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A female friendship one. Friend who ghosted me wants to be back in touch

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iceicebabyplease · 19/06/2017 16:05

Six years ago my closest friend stopped talking to me. She blocked me on social media. Refused to answer my calls and bad mouthed me to a lot of people in our local community.

I am not sure what this was triggered by, but I have a few suspicions: I used to work with her and I had just got a job in a different town which was a promotion where I had to move away. We had an over intense friendship (seeing each other every day, at each other’s houses after work, sharing money,) and so I can see that the change could have made her angry or upset if she felt stuck where she was.

I also got married and started having children at the time and she might have predicted that I’d no longer be at her beck and call – even though I would never have sacked the friendship because I got married or had DC. I really value my friends.

Thirdly, she ended up having a relationship with my abusive ex who I’d been with ten years (before I met my husband.) She had been the one who talked me through the end of the relationship, saw his worst behavior, helped me get out, pack my bags etc. She got with him about 4 years ago, and broke up with him 2 years ago. ( I had heard she was with him through mutual friends although their relationship has now ended.)

I never would have stopped speaking to her or thrown years of friendship down the toilet, for any of these reasons, but she seemed to not have much faith in that. She was adopted and fostered throughout her childhood and always said she has a hard time trusting people.

So while I sympathise with that, I really don’t want to be friends with someone who can treat me like this.

The problem is, she has done quite a lot of damage to my reputation. We work in the same industry, so it’s professional damage as well as social damage. She is a very charming person upon first meeting, much more charming than I am. Good looking and passionate and funny. She makes friends quickly and gains loyalty quickly, and I have noticed that it has greatly affected my relationships with some people refusing to work with me or to know or acknowledge me socially, especially some of the big clients in the area. This was especially a kick in the teeth when I moved companies (from the one we worked at) as she made it her life's mission to ruin all my client relationships.

I have no idea what she’s been saying.

She and I still have mutual friends, who – every time I’ve asked what the problem is – just shrug and tell me she’s jealous and I need to rise above it. And I have. It has been six years after all and I’ve survived but been terribly hurt.

Anyway, a mutual friend has been in touch to tell me that she thinks my old friend wants to be back in touch with me and would I like her to organize a coffee for the three of us. My first reaction was YES. I have suffered for six years not knowing what it was that caused the rift, and suffered the professional damage too. And while there is no way I will be close friends with her ever again, I would welcome the opportunity to clear the air and neutralize things so I (we?) can both move on.

Mutual friend said okay great, I’ll organize it. She forwarded a text she received back from my old friend, positive about meeting and trying to find a time and a day. Old friend has also unblocked me on social media so I can now see the public version of her profiles, I presume so if we become “friends” and “add” each other again she doesn’t have to talk about why she did it in the first place.

Mutual friend messaged me last night and told me that I must keep it “light.” That I mustn’t jump in with a “why did you do this to me?” and that we should all talk about neutral subjects during our coffee. But the thing is, I have been so hurt. And she’s done so much, that I feel this coffee is now designed to disregard my feelings, sweep things under the carpet and re-establish a fake friendship where nothing is ever spoken about and she gets the benefits of friendship with me again without ever having to explain her behavior.

What happened was and is a huge deal to me. At the times that I have seen her in public since she stopped speaking to me, my heart has pounded in my chest and sweat has pricked under my armpits, and I’ve thought about it for hours afterwards and gone over it with other people.

But I am also tempted by the opportunity this presents to undo the professional damage. Even if she is a total cow, who doesn’t give a toss about me, simply neutralizing things, forgetting it never happened, being friends again on social media (a big deal in our job btw) should restore things professionally for me.

WWYD?

OP posts:
CaoNiMartacus · 19/06/2017 16:16

I wouldn't bother, to be honest. Also, Mutual Friend sounds like an irritating busybody. I don't think you need either of them in your life.

AguacateMaduro · 19/06/2017 16:23

I recognise this story, and I don't mean that in a rude way, I just mean that your story is so shocking I remember it.

I was in an abusive relationship and if any of my friends had disbelieved my account of what happened and shown that by having a relationship with my X that would be it for me, and that's before there are extra considerations like her trashing you at work.

But I would be curious to know if she wants to meet for coffee to apologise.

NurseButtercup · 19/06/2017 16:24

You said she did this:

I have noticed that it has greatly affected my relationships with some people refusing to work with me or to know or acknowledge me socially, especially some of the big clients in the area. This was especially a kick in the teeth when I moved companies (from the one we worked at) as she made it her life's mission to ruin all my client relationships.

Why would you want to be friends with her after she went that far? Could you trust her?

iceicebabyplease · 19/06/2017 16:25

Aguacate yes I have posted about it before.

I agree with you, maybe an apology will come. But I hate that I have to make myself vulnerable in order to receive it (or not?)

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SpongeBobJudgeyPants · 19/06/2017 16:30

It doesn't sound from what has been said as if you are getting an apology at the meeting...they are already setting an agenda for what can't be talked about. If she was serious maybe the apology should have come first? I think meeting in this way is emotionally risky for you. I feel that you may never get the answers that you want, sorry.

importanceofhappiness · 19/06/2017 16:35

I would not be rekindling this friendship. I thought you should go for it until I read the part about your 'friend' damaging your reputation. That is unforgivable and I wouldn't allow such a person back into my life.

PerpendicularVincent · 19/06/2017 16:36

I honestly wouldn't consider going. She's been vile and dishonest and you will never be able to trust her. Mutual friend sounds almost as bad.

Steer well clear, why stress yourself out?

Fishface199 · 19/06/2017 16:43

...they are already setting an agenda for what can't be talked about.

