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My best friend cut me out of her life because of something I said, and I'm finding it difficult

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user1488306410 · 28/02/2017 21:29

I've upset my best friend of 10 years, and now she wants nothing to do with me. I only saw her two weeks ago and we spent the day watching movies and planning a summer holiday together. But the next day I was browsing facebook when I saw she had written a very angry status: "how dare you talk badly of me just to make yourself look better, you don't know me, you are a fake friend". It was then I realized that it was me she was mad at since she had ignored a message I sent her earlier. I was confused at first but then I clicked on to what I'd done.

Turns out she found something I had written about her online a few months ago. It sounds stupid but I was into psychology and I was learning about personality types (known as mbti). I was trying to figure out the 'types' of myself, my friends and family etc...but I struggled to figure them out. So I went on a forum specially made for 'typing' people and wrote a list of mine and my friend's personality traits (not mentioning any names). Unfortunately, I did put a lot of lot of negative traits like stubborn, passive-aggressive, easily irritated etc. I really wasn't intending to be mean, just trying to paint a picture -- I said the similar things about myself too. So that is what she found and I'm devastated I've upset her because it's not how I truly see her. It was just an objective observation to try and understand her better.

I tried to apologise numerous times over the next week. I explained about the personality types and what I was trying to do. She replied and said she didn't understand why we were friends if I thought that badly of her. She concluded that I wasn't a bad person but I wasn't a good friend and she was too hurt to ever trust me again. She said she was happy alone. I was so upset with myself. I told her how much I appreciated her and even spent an evening making her a big apology card and sent it to her, but now she has completely stopped speaking to me.

I just can't believe I have lost a friend just because I was trying to figure her personality type on an anonymous website. I totally understand how hurt she must have felt reading it. I just wish she'd realize I think the world of her, despite anything bad I said. I know friends are supposed to have each others backs no matter what and I feel like I've failed. I see imperfections in everyone and that doesn't mean I think any less of them. I'm just over-analytical like that and I'd never be deliberately mean.

Anyway, the reason I'm writing this is because I'm feeling so down about it all right now and I'm just looking for some advice. Will she ever be able to forgive me when I can hardly forgive myself? :(

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IamFriedSpam · 01/03/2017 07:04

Like others have said this doesn't really add up. If you were just listing personality types on an anonymous website how on earth would she know it was you writing about her?

LouisevilleLlama · 01/03/2017 07:07

I'm not sure I don't see how I'd find it out as I wouldn't google friends usernames, but I think if I found it I'd be really upset and to be honest probably quite annoyed someone that's not trained has tried to and may continue to Psycho Analyse me, making me some kind of lab rat for their interest

whoneedswings · 01/03/2017 07:26

My really close friends and I openly acknowledge and talk about each other's flaws! We don't see it as nasty as we love each other, warts and all, and have been through so much together. I would maybe say she's not such a close friend if you can't have an honest discussion about personality strengths and weaknesses without her getting upset and understanding you meant no harm. No ones perfect! And knowing someone loves all of you I find a real confidence booster.

SandyDenny · 01/03/2017 10:09

If she was able to recognise herself from what you posted it must have been how she sees herself so probably accurate. But, no one wants to see their faults indentified by someone else sso clearly do they?

If I was her I'd probably not want to try and rescue the friendship either, tbh I think you overstepped the mark by posted in the first place.

Did you include as a postive quality that she must have fantastic googling skills, sometimes I google my own username if I've posted on a forum but forgotten to bookmark the page and I can't always find my own posts.

ChocolateFuzz · 01/03/2017 10:38

Surely you wouldn't have to include negative traits anyway, the myers brings test uses entirely neutral and positive traits, that's kind of the point.

www.google.co.uk/amp/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2014/7/15/5881947/myers-briggs-personality-test-meaningless?espv=1

Freddorika · 01/03/2017 10:41

I'd dump you too. Sorry. I'd be hurt and upset and question the friendship. She has agreed you are not a bad person. I think you leave it there.

user1488306410 · 01/03/2017 10:41

It's weird because she is still replying to me when I contact her, but is a very cold, almost robotic reply which I've never experienced from her before and it makes me anxious...Normally, she'd just cut me out completely and block my number...now its just "thank you and you" hours after

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Freddorika · 01/03/2017 10:43

She's trying to be grown up about it.

That's not weird.

Freddorika · 01/03/2017 10:44

You didn't have an honest discussion about her flaws though.

You typed a damning list of them into a sad internet website.

houseofpain · 01/03/2017 10:57

And it's not truly anonymous if someone can work out who you're writing about!

