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Long marriage with controlling DH - he says I have just sponged off him

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HoarseAndSad · 04/12/2016 11:37

DH has always been really difficult and prone to get nasty if he can't get his own way.

Over the years he has let me make some decisions (for instance I make all the decisions about the children) but he will pull rank over some things, like finances. He also controls where I go and hates me having friends.

We married very young, soon after I had left school. I had been ill through secondary school so left with no qualifications, and he had a good trade, so I raised the children, ran the home and worked part time, fitting it around the family.

Meanwhile, he worked hard, and concentrated on his career which gave us a good standard of living, and eventually had several good promotions. He never contributed to the home other than financially - no bed time stories, or trips to the park, or washing up or cooking, as that was all left to me. He worked from home and would make life really hard by messing up the house while I was at work because i think he was resentful that I wasn't at home, so he made life retry miserable.

When our youngest was born, he insisted I got a part time evening job and he would look after the baby, but the it was awful - he would make me late every day, mess up the house while I was out, and the baby wasn't looked after properly, e.g. not fed or nappy changed or put to bed. Often I would get home and youngest would be roaming the house alone while DH had taken himself to bed.

I stuck it out for eighteen months but handed in my notice in the end. Since then (ten years ago) I have been a SAHM.

I have done a bit of volunteering but DH has been really unsupportive - in the last role, he decided (for no apparent reason) that I was cheating on him with another volunteer and kept threatening to confront this person until I gave it up.

About a year ago, he told me that I had been sponging off him for years, and he was sick of it. I have been trying to find a job since then, but he has put barriers up every time I have an interview, and ridiculed me if they are not what he thinks of as a good job. So I haven't found anything yet.

I feel such a failure - I thought I was doing the best thing by looking after my family but now it turns out that I am just some sort of fool who is now unqualified for anything and has very little work experience, and a DH who resents me every day because of it.

After he ranted at me all day yesterday about my lack of income while we put up the decorations, he told me today that he plans to open a separate account so I can't touch his money. He just doesn't understand that I can't just find a job that he thinks is suitable. I feel so low and worthless today, and so tearful .

Sorry it's so long. I know I should leave him, and I would, but I think I need a job before I can.

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jeaux90 · 04/12/2016 20:42

God it makes me so sad that he controls you like this. I left my abusive narc ex 6 years ago and I still remember that feeling of freedom to this day, the day I walked into my own place, the day he couldn't control me and my dd anymore. I wish you well getting yourself free, get legal advice, get bold, get your life back because it is your life xxxxx

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Shakey15000 · 04/12/2016 20:45

I hope you find the strength to do what you need to do. I understand waiting for the windfall etc but could you start syphoning cash now? Say you've bought more things for Christmas and the like? Good luck.

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HoarseAndSad · 04/12/2016 20:53

I certainly will start a secret fund tomorrow using some of your suggestions.

Thank you all so much.

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mamakena · 04/12/2016 21:19

Also OP pls realise that having successfully raised your children makes you a very accomplished person. You have a lot to be proud of. It's time for a free happy life. There are many jobs you can do very well. Just hold your head high and make your plan and go out there.

But pls be very very discreet, coz abusers are their worst when you're leaving. Keep your computer clean including the history bar. lock your phone. use excuses like going to visit your kids. That's how I got out and never looked back. Best wishes.

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nicenewdusters · 04/12/2016 21:57

I'm guessing he always expects you to go to bed at the same time as him? That's part of the script as well.

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HoarseAndSad · 04/12/2016 22:59

He used to make me wait until he was ready for bed, but luckily now he falls asleep on the sofa in the evenings, so I can sneak off.

I have been thinking though about how much of my life he controls. For instance, I could never just go and visit one of my adult children because I am not allowed to drive more than about eight miles (which is the far side of the nearest town). So that means I can get to the school/doctor/supermarket, but he would be livid if I went further.,It's all done under the guise of 'worry for my safety' but it makes me quite dependant.

He also decides if I am fit to drive, so if I have a cold or am a bit worried about something then I have to convince him that I am safe to get behind the wheel. And I couldn't go out in the car if we had a row - he would (and has) literally wrestled the keys from my hand on the driveway because he says I will crash the car. It's all apparently for my safety, but I think he is just trying to control me.

I have never driven to my adult children's homes. He has occasionally taken me there but he dislikes visiting them, so they usually come here.

