when I walked in were I want a divorce because I believe I'm in an abusive replationship. I described the main issues 1. He has threatened to kill me if I ever left and took his children 2. He has thrown furniture, punched walls 3. He called me a fcking cnt (incidentally this was in a minor disagreement about a pushchair). and he said it was very obviously domestic abuse. It sounds like your solicitor was the wrong person to help and very unsympathetic.
I have also just started the Lundy book and the scales have fallen further from my eyes. why did i ever stay so long?

In our recent conversations he has admitted to having a problem but that he always wanted to sort the problem out himself and it was me getting on at him about it that stopped him. Yes, he really said that in a conversation where he was trying to get me back. What a pig

OP posts:
HeartsTrumpDiamonds · 19/08/2017 19:30

Everything is always everyone else's fault. FFS.

OP you have done so well Flowers

rizlett · 20/08/2017 07:22

It can be difficult to work out why we stay. I guess we get taken in by their lies and of course abusers pick a specific type of person. They test how far you will bend over backwards for them in little ways right at the beginning of the relationship. [this is why its good to learn to truly see early warning signs in the beginning and not make excuses for someone before you get sucked into wanting to do anything to make it work.]

You are doing really well op - you are impressive and smart! Keep on reading and finding out more and when you are ready it might help to do the freedom programme to build up your self esteem.

Dragongirl10 · 20/08/2017 07:33

I have just read all your posts Op and l have to say Well Done for being so calm and strong for your sons.

It is so heartwarming to hear of a woman determined to stop the cycle of abuse and protect her children....be proud of yourself and good luck for the days ahead.

greenberet · 22/08/2017 10:36

OP I have just come on here because i feel i am near breaking point - i am going round in circles trying to sort out the pension following my divorce - because my X is high up in financial services and has connections with the company i need to deal with I am getting nowhere - i have been emailing them since may with the same old questions and getting the same old fob off - ive tried to get in contact with the cheif exec - he doesnt want to know - they have referred me to ombudsman - ive just checked the date of the court order - it is 29 march - this is how the abuse continues - i have had nothing so obvious although he threw things - kids toys out the door - and the x has accused me of abusing him - i had two harrassment letters from his solicitor - i am going to pm you for your solicitors details if you dont mind - i really need some help - this is beyond a fucking joke - there needs to be some recompense for those where the abuse is insidious - this is exactly how he has behaved probably since i met him!

MistressDeeCee · 22/08/2017 13:15

greenberet I was in a similar situation to you and went to Victim Support - they were brilliant and signposted me to other relevant organisations who could help with particular issues. You need to let somebody else share the thinking and action with you as it were, re your situation. Its not possible to deal with alone and neither should you try as you will be overcome with stress. Let others qualified to help women in these nasty situations, be a listening ear and advice focus

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 22/08/2017 13:23

OP, I'm doing a little dance for you. Well done! I hope he's not too unreasonable throughout the rest of the divorce. Bloody, bloody well done!!! Flowers

greenberet · 26/08/2017 11:14

thank you mistress ill look into it

NellyLW · 15/01/2021 04:40

I seriously could have written this myself. I'm in the same boat and have no one to talk to about it. I just randomly googled it and this came up. Feeling so hopeless.

HomeTheatreSystem · 15/01/2021 05:10

@NellyLW sorry to hear you are having similarly awful problems. This thread is an old one so you might be better off starting a new one of your own. I'm sure you will receive a lot of support Flowers

NellyLW · 15/01/2021 05:29

@HomeTheatreSystem thanks I've tried but it keeps logging me out before I can start my thread. Super wonky!

HomeTheatreSystem · 15/01/2021 07:04

@NellyLW oh that's annoying. Can you draft it elsewhere, then cut and paste into a new thread before it logs you out? If not maybe contact MNHQ for help?

newmumintown · 31/01/2021 00:10

@NellyLW I have just seen that you posted a couple of weeks ago in my old thread. I left the angry man 3.5 years ago and have never regretted it once. If you need any help, please give me a shout - even if it's just for moral support. I don't think i would have had the courage to go through with it all without the handhold of MN!

OP posts:
billy1966 · 31/01/2021 01:59

Well done just read your posts.
What a brave woman you were.

How has it all worked out for you?

Did he give you any further trouble?
I hope your boys are well.
Flowers

BlueThistles · 31/01/2021 02:28

wow well done OP ... what great steps you took... I hope you're in a happy place 🌺

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