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Original poster

social services took my beautiful children

473 replies

user1491683745 · 08/04/2017 21:41

it really is not fair to do it to someone who absolutely loves and adores them they really need me and are probably so unhappy i am so done with life and really really want them with me

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DixieNormas · 08/04/2017 23:31

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PickAChew · 08/04/2017 23:31

Papergirl, Advanced search of the exact username only brings up this thread Hmm I've reported your trollhunting post.

Floggingmolly · 08/04/2017 23:31

But you said the police took the children? Were did they take them from, if not your home?

corythatwas · 08/04/2017 23:32

OP, did they not give any clue as to whether the allegations concern yourself or your partner?

gandalf456 · 08/04/2017 23:32

I'm not talking about me. I've already expressed my sympathies. It's all in can do. It's all any us can. As for real life, she needs someone to sit with her tonight as she's unlikely to get much sleep .

WorraLiberty · 08/04/2017 23:32

Really Papergirl? All the search throws up for me, is this thread?

TrollTheRespawnJeremy · 08/04/2017 23:33

Sorry you're getting a hard time by folk who don't appear to have noticed how MN works OP.

I think people are just trying to get a better idea of what's going on so that they can advise you - but unfortunately it's all a bit chaotic and I don't think you know anything that can give people an idea on where you are in the process!!

Did they say they'd be in touch or you should call?

DeanaPiana · 08/04/2017 23:35

OP, it is clear you aren't willing to answer any questions so other Mumsnetters can help you any further. For whatever reason that is, I'll let you decide. Do I think you're being unreasonable? Of course not. You choose what you want to disclose.

But, it's clear Mumsnet isn't going to be much more help to you. I suggest talking to someone you know in person. Anyone that'll listen and you feel you can trust. If not, please call an agency such as The Samaritians. They'll listen and won't judge.

This must be a really excruciating time, regardless of why your children have been taken.

Take it easy. Get legal help. Get advice and support that isn't hearsay but clear and true from advice agencies etc, not chat rooms.

I wish you well and I hope what's best for those children will happen Flowers

1nsanityscatching · 08/04/2017 23:38

OP contacting Family Rights Group will get you the help and support you need just now.

gandalf456 · 08/04/2017 23:38

I agree. This speculation is so unhelpful. I'm sure op has tied herself in knots as it is. She will find out in due course

Megatherium · 08/04/2017 23:38

There doesn't have to have been a court order, but if there hasn't there must have been serious concerns that the children are in danger. According to Wikipedia:

"In the UK, police are considered to be on the "front line" when dealing with social problems such as domestic violence. Section 46 of the Children Act 1989 gives them the power to remove children or prevent them from being exposed to dangerous environments. The police are required to make a professional judgement to decide if a child is at risk of "significant harm" if they do not use their powers of protection.Social workers do not have similar powers to protect children without obtaining a court order first.

As a professional worker, a social worker can request that a police constable exercise their power in situations where a child is at immediate risk of harm or abuse; a social worker will then often follow the procedure for an emergency protection order via the judicial system."

TheBookIsOnTheTable · 08/04/2017 23:38

The fact that you have so little information is what's confusing people, and also is what means we can't really offer much advice.

If Social Services came to my house out of the blue and tried to take my children away, I would first demand to know the reason. If they refused to tell me, I would call the police, since there is something very sinister about an agency that I've had no prior dealings with coming to my house out of the blue to take my children away.

If I were you, at this point, I would call the police and/or the contact number that social services MUST surely have left with you. One of the two will be able to give you more information about what is going on.

Voice0fReason · 08/04/2017 23:39

They must have had serious concerns to remove the children in this manner. I would guess your son ha made a very serious allegation.

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user1491683745 · 08/04/2017 23:43

fucking hell they didnt just come and snatch my children away without saying anything you have absolutely no idea how it happened and i have already tried to explain and to the social worker who said you always get a warning well thats absolute bollox isnt it

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HeartsTrumpDiamonds · 08/04/2017 23:43

OP I can tell your mind and emotions are spinning and spinning almost out of control and I can imagine in a similar situation mine would be doing the same. If you can take some deep breaths and find some calm, and then attempt to answer a few of the questions here, there are a lot of people who will be able to help. Flowers

The (majority of the) questions are not meant to challenge or disbelieve you - they are to find out some more information so people can give you some proper advice.

BillyButtfuck · 08/04/2017 23:43

OP are you okay? Do you have RL support?

netflixandnappies · 08/04/2017 23:45

Firstly OP, whether your supermum, or struggling like some perfectly good people do - Having your kids taken is traumatic and I'm so sorry.Flowers

We don't know all the facts OP, only you do. For your kids to be taken away from you, due to calls to child line, there could be something going on that you don't know about. I say that with no judgement and in all humility. Sometimes SS believe it's right to take the kids like this as emergency measures. Yes, they get it wrong all the time. Sometimes parents need support, not their kids taken.

We don't know what type of mother you are, what type of person your partner is or what type of home life you have. Only you do.

So no matter what advice you get on here from people who don't know the facts (including me of course), the most important thing is for you to do is calm down, sit down and have a real think. Go into your sons room and have a look. Question family members, friends, and of course your partner. Then look into legal representation. Please email your local MP.

It's currently half term, but you also need to call school and hold a meeting - You never know what you may find out. You'd also be shocked how with some prodding all types comes out of the woodwork with teaching staff.

He has said something about home life - This is why they've come. Childline will ask questions about parents and the home. I feel so bad for you but can tell you fiercely love your kids.

What was your son like when they took him? Relieved? Confused? Did he contest?

TBH I see some troll hunting surfacing - I've got some issues going on that I desperately want to post about buy I'm so scared. It doesn't matter whether the post is real or not - It could be real and that's all that matters x

Fairybella · 08/04/2017 23:45

This is shitty... not read the full thread just op bits as some of the stuff people say is awful.

I think this can happen if they believe you child is at risk and you are not protecting them... this would be if you knew I guess! I guess the best you can do is seek legal advise and comply with everything that needs to be dealt with.

DeanaPiana · 08/04/2017 23:46

You're right OP, we have no idea how it happened - mostly because you aren't willing to answer and questions so people can assist you further.

Take care and seek proper legal and emotional support from at least a voice over the phone Flowers

gamerchick · 08/04/2017 23:48

Well what happened then? If you can say what happened people might be able to give you advice. They must have said something to you.

RJnomore1 · 08/04/2017 23:49

You are right op it's not true you always get a warning.

When did this happen?

passthewineplz · 08/04/2017 23:49

Did you have to sign any paperwork? Did social services leave any paperwork with you? Did they tell you what the next steps are?

You need to work with social services, they are there to help you and your family.

WorraLiberty · 08/04/2017 23:49

Yep you're right about that OP.

We have absolutely no idea how it happened because you won't tell us.

You won't even tell us when it happened.

So you're not going to gain anything positive from this thread.

Terfinator · 08/04/2017 23:49

Op, MN isn't the right place for you right now. Do you have someone you can go to in real life? Flowers

CalmItKermitt · 08/04/2017 23:50

I don't think taking it out on other posters will help.