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Make up on shirt

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deniselydiablack · 23/07/2017 11:14

Bit of history to not drip feed: Me and DP have been together for over 6 years, we've got 3 DDs and we have been really happy, have a great connection, sex life is good and we enjoy each others company usually and argue very little. Kids have brought the usual stresses and strains, no sleep and not sitting down together and talking very often. I'm also a SAHM now because he earns ££ and also recently had a pay rise, I was a TA but got made redundant so he agreed it was for the best and he would support until I found something I wanted to do.

I've noticed over the last 6 months while I've been at home he's been distant, not doing little things etc so I mentioned it and he said it's just that we don't get time to spend together. I started feeling a bit suspicious, not sure where it came from but when checking the washing I looked at his shirts and saw foundation on the arm and lipstick on the bottom half which were not mine! I didn't say anything and waited for the next ones to see if there's more, there have been 3 more with foundation on collar/arm and glitter lipgloss on the bottom half. I'm finding it hard to believe it's innocent but trying. Thinking back, he's been working late and he's also mentioning a female colleage a lot who he does have to work with closely. I've tried to wait it out and see if there's anything else before accusing him because I know he will deny it. I was a bit off with him but didn't say why and he bought me flowers home from work.

I looked at his phone (which I have never done) and saw usual work messages with this person but also I started to type the name in the search box to find phone entries and a search had been done for her. Now I think it's because he's tried to search to delete the entries as there are only 2 and I know there should be more calls than that, they work together so closely. I also found a memo which said 'DELETE' like a reminder to cover tracks? But this could have been for anything! I hate this! What do you think? Help!

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mylittlepony6 · 23/07/2017 11:26

Sorry OP, it doesn't look good. If you think about it, it would be really difficult to get make up on someone else's clothes in an innocent way. Have you tried asking him about it? You should be able to tell things by his reaction? X

AgentProvocateur · 23/07/2017 11:30

Sounds like he's definitely been with someone else. You should start by making sure you have ackear picture of the family finances and maybe look for work. You're vulnerable financially - are you married to him?

deniselydiablack · 23/07/2017 11:31

I haven't asked him about the makeup but did say how distant he is and that I feel a bit insecure and hope that he's not having an affair or something. He looked me straight in the eyes and said if there's one thing you can trust me not to do it's that, then hugged me and told me he loved me.

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user1486956786 · 23/07/2017 11:32

Two total opposite views here- wait this one out and get something more solid first. If he knows you are onto him he will just get more cautious and you will go mad with paranoia and never knowing.

  1. Make up that many times - does he want to be caught by you?!?
user1486956786 · 23/07/2017 11:33

Cross post, ignore my number 2 point

user1486956786 · 23/07/2017 11:34

Also , lip stick on bottom half - where it would have been tucked in?!

deniselydiablack · 23/07/2017 11:35

I know user, it can't be anything else can it :(

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CremeFresh · 23/07/2017 11:36

When you say 'bottom half' do you mean the shirt tails ?

It doesn't look good Op Flowers

SleepFreeZone · 23/07/2017 11:37

It doesn't sound good OP 🙁

Huskylover1 · 23/07/2017 11:38

Lipstick on the bottom of his shirt. My first thought was blow job. (sorry)

You need to get a look at his phone, e-mails, laptop, facebook etc etc.

Failing that, I think I'd park up near his work and see if he exits (after overtime), with her in tow.

Is he secretive with his phone?

deniselydiablack · 23/07/2017 11:39

They are on the front about 3 buttons up where it tucks in. They are small marks when fresh I saw it was pink lipgloss after a few hours it they turned into a grease mark with no colour. The first one was pink lipstick. Less than a little fingernail size.

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deniselydiablack · 23/07/2017 11:41

Yes Huskylover I think this too, not secretive but has been more attached to it recently. He leaves it around and if I picked it up to look at photos he wouldn't mind.

What do you think to his reaction? Looking me straight in the eyes and saying he wouldn't do it?

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Alfiemoon1 · 23/07/2017 11:42

Foundation on a shirt once may but excusable he could of brushed passed someone. But 3 times doesn't look good and I can only think of one reason for the lipstick on the bottom of his shirt. Sorry op this doesn't look good to me

Alfiemoon1 · 23/07/2017 11:43

Yes husky blow job was what came to my mind as well

AngelaTwerkel · 23/07/2017 11:44

What do you think to his reaction? Looking me straight in the eyes and saying he wouldn't do it?

My friend's DH looked her in the eyes and swore on his child's life he wasn't having an affair. Guess what ...? Hmm

Sorry OP, it really doesn't look good. Lipstick or foundation one time on a shirt could possibly be explained away, but consistently? No way.

Cuckingfunt1981 · 23/07/2017 11:46

Sorry op I'd be uber suspicious especially as he made that comment about never having an affair . Red flag I'm afraid

mylittlepony6 · 23/07/2017 11:46

I think it is really sad how vulnerable SAHMs seems to be on MN. It's like the person who earns all the money has all the power. OP, is there any way you could go back to work so you would be in a better position should the worst happen?

CremeFresh · 23/07/2017 11:46

Some people are very good liars. If he's already overstepped the mark by having an affair , then lying about it is just the next step.

Lucked · 23/07/2017 11:47

I also think BJ and the foundation on the arm is from where he has been holding her head. Sorry

deniselydiablack · 23/07/2017 11:47

Thanks Angela, you're right I know. Think it's desperation.

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JustMumNowNotMe · 23/07/2017 11:47

I agree, make up on his shirt once is fairly eaay to excuse, but several times?! And lipstick at the bottom of his shirt?!

I'm so sorry OP, but I would be thinking tbe worst too Sad

Cuckingfunt1981 · 23/07/2017 11:47

What type of job does he do with this women ????

PaperdollCartoon · 23/07/2017 11:49

Sorry OP, it doesn't look good. Make up on the arm could be innocent but anything lip related on the bottom of the shirt there aren't many ways for that to get there. Though of course you never know.

I think he'd probably deny it heavily so might be worth trying to snoop a bit more.

CremeFresh · 23/07/2017 11:51

You poor thing , how are you going to tackle it ?

deniselydiablack · 23/07/2017 11:53

They do joint projects together. Good thinking Lucked but the arm mark isn't in the right place.

So now you've confirmed it (I thought this too) what shall I do, can't get on phone too much because it leaves a trace everytime I open different apps eg whatsapp/e-mail etc it logs in and leaves the time. I don't want to use a spy app.

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