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What Men Want (A bit about...)

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SuffolkGent01 · 11/04/2017 10:07

There are some women out there who genuinely wish they could be better wives or girlfriends, and I am writing this for those women who appreciate a bit of honesty about what men want - and yes, most of this does relate to sex. For those women who are open to hearing that, then I hope you find this helpful. For those ardent feminists, or man-hating Mumsnet guardians, who think this is a major human rights violation of some kind, then... sorry. (More on that below.).

Inevitably what I write will be generalisation, but as a guy in his 40s on his third marriage, having been around a bit, with a lot of male friends and colleagues also, and some experience counselling, I know this all applies to perhaps 90-95% of men. And If I say things about women, again it's a generalisation, so take it for what it is.

  1. Sex. Yes, married men would want sex much more regularly on the whole than they get (really, in my view, twice a week is pretty much the acceptable minimum for a couple under 60). But what truly depresses most married men, far more than the lack of regularity of sex, is actually that their wives simply show no interest in sex itself.

Any husband would take a woman who was sensual and enthusiastic and made a positive effort once every two weeks, then a woman who reluctantly rolls over to have missionary duty-sex once or twice a week. There is nothing more depressing, transparent, un-erotic and life-sapping than a woman doing duty-sex, and yet that is what almost all married men have to live with. What makes it worse, of course, is that this is not who most men dated or married to begin with, when so many women put on the show of being energetic sex bunnies.

But a woman who makes an effort, who does something unexpected, is a gem. So, ask yourself when you last actually thought about doing something new or different in the bedroom, when you last buy a sexy outfit or a toy, when did you last instigate a sexual act outside the bedroom (or, shock horror, the house)? If you ask yourself these questions regularly enough, you'll be well on the way to a happy husband.

  1. Lingerie. Men love women in nice lingerie, but for most married women it is purely functional and they have no interest in even wearing matching lingerie, let alone anything sexy, even at weekends or during a time spent together. This is an easy win.
  1. Presentation. This key principle is that men simply do not want to hear about women's health issues, or anything that a lady should not be talking about. There are millions of women in this country, but very very few ladies who understand the restraint that involves. This is really a function of good manners and etiquette as much as anything. So, men don't want to hear about anything to do with your private parts, body hair, etc. They don't want to see you adopting any un-lady like habits during marriage; breaking wind, burping, etc. just say to the world you have given up and frankly don't give a damn any more about being either lady like or attractive to your husband. Same goes for doing any body maintenance in front of your husband. All those things should be done, if they have to, in private, away from your husband's eyes and ears (not even leaving a razor out in the bathroom). If you want a happy man, you should focus on presenting yourself as something he desires. Body hair - anywhere other than the top of your head, eyebrows and (these days) a very moderate amount below the bikini line, is totally unacceptable. Men don't want to touch it, see it or hear about it. There are plenty of solutions, including having laser treatment (I don't know why this isn't something every woman does). A hairy arm, top lip, leg, side burn, or whatever else is a truly awful thing.

It is partly for this reason that some English men do like East Asian women, because they are generally more effeminate and also are naturally hairless in most areas. Anyway, I digress.

  1. Chat. Partly covered in 3 above, but one specific other area that men find a turn-off is when women speak in juvenile terms about body parts, particularly referring in giggling tones to someone's "willy" or "bum", for example, is an immediate signal and turn-off. So too is women speaking in clinical terms, like "penis" or "vagina". For men, private parts are, believe it or not, primarily sexual, and adult women who want to engage with their husbands should engage in more "adult" usage if they want to connect. It goes back to point 1, about men wishing their wives shared a more sensual / sexual mindset. This can help.
  1. Porn. I really could not believe my ears when I heard a couple of my friends say that their wives did not approve of them watching porn. And, then I have read threads on here of wives coming to the "community" to panic about what to do about their husband (sorry, "DH".... that's another posting altogether, god help us) watching a bit of kinky porn now and again and whether it's "acceptable" or not. Firstly, to state the blindingly obvious, it's not a question of whether a wife should allow, approve or tolerate her husband watching porn, or watching sport, or watching UFC or watching whatever on earth he wants to watch, if it's legal. He's an adult, a separate person, and that's the end of it. But much more relevant to this post about making your guy happy, it again links back to 1, and tells your husband you have no idea about his needs or wants and frankly no care, and that you are prudish, which is the opposite of what he wishes you were. Sorry, but that's the truth.

I appreciate porn is not many women's cup of tea. Of course, a woman who DOES like porn, either alone or together with her husband, is a great find. But even if you don't, if your focus is on him being happy, then just embrace it as much as you can. Remember, your husband gets no immediate pleasure from you using a sex toy, but can you imagine if he objected to you doing it? That would, of course, be ridiculous and out of order. Much better for him to participate, if his goal is to make you happy, and the reverse is the same. So, next time you think of ticking off your husband - who, by the way DOES watch porn REGULARLY, whatever he says - why not do something spontaneous, sexual and ground-breaking, whatever that may be (be creative with it).

