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What Men Want (A bit about...)

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SuffolkGent01 · 11/04/2017 10:07

There are some women out there who genuinely wish they could be better wives or girlfriends, and I am writing this for those women who appreciate a bit of honesty about what men want - and yes, most of this does relate to sex. For those women who are open to hearing that, then I hope you find this helpful. For those ardent feminists, or man-hating Mumsnet guardians, who think this is a major human rights violation of some kind, then... sorry. (More on that below.).

Inevitably what I write will be generalisation, but as a guy in his 40s on his third marriage, having been around a bit, with a lot of male friends and colleagues also, and some experience counselling, I know this all applies to perhaps 90-95% of men. And If I say things about women, again it's a generalisation, so take it for what it is.

  1. Sex. Yes, married men would want sex much more regularly on the whole than they get (really, in my view, twice a week is pretty much the acceptable minimum for a couple under 60). But what truly depresses most married men, far more than the lack of regularity of sex, is actually that their wives simply show no interest in sex itself.

Any husband would take a woman who was sensual and enthusiastic and made a positive effort once every two weeks, then a woman who reluctantly rolls over to have missionary duty-sex once or twice a week. There is nothing more depressing, transparent, un-erotic and life-sapping than a woman doing duty-sex, and yet that is what almost all married men have to live with. What makes it worse, of course, is that this is not who most men dated or married to begin with, when so many women put on the show of being energetic sex bunnies.

But a woman who makes an effort, who does something unexpected, is a gem. So, ask yourself when you last actually thought about doing something new or different in the bedroom, when you last buy a sexy outfit or a toy, when did you last instigate a sexual act outside the bedroom (or, shock horror, the house)? If you ask yourself these questions regularly enough, you'll be well on the way to a happy husband.

  1. Lingerie. Men love women in nice lingerie, but for most married women it is purely functional and they have no interest in even wearing matching lingerie, let alone anything sexy, even at weekends or during a time spent together. This is an easy win.
  1. Presentation. This key principle is that men simply do not want to hear about women's health issues, or anything that a lady should not be talking about. There are millions of women in this country, but very very few ladies who understand the restraint that involves. This is really a function of good manners and etiquette as much as anything. So, men don't want to hear about anything to do with your private parts, body hair, etc. They don't want to see you adopting any un-lady like habits during marriage; breaking wind, burping, etc. just say to the world you have given up and frankly don't give a damn any more about being either lady like or attractive to your husband. Same goes for doing any body maintenance in front of your husband. All those things should be done, if they have to, in private, away from your husband's eyes and ears (not even leaving a razor out in the bathroom). If you want a happy man, you should focus on presenting yourself as something he desires. Body hair - anywhere other than the top of your head, eyebrows and (these days) a very moderate amount below the bikini line, is totally unacceptable. Men don't want to touch it, see it or hear about it. There are plenty of solutions, including having laser treatment (I don't know why this isn't something every woman does). A hairy arm, top lip, leg, side burn, or whatever else is a truly awful thing.

It is partly for this reason that some English men do like East Asian women, because they are generally more effeminate and also are naturally hairless in most areas. Anyway, I digress.

  1. Chat. Partly covered in 3 above, but one specific other area that men find a turn-off is when women speak in juvenile terms about body parts, particularly referring in giggling tones to someone's "willy" or "bum", for example, is an immediate signal and turn-off. So too is women speaking in clinical terms, like "penis" or "vagina". For men, private parts are, believe it or not, primarily sexual, and adult women who want to engage with their husbands should engage in more "adult" usage if they want to connect. It goes back to point 1, about men wishing their wives shared a more sensual / sexual mindset. This can help.
  1. Porn. I really could not believe my ears when I heard a couple of my friends say that their wives did not approve of them watching porn. And, then I have read threads on here of wives coming to the "community" to panic about what to do about their husband (sorry, "DH".... that's another posting altogether, god help us) watching a bit of kinky porn now and again and whether it's "acceptable" or not. Firstly, to state the blindingly obvious, it's not a question of whether a wife should allow, approve or tolerate her husband watching porn, or watching sport, or watching UFC or watching whatever on earth he wants to watch, if it's legal. He's an adult, a separate person, and that's the end of it. But much more relevant to this post about making your guy happy, it again links back to 1, and tells your husband you have no idea about his needs or wants and frankly no care, and that you are prudish, which is the opposite of what he wishes you were. Sorry, but that's the truth.

I appreciate porn is not many women's cup of tea. Of course, a woman who DOES like porn, either alone or together with her husband, is a great find. But even if you don't, if your focus is on him being happy, then just embrace it as much as you can. Remember, your husband gets no immediate pleasure from you using a sex toy, but can you imagine if he objected to you doing it? That would, of course, be ridiculous and out of order. Much better for him to participate, if his goal is to make you happy, and the reverse is the same. So, next time you think of ticking off your husband - who, by the way DOES watch porn REGULARLY, whatever he says - why not do something spontaneous, sexual and ground-breaking, whatever that may be (be creative with it).

Again, to those women who are interested in what men want, this is a little set of tips to help you on your way to making your man happier. It may not all be immediately achievable, but that's okay, it's primarily an explanation, nothing more, so you can better relate and adjust if you want to.

And, again, for those women who see this as the ultimate display of sexism blah blah, and are reaching for the pitch-forks or furiously typing a response about why men don't understand they are too tired for X, too busy for Y, and would do these things if only their husbands did A, B and C, and unrealistic expectations of women, etc. etc., then you really missed the point.