This.

No way should you meet her. Because

  1. what she did was malicious and cruel 2)shes already setting up boundaries at the meet up so you can't rightfully ask ehy she did that
  2. most importantly you WON'T get any answers and you WON'T recapture that old friendship.

I say this because she hasn't apologised to you and asked for forgiveness instead she's just set a rule bound meet up. Hardly contrite. She probably will justify her own behaviour. It takes guts and courage to apologise and she doesn't sound like she has any.

More like shes run out of friends and wants to use you as a back up.

winterinmadeira · 19/06/2017 16:43

No don't do it. I was in a similar situation years ago and originally I said yes to the meet but when I thought about it it would have been of no use to anyone. You want closure and a reason and you won't get it. She will be able to brush it all under the carpet and feel better about herself. So no don't do it.

LucyFuckingPevensie · 19/06/2017 16:45

Do not go there. You will never get your answers or an apology, she will probably even try to blame you for everything and justify her behaviour.
If she was genuinely remorseful you would be able to have a grown up and reasonable discussion about the situation, she is already controlling everything by stating what can and can't be talked about.

user1495832265 · 19/06/2017 16:46

I had a friend who cut all contact with me, inexplicably, about 10 years ago. 4 years later she sent me an email at Christmas, very chatty, no apology or explanation but wanted 'to be friends again'. She disappeared again within the month and I've never heard from her since.

Your experience has been much worse than mine. Don't do it OP.

Enidblyton1 · 19/06/2017 16:46

I wonder what her real reason is for wanting to be friends again? Can you think what motive she might have? I'd be very wary of getting involved. Your professional reputation (and your sanity) could potentially be further damaged?

BeesOnTheWing · 19/06/2017 16:47

If it were me I would only go if I could be dispassionate about it.

It could be interesting to get an insight into her about the business angle and perhaps useful to you to put the discomfort to rest.

I would make sure I was looking after my own interests.

rollonthesummer · 19/06/2017 16:47

I Don't know why you're bothering to be honest?

LovesPeace · 19/06/2017 16:51

I ghost people. Every one nearly of my long term friends, I have just decided to 'off' one day. I am not sure why I do it. I think I just find it easier to disappear them in my head than tell them why I'm fed up.

And even I would say 'don't meet your ex friend'.

LucieLucie · 19/06/2017 16:52

Agree with pp, don't do it.

Although I'd probably instantly feel the same way you did with the possibility of finding out why she was horrible and resolving it, I don't think that's what will happen.

I think they have an agenda. Mutual friend is not to be trusted.
Why is she dictating to you what you've to say and not say?? How dare she!
After 6 years I'd have thought too much water under the bridge and lives moved on.

Professionally she has already damaged your reputation, that can never be undone.

Don't give her the opportunity to cause anymore damage.

Apart from anything else, her character is distinctly disloyal, when I got to read the bit about her shacking up with your abusive ex, that's just a complete no go.

Be non-committal about any arrangements but don't say anything negative about her to this mutual friend, do t even say you want to leave things. Just say yeah we'll need to get something arranged soon for a coffee, then don't!

SweetLuck · 19/06/2017 16:53

I would be very wary if I were you. If you're looking for answers they've already set it up tht you won't be getting any. I mean the whole, this is what you can/can't talk about, WTF?! Who is she, Mariah Carey?

HundredMilesAnHour · 19/06/2017 16:53

Don't do it, she isn't worth it. The fact she has deliberately tried (and to an extent succeeded) to damage your professional reputation, as well as personal, makes this a no-go. You have everything to lose and nothing to gain from meeting her, especially when you clearly won't be given the opportunity to ask the questions you want answers to. This meeting is all on her terms. What happens if you don't follow her "rules"? More badmouthing of you? I'd just tell you mutual friend that you moved on a long time ago and see no value in meeting.

PickAChew · 19/06/2017 16:54

If she only wants this meeting all on her own terms then I wouldn't bother. ifYou are expected to keep it light then, already, any potential reconciliation has been jeopardised by her taking all the power and not caring about your pov.

LumelaMme · 19/06/2017 16:55

I wouldn't go. The rules are being set beforehand by the one who was really unpleasant to you, so she's not doing this for your benefit, is she?

As a PP said, possibly she has run out of friends. Unpleasant people do eventually discover that this happens to them.

ThanksMsMay · 19/06/2017 16:58

Stay away!

This isn't even a case of keeping your friends close but your enemies closer as you were still friends when she decided to ruin you. Stay the fuck away.

StormTreader · 19/06/2017 16:58

Absolutely dont.

The cynical side of me is saying "shes found it very useful to be able to get a leg up career-wise by slandering you, and after 6 years people are starting to find it a bit weird shes still talking about it when she hasnt even seen you for so long. She wants to get back in a bit to 'refresh' things so that she can do the exact same thing all over again".

Donttouchthethings · 19/06/2017 17:00

It sounds like you're in danger of being ruled by your imagined perceptions of other people's perceptions of you. That's quite a muddly way to live.

I also don't like the agenda thing. If she was truly sorry, surely she'd be meeting you alone to apologise?? She's not doing that so what's it really all about? Sounds like more nonsense you probably don't need.

Personally, I wouldn't be fb friends with her again, unless she'd really changed, but that's me.

It's your call.

KellyMarieTunstall2 · 19/06/2017 17:03

I wouldn't meet her or rekindle. She has caused you a great deal of upset and damaged your professional reputation. Don't go back for more. Its unlikely you'll receive an apology or explanation, save yourself the trouble and heartache. You sound like a nice person, she sounds like trouble.

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