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Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Leaving an angry man

116 replies

newmumintown · 29/07/2017 17:27

I am about to send this email to my husband (who is away from home at the moment). I should be pretty self-explanatory, but i just wanted to see if anyone had any thoughts...should I even send it, anything I can add that might make him realise he's become a bastard, recommendations about what to do next???
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where to start? i wanted to let you know how i am feeling and maybe get some sort of dialog going before we lose the ability to communicate completely.

i can not live like this anymore. i dont want the children to live like this anymore. i can't stop thinking that your anger and nastiness is only going to continue until you are on to your next family and you realise that you are making the same mistakes again. maybe by the time you get there you will be ready to do something about it. i just wish that it didnt have to come at the expense our beautiful children (and myself), who will be heartbroken.

it is ok and perfectly natural to be angry. what is not ok is using that anger on the people you love by swearing, shouting, calling names and lashing out. it is also not ok to get angry 10 times a day for fairly minor everyday occurrences. i know you think i'm blowing it out of proportion ("its not as bad as youre making out"), but i can already see the effects...x talking to me (and his brother) like shit because he sees you do it. x cowering when he makes a mistake. i still keep picturing x's face when you whacked him over the head with that inflatablel by the pool, sunglasses all skew-wiff, not knowing what had hit him. that's all i could think about when we got home.

you have so many fantastic fatherly qualities, but they are all overshadowed by the thoughts that you could turn at any time from loving, patient, generous and funny to scary and threatening. i feel ashamed that i have let this go on for so long, but never in a million years did i want my amazing kids coming from a broken home, shipped from parent to parent, no single place to call home. but i cant let it go on and, knowing that you dont think there is a problem on that front, i know that you wont do anything about it.

it's not up to me or the children to keep you happy to stop you from getting angry, it's impossible to stop anyone in the world from getting angry at some point...there is always going to be some event, problem, mistake, accident etc that is going to happen and the point is to know how to handle it in a way that doesnt scare, upset and traumatise your family. like it or not, there are times when you scare us. and those times are not rare.
deep down in my heart i know that things are never really going to change, you've as much as told me so by refusing to accept that it's a problem and getting some help with it. i keep hoping and believing and every time you tell me to fuck off or remind me how useless i am because i dont go out to work or scare or belittle the kids for some minor misdemeanour that hope continues to disappear and my hatred of myself for letting it happen gets worse.

i hope you can see this email for what it is...not 'having a go', not letting myself off the hook for my share of the blame (I certainly know I'm "not so fucking perfect"), not feeling sorry for myself, just being totally brutally honest about the breakdown of my marriage and the seriously shitty outlook for my family - the people i love the most in the world - for the foreseeable future. its completely shit and i actually feel sorry for you in some ways that this was the way you were brought up, living with an angry man, so this is normal for you. im also really really angry that you would wish that sort of childhood on your children. and ultimately, you are their most important role model for life. they look to you for how a man should behave, in life and in relationships and they are learning to treat the people they love with disrespect and aggression. to use force and intimidation to get what they want rather than discussion and reasonable behaviour.

and also we as a couple should be showing them how relationships should be...loving, mutually respectful, reasonable, happy...i dont see much of that on either side. in fact most of what they see is disdain and silence. we should be ashamed of ourselves. i know i am.

but again, we carry on, making the same mistakes, covering the same ground, having the same conversation about what life should be like. it cant go on. i dont want it to anymore. i just wish you would see it and want to learn how to control it, because its time to decide what we really want to happen and make it happen

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MistressDeeCee · 16/08/2017 20:56

Send the email if you feel the need to get things off your chest. Better than holding all inside. But do not even think of staying with this man or subjecting your DCs to living with a man enraged by life and taking it out on his family. He will blame you for everything. Let him. Walk away. You cannot change people who lack kindness and fairness. Staying with him will result in you crying bitter tears in years to come. By which time your DCs will have grown (& Mr Angry will get worse at that time) and got themselves as far away from Mr Angry as possible, which means you also will not see them as often as you would like

The only deviation I've seen from this kind of pattern is when the man grows older and gets an illness. Then sad wifey is left to wipe his arse

Id be off - the absolute rudeness of some man who thinks he has the right to take out his rages on me would be too much. Who the hell is he?! Walk and don't look back OP. Better life and people out there you don't need his noise and stress around you. He didnt make you he can't break you

MistressDeeCee · 16/08/2017 20:58

Just realised you've served divorce papers, I missed that bit. Well done to you OP you're brave, and doing the right thing by you and DCs.

foolonthehill · 16/08/2017 21:12

6 years ago I wrote a letter just like yours at the top pf this thread. Our children were 10, 9, 7 and 5 at the time. They were just as you describe yours.

We separated that day.