Bye Bye!
Peter

OP posts:
elQuintoConyo · 12/04/2017 21:16

If you have a chocolate penis that shoots out money, then I'll be your 3rd wife Grin

Shedmicehugh · 12/04/2017 22:17

I'd need a calculator to go with the chocolate penis and shooting money, you'd be the 4th?!

InfiniteCurve · 12/04/2017 22:40

Oh,I know what this is - the OP is trying to demonstrate how to repel women - good job!
Personally I couldn't care less if H knows about those icky female body issues,he really doesn't seem bothered,and DS is also well aware that women have hair - he isn't stupid Grin

RunRabbitRunRabbit · 12/04/2017 23:24

Women like sex. Lots of sex. If it is good sex. Clearly you are bad at the sex.

Whatthefoxgoingon · 12/04/2017 23:41

I have nothing new to add. I just want to join you all in mocking Peter.

imablackstarnotapopstar · 13/04/2017 00:16

Hiding my razor so my delicate DH isn't upset by evidence of my body hair???
No burping or farting or any other "unladylike" bodily function in case my man is unhappy?

Jesus wept Peter. What a total knob you are?

I'm glad to report that most men couldn't care less about razors, burps, farts, willies, fannies, or any of the other complete bollocks you have come out with!

AprilSkies44 · 13/04/2017 02:07

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justinhawkinsnavalfluff · 13/04/2017 02:16

Sat in bed with my DH just burped and only shaved my legs twice this week.....and yet we've been together happily 20 years...OP you are a mysoginistic dinasour!

civilfawlty · 13/04/2017 02:18

Why has this thread not been deleted. Come on MN

AprilSkies44 · 13/04/2017 02:20

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FreeNiki · 13/04/2017 02:32

Or just stay single.

What Men Want (A bit about...)
forwardgoing · 13/04/2017 09:26

Lucky escape for the princess, who became a ruler in her own right. Ner.

TheBogQueen · 13/04/2017 09:49

Deleting a thread doesn't delete these misogynistic attitudes.

And it's led to some v funny comments and good discussion.

Bottlesoflove · 13/04/2017 11:14

Would you like some advice on how to please women? I guess not so why should we care how to make you pleased.

I imagine a couple of hundred years ago you could find similar advice directed to slaves on how to keep their masters happy. If black people objected to that would you not feel they were justified in pitchfork waving?

It provokes an angry response, because you are talking a pike of sexist steaming shite. Women are not on this planet to please men, neither are men on this planet to please women. They are human beings in their own right, not playthings to be objectified.

I think YOU are the one who's massively missing the point. Good luck wife no 4. I suggest you buy a rubber doll that makes enthusiastic noises.

SassynSane · 13/04/2017 11:41

He's def crawled back out from under his stone....take a look at the new thread Grin

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/2902069-What-women-want-nod-to-Peter

FlyingElbows · 13/04/2017 12:22

Peter, are you the same Peter (I'm sure it was Peter but I might be wrong) from Ukpunting who wrote the helpful mansolaining instructions for us about why you need to use prostitutes? I'm asking because you mentioned "15 minutes" on that thread and I wondered then if your 15 minutes might be where you're going wrong when it comes to the sex? Effort being a two way street and all that. Anyway, if nothing else we now know that tge way to stay safe from men like you is to surround ourselves with a protective ring of hair removal devices. I'm off to invent that and make my fortune!

peaceout · 13/04/2017 13:43

I salute you Peter, you've been a catalyst for some interesting and useful discussions 😆

HelenaDove · 13/04/2017 14:18

Peter my husband is 67 and he thinks you are pathetic. FYI im 43 and you are one of the reasons i prefer older men.

Toodle

FreeNiki · 13/04/2017 14:54

Men are actually pretty filthy to live with anyway. Why would we want to please them.

Look at this site as an example of so mant women saying their dh does nothing. One guy I dated was a professional. one day i went there he had shit stains all over the toilet, sheets not changed for what looked like weeks, bedroom a pigsty, never anything in the fridge, not even milk. i walked back out that day.

keep you happy? who wants to live with such swines.

BoneyBackJefferson · 13/04/2017 15:46

FreeNiki

who wants to live with such swines.

Presumably the women who live in the same way.

FreeNiki · 13/04/2017 17:33

Presumably the women who live in the same way.

True. Given that the guy I spoke of was 35 and never had a relationship longer than 6 months, he hadnt found that woman yet.

user1487175389 · 13/04/2017 17:38

We don't care, OP. We don't care what YOU want. Why on earth would you think that we do?

Just as you are preoccupied with your own wants and needs, we're happily absorbed in ours, thanks very much. The earth does not spin around a giant phallus.

Sunferra · 13/04/2017 18:07

Dear Sir, I am a middle aged woman with low IQ. I need directions on every facet of my life, particularly in the area of appealing attire. I have no self esteem and a tendency to masochism. What is this 'Porn'' of which you speak? Is it short for popcorn? I'm grateful for any tips to attract any men to be honest although I would be particularly thrilled to meet you. I'm off to shave my entire body while I wait for your reply regarding our first date. Much love, Abby Normal X.

SpringDad · 13/04/2017 19:39

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rumblingDMexploitingbstds · 13/04/2017 19:42

Never mind Spring Dad, we had him spotted as a different kind of rabbit. Grin

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