It makes me feel really sad that I can't go and see my daughter and go shopping with her like her friends' mums do Sad

I will put that on my list of things that will change when I leave.

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HoarseAndSad · 04/12/2016 23:14

This makes me sound very passive and downtrodden. I am not really - I am quite upbeat and talkative in real life. I just have been given lots of rules to follow, and as long as I stick to them, things are pretty stable.

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CauliflowerSqueeze · 04/12/2016 23:23

I feel sick reading this. Angry but also so sad. How dare he control you like his slave. Who the fuck does he think he is?? He needs his bollocks kicked up his throat.

This windfall. Can you not organise for half of it to go into another account that he can't access? This is the only thing keeping you.

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CauliflowerSqueeze · 04/12/2016 23:26

If he is out at work in the day, can't you meet up with your daughter to go shopping?

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DixieNormas · 04/12/2016 23:34

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CauliflowerSqueeze · 04/12/2016 23:35

Oh right. Course he does. Needs to check up on his slave every second of the day. 😒

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BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 04/12/2016 23:44

A man such as him: no family, no friends, works at home, has a great deal to lose without you under his total control. This is why you need to be extremely circumspect. However, he is not a strong man. He is weak and inadequate, and this is why he bullies you so. He NEEDS you because he has not much else, not even the love of his children. What an effing failure of a human being he is!

Open up a bank account in your sole name. Preferably an online one not with the same bank as the joint-account you share with him. No statements coming to the house. Get cash-back when you go grocery-shopping and deposit it in your own account. Between now and when the windfall arrives you could have a decent sum.

Make plans about how you can get your hands on half of the windfall when it arrives. That's your running-away fund. You'll need it as you don't have much of a credit-history so could find it difficult to persuade a landlord to accept you as a tenant without offering a fair bit of rent in advance.

Keep your head down and start planning your escape from his prison. Be in no doubt that he'll likely try to make life extremely difficult for you once you decide to divorce him. You might have to go to court to force a sale of the family home, he could hide assets, all sorts of things and that is why you need copies of all important documents stashed away somewhere safe before you go. Don't forget that if he has a pension you should be entitled to a fair chunk of it, so find those documents!

Good luck to you, you have a wonderful life waiting for you once you've freed yourself from him!

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nicenewdusters · 05/12/2016 09:50

Morning OP. I should imagine you're feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the info and advice you've received this weekend. I hope it's a starting point for you, the beginning of your plan. I have found your posts upsetting to read. Please, above all, do not doubt yourself. Even recently you wrote I "think" he is just trying to control me.

He is controlling you. 100%. No doubt.

It is deliberate, malicious, and being done to meet his own needs. You are a separate person entirely to him, entitled to live the life you choose. He is weak, but you are incredibly strong to have lived with this bastard so long and to have raised your dc.

Be careful, plan what you need to do, and keep posting on here.

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LumelaMme · 05/12/2016 10:29

Maybe, for youngest's sake, I should just grit my teeth until he is older. I don't know
I used to wish my DM would leave my father. He was quite a shit, though not quite so much of a shit as your 'D'H.

As for not allowing you to drive more than 8 miles. WTF? I second all the advice about opening your own bank account (and if he asks, this is just such an expensive Christmas...), getting a part-time job and contacting a solicitor.

Flowers

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HoarseAndSad · 05/12/2016 10:41

Thank you. I am a bit overwhelmed this morning, and my head is a bit spinny.

It feels weird talking about it and having his behaviour reflected back at me. I feel disloyal, although not to him, but maybe to my little family set-up.

I have tried to talk about it a little bit before, to friends that I have had in years gone by, but I know I have underplayed it to them, and they just say 'yeah, mine's just as bad' and tell me some story about watching too much football or something. And one friend, when I told her a couple of times how he had stopped me going somewhere, said that we squabbled like two school kids.

I did once rock up on my mum's doorstep, with two toddlers, a double buggy, a carrier full of clothes, a violent smack mark on my face, old and new bruising on my throat (and everywhere else, if truth be told) and great clumps of hair missing, only to have her tell me that she wouldn't interfere between husband and wife, and that I needed to go back Sad

He doesn't hit me now (although I avoid situations that used to make him lash out now, so who knows).

Although when he was accusing me of cheating when I was volunteering, he would wake me up in the night and shout and pound the bed next to me with his fist, so I would keep really still until he stopped. But he says now, afterwards that it was because he was terrified of losing me and he was just overemphasising his deep feelings. But it was terrifying.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 05/12/2016 10:45

"Maybe, for youngest's sake, I should just grit my teeth until he is older".

