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mylittlestar update - Oh sh**, oh sh**, oh sh**. Why didn't I listen? Am I a complete mug? Will I ever get over this??????

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mylittlestar · 19/03/2007 08:30

Posted a bit this weekend but just couldn't think straight enough to start a thread.

Ok to brifly summarise for those who don't know - dh left me and ds last year after 14 years together (since age 16) as he needed 'space', had many issues in his life (work, parents split up, closest person in his family passed away), suffering from depression too.

It killed me, absolutley killed me, but I felt our marriage was worth saving and supported him 100%, let him come and go as he pleased, let him have the family life (to see what he was missing... lol!) and the single life.

People in RL (and on here - HappyDaddy in particular, you were right!) said I was being naive. That he was having his cake and eating it. That he needed to grow up and face his responsibilities. Why did he have the 'right' to walk away and come back when he wants. And many people also said that he probably wanted to go and see other women.

I defended him to everyone. Absolutely everyone. I had 100% faith that once he got the 'living alone, putting himself first' thing out of his system he'd come back to me and ds and we'd be stronger than ever.

Friday night he was staying with me but disappeared for 2 hours ('gym'?!). Sat morning he got up at 7.30 am (went out to get 'breakfast and the papers'!) disappeared for 2 hours and switched off his phone when I rang him.
Alarm bells started. He'd pushed me too far. When he got in the shower I checked his phone. 2 messages. Unknown number... 'why didn't you want to kiss me, is everything ok, can you pick me up from work later....'

I confronted him immediately. He tried to deny it. But gave in after a few mins. He's been having an affair with a 19 year old.

I was shaking uncontrollably. (Now Can't stop being sick.) But I held it together.

We talked. I listened to him. I then went straight up to where she works and confronted her. Complete slut. I was really strong and dignified, asked her to explain her side, then calmly walked away. She was white as a sheet and shaking like a leaf. But said he pursued her and she had every right to see who she wants, especially as we're 'separated'...

I then asked him to end things with her, which he did immediately. She then got really really pssed off and got in touch saying how much she loved him, that they love each other, and* that shes pregnant!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, here's what hurts. Yes the affair. The deception. At a time when I'd givien him everything I could to support him.

The fact he had unprotected sex with her. (I now have no idea if the pregnancy is true or a desperate lie to keep him.)

The fact he swore leaving was nothing to do with seeing other people and nothing to do with his age. Then he actively seeks out a 19 year old to do this with (he's 30 this week)!

He swears he doesn't love her. It was about selfish attention seeking and excitement. And ironically, after months of wanting him to come back to me and ds and say that I'm all he wants in the world - he has finally said it!

I know deep down in my heart I can forgive him. I stick by my committment to my marriage, I love him to bits, and I think we can have a happy life. I honestly do.

He's seen the grass isn't greener. But why did he have to test it

But how the hell do ever get close to him again? How will I ever get the thoughts of him and her out of my head?

Have I allowed him to have this affair by letting him have the double life? Am I a complete mug?

Ok, next step is to get STI checks. To find out about the pregnancy. And for us to talk and continue with the relationship counselling (which was working wonders and bringing us really close again?!?!) - whilst he had an affair in the background!

My heart isn't broken, it's numb. Inside is just emptiness, sadness, sheer hurt beyond words. But somewhere in there is my love for him. Can I get through this and ever have a happy marriage again?
I'd like positive stories or guidance. But if you think I'm a complete a* hole then tell me.

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mylittlestar · 29/03/2007 15:54

totally agree lilyloo

and I am at your ability to do some work! I'm taking work home as have done absolutely nothing all day!!

Also - do you guys think I'm mad - I'm considering driving down to London tomorrow afternoon (from the North West so long drive!), going for a night out with friends, then driving home Saturday day as we have plans for Saturday evening!

These are my best best best mates that I've known for about 16 years (since school) and it's it's the only chance the 4 of us will get to meet up before August, and I could really do with a good catch up and good laugh.
We considered meeting half way but it's not possible. Train is £200+. It's either I drive to London, or miss out.

What do you think?? Am I mad to even consider it?

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Ifonlyhewould · 29/03/2007 15:57

We think you are amazing for allowing DH back in your heart and you ask us if we think you are mad for driving to London??? we are your fan club!! You can do no wrong, a long drive to london sounds great!!

I think a girly treat is just what you need, you go for it.

Cashncarry · 29/03/2007 15:57

Good Lord - DO IT! It'll be hard work all that driving so I'd be tempted to blow the £200 on the train (or the coach is good if you're feeling less flush).

You won't see them until August and you'll be so gutted if you miss out!

I am also being a social butterfly this weekend! One of the girls who works at DD's nursery has invited me to her birthday do

LilyLoo · 29/03/2007 15:58

Go , Go ,Go you would be mad not too. London fantastic i went with friend couple months ago it's not too bad about four hours from us, North West too, although Fri aft can be bit congested. We only live once get out there. You deserve it.

paulaplumpbottom · 29/03/2007 15:59

I think a night out sounds like just what the doctor ordered.

LilyLoo · 29/03/2007 16:00

In fact MLS i think i need some of that. No work in the week and out all weekend sounds Fab

mylittlestar · 29/03/2007 16:00

Ah thanks so much! I really didn't know what to do but I just know I'll have a ball with them.

I'll also be able to pick one of the girls up on the way (the other 2 live in London), but at least we can have a good chat/sing in the car on the way down there so it might make the drive a bit easier!

I'll go!

Thanks guys!