Freddorika · 01/03/2017 11:20

Normally, she'd just cut me out completely and block my number hold on, has she done this in the past then??

user1488306410 · 01/03/2017 11:29

Yeah she's cut me out before in the past without telling me why....sometimes its because of a fall out, other times its because of reasons I still don't understand. It's her way of dealing with things and that's why I tried to use mbti to understand her better. That's probably one of the more negative things I put about her. When I sent my apology I tried to explain this, that I've felt shut out in the past without knowing why but she didn't really say anything back...just a simple "okay"

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user1488306410 · 01/03/2017 11:33

I think the worst thing about this is she does know her "faults" very well and I've just shone light on them which makes me feel sick to the stomach...I just wish wish wish wish wish she'd realize that I love her friendship despite them...I told her that. She doesn't care or believe me. I have more faults than anyone (clearly) :(

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TheStoic · 01/03/2017 11:37

Can you answer how she knew you were talking about her?

What is the site?

Yoksha · 01/03/2017 11:38

OP, you need to step back now for your own mental well being. From reading your updates you seem to be trying to justify your behaviour vs your friends behaviour. Just give her space to process this. Leave the ball in her court.

My exBf of 27yrs. wouldn't let it lie. By her very nature she pushed & pushed thinking she's behaved in a caring manner. She never once questioned my silence/withdrawal from the friendship. That spoke volumes about her lack of awareness. Are you lacking in awareness of boundaries? To come back after reading that type of what seems to me a character assassination by trying to justify why in your case just leaves me cold.

Sorry op.

user1488306410 · 01/03/2017 11:44

I've already mentioned, she must have been looking for my username in google

Yoksha I know what you mean....the way you described your ex-bf didn't sound too much like me though. I have a deep understanding of what I did wrong. I explained to her how hurtful I was and how I regret it and I'm not the kind to be phone her up everyday blabbering on about my life like nothing happened. I just wish we could talk things through but I guess she doesn't want to

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TheStoic · 01/03/2017 12:06

I've already mentioned, she must have been looking for my username in google.

No, that doesn't answer why she assumed you were talking about her. Did you use her name? Do you only have one friend?

Yoksha · 01/03/2017 12:11

OP, I hope you find closure. In a way you sound a bit like me in that you're possibly too aware of your own shortcomings. The human psyche is very fragile at times. Just when you think you've got a handle on any given situation, it's like attending the mad-hatters tea party that you've just been invited to. They've all moved round.

Give yourself a break. I think nobody can beat you up more than you're beating yourself up. Just detach & leave her be. It seems you're possibly poking a hornets nest.

user1488306410 · 01/03/2017 12:25

I think it was just obvious I was talking about her because of the stuff I mentioned...I think I may have also mentioned her job (as she does creative work and i thought it would help), she's my closest friend, i have acquaintances

Yoksha, yeah picking a hornets nest is about right. I've been a very analytical person for as long as I remembered.. When I was a kid I used to believe in star signs and would figure out which of my friends were which star sign and put them into categories.....again, that was never meant to be rude or nasty, it was just to satisfy my brain...this was exactly the same deal except my friend caught me doing it :/

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zzzzz · 01/03/2017 12:43

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Monkeyface45 · 01/03/2017 12:55

Why would she randomly be searching your username on google?! There must have been something to Pre empt it for her... I don't just sit at hone and randomly google my friends usernames (not that I know them to do so anyway)

Sounds as if you're well rid though to be honest. She sounds awful. Don't stress and just learn a lesson and move on. You've said sorry, end of x

Jazzywazzydodah · 01/03/2017 13:03

Ah op try not be so hard on yourself.

I think my very close friend has 'moved on' and I consider her to be like a sister to me so I understand why you feel down about it.

Your friend sounds like she was looking for reasons to end the relationship anyway.

user1488306410 · 01/03/2017 13:05

I don't know. It was only the day before we'd spent the day together and had a pretty good laugh and catch up, so yeah it does confuse me a bit why she was actively searching for me online. I don't think its appropriate to even ask her at this point.

But she's not awful at all. In fact, whenever we see each other in person its always really lovely. Things have just seemed to have gotten messy behind the scenes and there's no way of talking it out

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TheOnlyLivingBoyinNewCork · 01/03/2017 13:18

I'm devastated I've upset her because it's not how I truly see her. It was just an objective observation to try and understand her better

If its an objective observation (not that it can be) then that is exactly as you truly see her. Basically you reduced her to all her components as you see them, many of them negative, and put them out for the world to see. After all, if she saw them and recognised herself, others could too.

Firstly the MBTI is scientifically flawed to begin with, also its intended to be administered and interpreted by a professional. It's a psychometric test, its completely unethical to test other people based on your own notion of them, without their knowledge or consent, but to do it online? It's unacceptable for anyone, but a close friend.....

Honestly, I know you're already upset so I'm not trying to be mean, but if I were your friend I would never speak to you again. And I am super easy going with friends. You really need to leave her be.

raindripsonruses · 01/03/2017 13:31

"did put a lot of lot of negative traits like stubborn, passive-aggressive, easily irritated etc. I really wasn't intending to be mean, just trying to paint a picture -"

I'd be livid if you did that about me - even if you also did it about yourself. Maybe you can rebuild this relationship somehow but what you did was cruel, meanspirited and unnecessary.

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