No, do not do that whatever you do. It will just teach that child a shed load of damaging lessons on relationships which he/she could then enact. You will really become an empty shell of the person you were if you did that and he will simply continue to grind you down.

You know this treatment of you is wrong and you are stronger than you think you are; he has belittled you enough into thinking that you could not manage without him.

Your eldest now adult children have left home and have bad memories of their father. They saw and heard far more than you perhaps realised during that time too. They are not close to him unsurprisingly.

You have a choice re this man; your youngest child does not. Do not leave that child the same damaging legacy.

Please see a Solicitor asap and plan your exit away from this person who deliberately targeted you because of your own home circumstances. He saw in you someone he could and has indeed thoroughly exploited to his own ends.

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HoarseAndSad · 05/12/2016 10:46

This is all really unhealthy, this stuff, isn't it? I feel like I have opened a horrible can of worms.

I am so grateful to everyone who has posted - you are all so kind and clever, and I am taking it all in.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 05/12/2016 10:52

I have read many posts re abusive relationships and yours HAS is right up there in terms of severity of abuse over many years.

Its going to take you a long time, years even, to recover from him and his abuses of you but it is a journey that is well worth setting out on. You will certainly need to enrol on Womens Aid Freedom Programme to help reset your own skewed boundaries that he has caused you to have.

I am so sorry that your mother was neither of use nor ornament to you when you really needed her; she has also let you down abjectly as a parent and she is really not worthy to tie your shoes.

After hitting you as well to control you he also discovered that he could effectively control you using other methods. The example you cite of him hitting the bed could be seen as domestic violence within the home, it was also another way he employed to control and frighten you.

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KookSpook · 05/12/2016 10:52

Open up a bank account in your sole name. Preferably an online one not with the same bank as the joint-account you share with him. No statements coming to the house.

All your new online log in details will be sent to the house and possibly a card and pin. They will send them all seperately. I think its too risky.

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Veterinari · 05/12/2016 10:59

OP please talk to your adult children - they need to know that you need their help - If you were my mum I'd be devastated that you were living like this.

Please leave. Your husband is vile

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MrsBertBibby · 05/12/2016 11:08

OP, I'm a family solicitor. I've spent 20 years doing domestic abuse work. Your situation has really shocked me, and until you posted your age, I was visualising you as a much older person. This is appalling abuse, I hope you can find the support to get out, without waiting for your children to leave.

Can I very strongly suggest that you get advice from an experienced solicitor, right away? In particular, about the nature of this "windfall", since I see you are delaying things for it, and that may be completely unnecessary. A good solicitor will be able to give you some idea of your likely entitlement, even on partial information.

Go here

www.resolution.org.uk/landing-two-cols.asp?page_id=21

And find an accredited specialist ( preferably) in matrimonial finance local to you, or here

solicitors.lawsociety.org.uk/?Pro=True

To find someone with family accreditation.

If you are in Kent/Surrey/Sussex/SLondon I might be able to suggest someone.

Please don't stay where you are. You can escape, and live again. It will be a fight, but so worth it.

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HoarseAndSad · 05/12/2016 11:13

I am a bit of a useless lump this morning, so sorry if I am coming across a bit wet.

Does it really sound that bad?

I can't involve my older children - if he got wind of it, he would be furious, and he can be really vicious (verbally), and he has a big thing about being betrayed.

Likewise, I can't involve my mum or my good friend - they would be right in the firing line, and I wouldn't do that to them.

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Wombatron · 05/12/2016 11:17

Op I have no words of wisdom for you. But I have some technology advice. There are many apps that allow you to take photos of documents and effectively scan them. The phone 'scans' the pages and sends them to an email address. May be safer than having photos saved to your phone if you're keeping copies of things. Please PM me if you want to know more, DP and I use the app to keep our receipts.

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Veterinari · 05/12/2016 11:21

OP you can do this - you are a strong intelligent woman.

You have successfully raised your children and protected them from their abusive father.

Please seek help. Call women's aid and stop living in fear.

You can do this. You can be free and happy. You can shop with your daughter.

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HoarseAndSad · 05/12/2016 11:24

Thank you all so much for the advice and the links.

He is out at meetings one day this week (I don't know which day, because he never tells me in case I plan anything Sad) but I will try to find a solicitor then.

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