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How to tell new guy I have herpes?...

122 replies

LonelyandLost89 · 13/05/2017 11:27

I am 27 soon to be 28 and I was diagnosed with herpes around 4 years ago when I was with my children's father and he was extremely supportive (I don't believe he passed it on to me, but believe the virus could have been in my system for years beforehand). I have an outbreak a couple times a year and I avoid having sex during this time. I split with my children's father about 2 years ago and I have been intimate with guys since but nothing serious.

I have now met this guy who I have been seeing for just over a month and we have decided that we want to be together. We have had unprotected sex quite a few times (we both have high sex drives) and because I had not had an outbreak since last year I 'forgot' that I had the virus until my most recent outbreak which I believe was triggered by the friction during sex. I have not seen him whilst I've had the OB.

I feel so selfish as it didn't cross my mind due to not having outbreaks very often, and having my most recent OB has made me realise that I will have to tell him. I am scared he is going to be so angry and run a mile because we have had unprotected sex. I really don't know how to tell him...any advice would be appreciated x

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Roundandroundwegoagain · 13/05/2017 12:23

Lie*

Expecting2017 · 13/05/2017 12:26

Glad that's working for you round and th at you are so thorough. Do you often get your pcr blood test done? As if the person or yourself isn't having an outbreak then the only way to screen is a pcr blood test. It won't show up on a STI usual check.

Expecting2017 · 13/05/2017 12:28

And op do let your partner know that too. A usual std test doesn't determine whether he has caught it unless he gets symptoms which some people never do or don't show up for sometimes years

bumpertobumper · 13/05/2017 12:29

You are getting an unfairly hard time in here op. This unjustified stigma and misinformation is the main problem with herpes. It is nothing more than coldsores down below. Yet there is no stigma attached to having them on the face, just a bit of 'oh dear " because it doesn't look nice.

An ongoing throwback to sex being bad and dirty, we should be over that in this day and age.

Would you not snog someone, or should every one be warned before kissing that you have had a coldsore in the past?
Same thing...

TheHodgeoftheHedge · 13/05/2017 12:30

You just need to be honest and blunt.
But if I was your partner, I would tell you what an arsehole I thought you were for not having told me and then never have anything to do with you again. I'm not trying to kick you while you're down, I'm just trying to be blunt about what you might have to expect.

Roundandroundwegoagain · 13/05/2017 12:34

Expecting, yes I'm very glad too and because of it I don't have herpes. I don't want it. You seem to have a good working knowledge of it and are quite flippant in your attitude towards its spread which I'm uncomfortable with.

Being lambasted for not wanting an STI and thinking knowingly putting someone else at risk is truly odd.

Roundandroundwegoagain · 13/05/2017 12:37

Posted too soon: Being lambasted for not wanting an STI and thinking knowingly putting someone else at risk is totally unacceptable is truly odd.

Expecting2017 · 13/05/2017 12:45

Yes I have a good knowledge of it but not because I have it. I have a very good knowledge of all STIs. I don't think it's flippant it's just factual. I think you're being silly, no one wants and STI round GrinConfused

Roundandroundwegoagain · 13/05/2017 12:52

No as I'm sure the guy OP slept with doesn't. Not being silly at all, just a bit despondent with the lack of respect some people have for others and the blasé attitude towards transmitting STIs, oh it's so common it's nothing but a genital cold sore etc, but I don't want to hijack this thread as OP wanted advice on how to tell this bloke she slept with and your opinion of whether I'm being silly or not isn't helpful to her.

StatelessPrincess · 13/05/2017 12:54

It is nothing more than coldsores down below

Who the fuck wants cold sores down below? or anywhere, if it can be avoided?

Iloveanimals · 13/05/2017 12:59

Bumpertobumper your response shocks me

MrsPringles · 13/05/2017 12:59

Whilst unprotected sex is not ideal because of the situation (you really ought to tell him)

I have it (a delightful gift from an ex boyfriend) and was told by the clinic that it's only contagious when there are blisters?

chickenwire17 · 13/05/2017 13:06

I have herpes; I haven't had an outbreak for about ten years. I have done a lot of research into it and I have come to the conclusion that it is very unlikely that I can pass it on to someone else at the moment (and I have been in a LTR in the last ten years, with unprotected sex, and my DP never caught it).
I don't tell any new partners as the chances are minimal of transmission. However, the OP has a couple of OBs a year, so, yes, she was remiss not to disclose this. But what's done is done now.

Tweezerz · 13/05/2017 13:07

You know you've been reckless and unkind to him but I imagine living with the knowledge that you have herpes is very difficult. You really should be more careful about unprotected sex with people who haven't been tested... I'm not being judgmental (as believe you me I have learned the hard way myself and been burned) but the subtext of all this is- "if you play Russian roulette with your sexual health like you are doing right now, with yours and his, no wonder you have an STD." Sorry, it's true.

Also, you're worrying about what you could have given him, what if he has HIV and has "forgotten" to tell you? Or chlamydia? You are being so reckless and careless with yours and his health, it's not on.

In your situation I would go and get tested for everything now so you know exactly what you're dealing with and if he's given you anything else. I would then come clean. It's not going to be easy but what else can you do. Maybe he won't mind and everything will be ok but now is the time to start acting like a responsible adult.

I was in love with a man when I was 26 and he kept making excuses for us not to sleep together. Eventually he told me he had herpes, before anything sexual happened. He let me make the decision. I'll always respect him for that.