Cashncarry enjoy getting down with the "yoof" - lol!!

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Ifonlyhewould · 29/03/2007 16:07

MLS could i ask you something, please dont be offended. But can i ask if you are having doubts about this trip because you will be spending the night away from home and erm.. DH?

Hope you don't mind me asking

Cashncarry · 29/03/2007 16:08

have a great time MLS - the ride down in the car with your friends sounds cathartic in itself - make sure you stock up on all your "theme tune" CDs - y'know, the ones you used to put on while getting ready to go out and downing turbo cider - or was that just me

Aah yes, am slightly perturbed about hanging out with girls some ten years younger than me! There is another Mum going who's just as nervous as I am! We both feel privileged to have been included - DH thinks we're being naive and will end up paying!

Ifonlyhewould · 29/03/2007 16:11

cashncarry - your DH is feeling rather insecure at the thought of you having a night out hence the sarky comments!

LilyLoo · 29/03/2007 16:12

White lightening for me cnc

melminx · 29/03/2007 16:15

go mls. am vv lost touch with all my old school mates over the years and in 5 yrs lived where i am only friends i have made will not go out in the evenings away from dh's. to say people round here was born with silver spoons up bum is an understatement these people got whole flippin cutlery set!! and tbh think it will do your dh good to sit and wonder what you are getting up to in london!!!

Cashncarry · 29/03/2007 16:16

IFHW - I know! He's sooo transparent!

Lilyloo - LOL! My special pleasure was Diamond White and K!

mylittlestar · 29/03/2007 16:17

Ifonlyhewould yes it did cross my mind. I think my main doubts were over the tiredness and the drive there and back within 24 hours followed by a night out on Saturday!

But also I'm worried about leaving him on a Friday night I guess. She'll be out, drunk, and probably texting. And I'd guess he'll probably get his dad to watch the baby and go for a pint himself.

Deep down I don't think he would DARE even go to the same pub as her, let alone see her (as no doubt I'd get a message from her to let me knnow!). But yes it is a bit of a worry leaving him while everything is still so raw.

But maybe it will do me good just to get away from the situation and have a good night.

And maybe it might make him realise what he's missing out on!!

(I can hope!)

Cashncarry, not naive at all! Obviously they think enough of you as a friend to invite you along, the age doesn't even come into it. You can laugh (and drink!) as well as the rest of them!

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mylittlestar · 29/03/2007 16:18

Diamond White and K for me too!!!!!

Right, off to pick ds up now so will catch up later.

Thanks everyone xx

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Cashncarry · 29/03/2007 16:22

MLS - from what you've said it sounds very unlikely he'd want to see her again. She's shown her true colours as a complete nutter (phantom pregnancy and harassing texts) and I'm so sure he's learnt his lesson. If he hasn't, he knows now what he risks losing so try to reassure yourself that he'll be missing you more than anything else

Not sure about the drinking tbh - I haven't been out since September so I'm going to be a super lightweight!

Cashncarry · 29/03/2007 16:22

Have a great time!

Ifonlyhewould · 29/03/2007 16:24

Mmmm. I suspected as much. But its totally understandable. And its allowed. I think you should follow your heart just like you have throughout all this. If you can go to London and enjoy yourself, not giving a thought to or worrying about DH then go. But if you have any doubts at all and its going to end up causing you a lot of heartache and insecurity, if its going to cause you to jump on DH with a 1001 questions as to where he has been and what he's been up, maybe undoing some of the work you have put in so far then maybe have a rethink.
Sorry to be a spoil sport, please forgive me, just trying to spare you some potential pain

lilybubble · 29/03/2007 17:14

ooh glad you've decided to go, it sounds great!!! absolutely perfect thing to do. hope you have a fab time!!!

jenwa · 29/03/2007 18:07

Def go! Drive down and spend what you would have on the train fare on yourself!!! You deserve a big treat and a girly night out!!!!

I went out fri and had fab time, not been out in town for a while and it was good fun. I think it does us all good every now and then. I know your cirmcunstances are different and the long drive there and back will be tiring but you have sunday to recover and DH can look after children whilst you get some well deserved rest!!!!!

Paddlechick666 · 29/03/2007 18:59

hi MLS

sorry haven't been around much this week. the course is hard going!

haven't even had a chance to catch up with the thread other than your plan to have a night out in London.

glad to hear you're going to do it. shows a massive amount of strength and belief in yourself and even more demonstrates that you can move on from this.

things this end are going okay. will email more details over weekend but suffice to say dh is doing a really good job and i am impressed.

we're talking heaps as well.

our wedding anniversary today so once he's put dd to bed we're having a thai take-away and some bubbles - he got offered a new job yesterday too.

oh and one of the best things he's said this week is how he appreciates how much i do on my own now that he's had 2 days of looking after dd solo!

hope you have a great night out and the drive isn't too bad.

LilyLoo · 29/03/2007 20:23

Does she look familiar to anyone ?
minger

LilyLoo · 29/03/2007 20:27

Just on a lighthearted note thought i might share a glimpse with you all on my other halfs other woman .
Can't believe i used to drink that cnc, mls think i would be on the floor now if i tried that. Much more sophisticated drinks for me now!

Cashncarry · 29/03/2007 21:35

Oh yes, am also tres sophisticated - will be bacardi breezers for me all the way

your minger - can't decide between ROFL and genuine horror that that's a real person...

all I can say is, "don't fancy yours much Lilyloo"

melminx · 30/03/2007 07:47

shouldnt have looked at the photo before breakfast!

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