Again, to those women who are interested in what men want, this is a little set of tips to help you on your way to making your man happier. It may not all be immediately achievable, but that's okay, it's primarily an explanation, nothing more, so you can better relate and adjust if you want to.

And, again, for those women who see this as the ultimate display of sexism blah blah, and are reaching for the pitch-forks or furiously typing a response about why men don't understand they are too tired for X, too busy for Y, and would do these things if only their husbands did A, B and C, and unrealistic expectations of women, etc. etc., then you really missed the point.

Bye Bye!
Peter

OP posts:
LookAtTheFlowersKerry · 11/04/2017 10:58

My dh has seen me shit while giving birth.

It hasn't put him off so far.

Maybe he's doing masculinity wrong?

DJBaggySmalls · 11/04/2017 10:58

YetAnotherSpartacus Sadly not

YogaAndRum · 11/04/2017 10:58

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ExplodingCarrots · 11/04/2017 10:59

Well your third wife is a lucky lady ....not!

Thanx for the laugh though.

CuppaTeaAndAJammieDodger · 11/04/2017 11:00

Oh my fucking god - I am crying with laughter here. Peter, you are hysterical.

Kikikaakaa · 11/04/2017 11:00

I just re-read. So if you can't say willy or penis, what are women supposed to call them? Hahaha

aforandromeda · 11/04/2017 11:01

Mildly entertaining.

Magicpaintbrush · 11/04/2017 11:01

Wow. I am (almost) speechless. I really hope your thread is a wind up OP (aka Captain Caveman) otherwise it is the most contemptible load of offensive willy-waving crap that I think I've ever read.

Why you felt the need to come on here and spout your perceived 'man wisdom' at a load of total strangers is beyond me. We didn't ask for your advice, nor did we want it.

Please crawl back into your time machine and travel back to the 1950's where you clearly belong. You are laughable. And next time before you start to type, here's a piece of advice from me: know your audience.

PoorYorick · 11/04/2017 11:02

We know what men want. We never fucking stop hearing about it.

PencilsInSpace · 11/04/2017 11:02

Giant prick.

Kittencatkins123 · 11/04/2017 11:03

THE ABSOLUTE LOLS!!!!!
This has made my day 👍

shovetheholly · 11/04/2017 11:03

"as a guy in his 40s on his third marriage, having been around a bit, with a lot of male friends and colleagues also, and some experience counselling,"

I think it's you who might need some advice, on how to make a marriage work.

You sound totally miserable trapped in the 1950s. We could send a time machine to rescue you, but to be frankly you don't really sound worth the energy involved.

pnutter · 11/04/2017 11:04

Mr Stringfellow ?

IHeartDodo · 11/04/2017 11:04

MephistophelesApprentice well said!

PencilsInSpace · 11/04/2017 11:04

Sorry that was of course a reply to Kikikaakaa. I was not personally attacking the OP by calling him a Giant Prick.

Giant Prick.

(sorry I can't stop saying it now)

EgotisticalWoolyWanker · 11/04/2017 11:05

Can we keep him? Pretty please.

Best laugh I have had in weeks Grin

pnutter · 11/04/2017 11:06

To be fair Peter , could you men stop leaving skid marks in your pants. Thanks.

wendywoopywoo222 · 11/04/2017 11:08

Fabulous,

Needed a cheery laugh on this dull morning at work.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 11/04/2017 11:09

OH NO - EARWORM

LadyOfTheCanyon · 11/04/2017 11:10

Oh, that was tremendous.

Kittencatkins123 · 11/04/2017 11:12

pnutter 'Women should pick up the skiddy pants without a word and add them to their daily washing pile. They should enjoy washing the skiddy pants which are an expression of his innate masculinity and as such should be respected and enjoyed.'

Goldfishjane · 11/04/2017 11:13

The world provides daily reminders of why it's great to be single.
They're not normally as verbose as this one.

I skipped most of it but I do think I might know you from another chat board - one that's now defunct?

IAmAmy · 11/04/2017 11:13

I almost feel sorry for the person who wrote all that, as what they outlined in their last paragraph was what they were desperately hoping for but have woefully failed to provoke.

BeautyQueenFromMars · 11/04/2017 11:14

Sorry, couldn't get past the first paragraph before I had to change my pants, due to me wetting them laughing. You should go on the stage.

Goldfishjane · 11/04/2017 11:15

Ps if anyone wants the TL DR version it's

STFU
Bend over in your fancy lingerie
And do as you're told.

See? More matter with less art Grin