LonelyandLost89 · 13/05/2017 13:07

Please, all I'm asking for is advice on how to tell my partner - which is what some people have given so thank you.
It is bad enough getting the reminder that I have the virus (by having the OB) and even worse realising that I will have to tell him, which I plan on doing tonight.
I understand the anger from some of you but slating me is not helping. So please, I ask if you can not give me any helpful advice to avoid commenting on this thread.

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TheHodgeoftheHedge · 13/05/2017 13:14

With all due respect OP, what advice is there to give you? Sit him down and tell him everything. Not really sure that else there is to suggest or help with.

GoldenOrb · 13/05/2017 13:18

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Supermagicsmile · 13/05/2017 13:23

Can you tell him that you've only just found out yourself? As far as he knows, this could be your first outbreak and he gave it to you! Wink

category12 · 13/05/2017 13:27

I just think it's pretty shocking to go unprotected so early in a relationship. Which STI it is involved in this case doesn't really matter, I'm just surprised that people generally have so little thought for their sexual health. The way I look at fluid-bonding sex is as a serious step that I don't do lightly.

WhereDoAllTheWildThingsGo · 13/05/2017 13:27

I agree you just have to bite the bullet and tell him in a very matter of face way. Apologise for having put him at risk and steel yourself for him to break-up with you.
This would be a deal breaker in my book.

WaitingYetAgain · 13/05/2017 13:35

Herpes is quite hard to avoid, I think. It is very common and hard to prevent transmission. See below:

'How common is herpes simplex?

Very common. By age 25, about six out of ten people in the UK carry type 1 and about one in ten carries type 2, more in the sexually active population. If this surprises you, it is because most people who have it don’t know that they do, because they have no symptoms or because they get it so mildly, they do not notice.'

herpes.org.uk/frequently-asked-questions/

If you have ever had cold sores in the past and orally go down on your partner's genitals, you are exposing them to herpes (HSV1). You don't need to have an active cold sore either for it to be 'shedding'.

Also those people who have sex with a partner based upon them having a recent clear STI check do not have protection against contracting herpes because the test does not reveal it unless active sores are present and tested. You'd need to get a blood test to rule it out. This is not offered as part of the standard STI tests, as far as I am aware.

Mrs Pringles - According to what I have read, it is most contagious when active (blisters/sores) but is still transmittable during periods when it is shedding, which is invisible to the naked eye. Some people contract it and never have any symptoms!

goaskalice.columbia.edu/answered-questions/shedding-light-viral-shedding

Of course, if a person knows they have it then they should be open with a partner about it, but I don't think it is easy to avoid/prevent transmission even if the partner is told about it. Some people use herpes dating services to meet other people who already have it (especially people with HSV2).

OP - Perhaps you could do it like this... When he says how are you or how have you been or something like that, tell him that you haven't been too good and say, in fact, it is something I need to talk to you about. I contracted herpes (years ago?) and have not had an active outbreak since I met you. To be honest, I had forgotten about it. I recently had an outbreak and I realised when this occurred that I have been extremely remiss in not having informed you before we slept together. I am very sorry.

Perhaps print some info off the herpes site about it. They have advice on how to deal with partners and it. You can make him aware of how common it is and transmissibility etc. If he knows nothing about it, I would prepare for him to react badly as many people are unaware of how prevalent it is and how likely they are to have been exposed to it previously with knowing it. I have to admit, I'd be very upset if this happened to me (as the person not told), but I do understand how it's happened. I think when it's inactive you tend to think of it as being gone, when it's not really.

He also made the decision to have unprotected sex with you so he should accept that it's not without risk, regardless of prior testing.

oldjacksscrote · 13/05/2017 13:37

If I were you I'd be ready with all the facts before you tell him, he'll probably have lots of questions.
I contracted hpv a few years ago and was surprised how understanding people can be, especially when they know the facts and are mature enough to look past the whole STI stigma. Good luck Flowers

WhatALoadOfOldBollocks · 13/05/2017 13:42

Lonely, bear in mind that you both had unprotected sex before discussing sexual health screening so although you cocked up, he didn't take his health seriously by using procautions either. Anyway, obviously you have to tell him, and you could approach it in 1 of 3 ways...

  1. You are 100% honest and tell him what you've told us. I imagine that could result in him dumping you...unless of course he also has herpes (or another STI) and forgot to tell you!
  2. You tell him that you've had it for longer than you have and that you forgot to mention is to him because you'd not had an outbreak for many years.
  3. You tell him you've only just contracted it.

Which one you choose depends on your ethics and your views on honesty.

badgersnotincluded · 13/05/2017 13:43

OP, there is a lot of ignorance on this thread. Yes, you should have told him. We all know that. Many of the horrified posters here probably have herpes too, they just don't have episodes so they are blissfully unaware.

Tell him but get all your facts straight first. He will probably have questions and you need to be able to answer them. Go to some health websites with Q&As, there will probably be advice on how to tackle this exact problem.

Do you take acyclovir or similar? I wouldn't do the dramatic 'Sit down, I have something to tell you,' I would mention it as soon as he asks how you are. Say you're not feeling great, and tell him you have a condition that flares up occasionally. Tell him what it is and tell him that you manage it with medication when you need to.

I've had to tell four partners and three of them actually weren't bothered at all, which shocked me! The one that reacted the most upset soon calmed down when I explained the condition and how it was managed, and how after 17 years it really wasn't a big issue with me. We're now married.

You didn't ask to be one of the super-unlucky who gets infected and also has episodes. It's nothing to be ashamed of and you're not dirty. Good luck.

MrsPringles · 13/05/2017 13:45

Thanks for the link waiting - I've only ever had it once a couple of years ago and touch wood nothing since then.
It was bloody awful, I don't fancy that again anytime soon