I have been divorced for 3 years now. The children are whole again and despite the fact he is still the person he was the damage he can do/has done is limited by the calm, supportive home that the DC come back to. Now they are older my teens only see him if they wish, the younger ones will get there too. They are experts in spotting manipulation and talking about friendships/relationships that are out of balance (without me ever criticising their father...just watch a few films.).

OP it is a scary path but oh so much better to be out.
We are pretty poor but I don't care....we manage and it IS GREAT!

Good luck. Keep on going. Accept lots of help from people who really do care and ignore those who don't.

LuxuryWoman2017 · 16/08/2017 21:48

I want to cheer when I read women like you who are brave enough to leave these arsewipes. I managed to leave mine a few weeks ago and it's just wonderful to live in peace. You have a great life to look forward to truly.

newmumintown · 16/08/2017 21:56

Thank you so much everyone it really helps to hear similar stories or even just words of solidarity! I only have 2 more nights under the same roof of this dick. I have suddenly realised what a man-child he really is and could laugh at his desperate attempts to get a reaction from me now he senses I have given up. I do need to remember though that he is a scary man and be careful. Not long to go...

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Aperolspritzer123 · 16/08/2017 22:05

Newmum - definitely be careful, not long now.. try not to give anything away. Thinking of you

ChinkChink · 16/08/2017 22:08

Solidarity from me, for sure.

I also tried the letter [email didn't exist at the time!] and like so many others here might as well not have bothered. It was counter-productive.

It was hard starting a whole new life but SUCH a relief to have peace and to not have to walk on eggshells. I prize peace of mind above all. I should have got out much earlier.

So good on you.

MorrisZapp · 16/08/2017 22:41

Will you be away with family when he gets served? Just thinking about the logistics, hope you are with people who care about you and can help you through this.

newmumintown · 17/08/2017 06:50

I'm planning on taking the youngest, picking them up from school and going straight to my mum's house. She's then going to take the children to her friends for the afternoon as he will definitely know where I'll head. Then he can confront me without the children seeing but with the knowledge that my dad is there and that he will be arrested if he upsets me and I call the police (There is a power of arrest attached to the non-molestation order). No idea how to handle school dropoffs next week though

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Naicehamshop · 17/08/2017 07:02

Well done - you are being so strong.

Maybe have a word with the school and let them know that next week might be a bit difficult - I'm sure they will be understanding. Flowers

rizlett · 17/08/2017 07:24

Just take it one step at a time newmum. Only think about what you need to do today and if that's too much only think about what needs to be done in the next minute.

It sounds like you have really thought this through and worked out the best way to get to where what you want to be.

hellsbellsmelons · 17/08/2017 10:07

Wow - that's quick work OP.
Seriously well done.
You've taken control and you are protecting yourself and your lovely DC.
You have a good exit plan in place.
One more night and you are 'outta there'!

It's not going to be easy but you know that.
Don't take any shit.
If he kicks off, call the police immediately.
Don't wait for him to escalate.

You are showing your boys strength and determination and that you don't treat women the way your 'D'H does.
Keep going.
Try to keep strong. You will have weak moments and wobbles.
Just come on here and vent away.

daydreamnation · 17/08/2017 14:06

Well done you, you're so strong!
Have you informed school? Make sure they have all the info they need to protect your dc when they are at school.
Good luck op Flowers

newmumintown · 17/08/2017 19:14

Been in to see headteacher today and she was great. Wish I hadn't cried like such a baby but it seemed like the biggest step so far. Story's straight for tomorrow, wish me luck!

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Blackadderspants · 17/08/2017 20:20

Rooting for you OP - a really brave thing to do Flowers xx

redfairy · 17/08/2017 23:29

Gosh OP. I really feel for you and how you're going to need superstrength tomorrow and the coming days. Just remember each day is a step closer to a brighter life Flowers

Beelzebop · 17/08/2017 23:48

OP, I have been reading your thread. Food luck for tomorrow. You are doing brilliantly!

mswater · 18/08/2017 05:24

Good luck today

Desmondo2016 · 18/08/2017 08:16

Good luck today NMIT. Hoping he realises you are the stronger one and doesn't make any stupid moves to try and bully you. One thing I took ages to realise after i finally stood up to my abusive exh (I mean years) that his general reaction was one of anger that I dared, not upset because I had. Says it all really doesnt it!

ClopySow · 18/08/2017 08:33

Good luck today. You're very brave.

Afterthestorm · 18/08/2017 10:02

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newmumintown · 18/08/2017 10:02

Sweaty palms this morning. An hour and a half to go. Luckily he just picked a fight with me about eggs (ffs) so I don't feel bad about dropping this on him now

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newmumintown · 18/08/2017 10:03

Ps Thanks for all the support it really is helping!

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hellsbellsmelons · 18/08/2017 10:11

Blimey - you must be shaking like a leaf.
Freedom awaits.
Not long now.
Good luck!
Flowers and a very UnMN ((((((HUG))))))

Putyourhandsintheair · 18/08/2017 10:57
Flowers