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Long marriage with controlling DH - he says I have just sponged off him

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HoarseAndSad · 04/12/2016 11:37

DH has always been really difficult and prone to get nasty if he can't get his own way.

Over the years he has let me make some decisions (for instance I make all the decisions about the children) but he will pull rank over some things, like finances. He also controls where I go and hates me having friends.

We married very young, soon after I had left school. I had been ill through secondary school so left with no qualifications, and he had a good trade, so I raised the children, ran the home and worked part time, fitting it around the family.

Meanwhile, he worked hard, and concentrated on his career which gave us a good standard of living, and eventually had several good promotions. He never contributed to the home other than financially - no bed time stories, or trips to the park, or washing up or cooking, as that was all left to me. He worked from home and would make life really hard by messing up the house while I was at work because i think he was resentful that I wasn't at home, so he made life retry miserable.

When our youngest was born, he insisted I got a part time evening job and he would look after the baby, but the it was awful - he would make me late every day, mess up the house while I was out, and the baby wasn't looked after properly, e.g. not fed or nappy changed or put to bed. Often I would get home and youngest would be roaming the house alone while DH had taken himself to bed.

I stuck it out for eighteen months but handed in my notice in the end. Since then (ten years ago) I have been a SAHM.

I have done a bit of volunteering but DH has been really unsupportive - in the last role, he decided (for no apparent reason) that I was cheating on him with another volunteer and kept threatening to confront this person until I gave it up.

About a year ago, he told me that I had been sponging off him for years, and he was sick of it. I have been trying to find a job since then, but he has put barriers up every time I have an interview, and ridiculed me if they are not what he thinks of as a good job. So I haven't found anything yet.

I feel such a failure - I thought I was doing the best thing by looking after my family but now it turns out that I am just some sort of fool who is now unqualified for anything and has very little work experience, and a DH who resents me every day because of it.

After he ranted at me all day yesterday about my lack of income while we put up the decorations, he told me today that he plans to open a separate account so I can't touch his money. He just doesn't understand that I can't just find a job that he thinks is suitable. I feel so low and worthless today, and so tearful .

Sorry it's so long. I know I should leave him, and I would, but I think I need a job before I can.

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Butterymuffin · 04/12/2016 15:10

One more person saying he is a horrible bully, and abusive, and that he is the one who should feel low and ashamed, not you. He's arranged his whole life around making you feel small. What sort of person does that make him?

Re jobs, you're right I would say that you will need training to get a decent job. Let's be clear: he knows this too. He knows the job market is mega tough if you have no experience/qualifications. He is telling you to go for these jobs anyway, and sabotaging you doing the ones you can do, like the Christmas temp job, because he wants you to fail. He would far rather you stayed unemployed and convinced of your own worthlessness than that you got any job at all, but continuing to harangue you about it is all part of making you feel bad. That's not a side effect: it's actually his goal.

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Butterymuffin · 04/12/2016 15:11

OP, do you have access to the finances? Or bank statements?

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HoarseAndSad · 04/12/2016 15:21

In the spirit of full disclosure, my illness during my last year at school was a huge mental health crisis including a suicide attempt, after my dad tried to kill us a few days before my parents' divorce was finalised. I was the only one who realised what he was about to do, and managed to stop him, but you can probably see why I am scared about the repercussions of leaving DH.

Yes, I have full access to all the family money. I can spend what I like on food and clothes for the youngest, although he doesn't particularly like me having anything nice. But in theory, I have access to all accounts and credit cards.

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JoeyJoeJoeJuniorShabadu · 04/12/2016 15:25

Time to make good your escape.
but you need to be very careful, as you may be in danger when he finds out you want out.
see a solicitor.
you are being abused.
please get help now.

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MotherFuckingChainsaw · 04/12/2016 15:27

Jeez. What a cunt.

Plan to get out of there.

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whitehandledkitchenknife · 04/12/2016 15:42

I second Joey's advice. Don't let him get even a sniff of what you may be thinking or planning. Don't even tell your children at the moment. For all of your sakes. Get hold of some cash, collect passports/medications/important documents etc and put them somewhere safe that he can't access. Take your time and plan carefully. If you think you may be in danger, you can contact Women's Aid (0808 2000 247) or the police for guidance.
When all of this is through, you might want to think about some counselling. You have been through the wringer and perhaps don't recognise just how badly you've been treated for such a long time. Even now, in my 50s, I am still coming to terms with my dreadful childhood and realising more and more just how traumatised I was/have been by it and how it has affected my whole life.

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HoarseAndSad · 04/12/2016 16:04

I am pretending all is well this afternoon, so that is good advice thanks! I have a very good 'game face' so the children don't see that I am upset, so I shall put that skill to good use .

I could tuck some money away, and start making a plan to escape. I think I have coming round to this for a long time, as I have been keeping notes on my phone, of the insults he uses

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Frequency · 04/12/2016 16:21

You don't have to wait until you are in danger to contact WA or even until you are sure you want to leave. Contact them as soon as it is safe to do so. They won't pressure you or force you to leave, they understand it's not always that simple, they know how impossible it all feels to you right now. What they will do is offer practical solutions that you are free to act on (or not act on) as you see fit. Whatever you decide they will not judge you and will continue to support you until you no longer need them, no matter how long that takes.

Your H is not your father. In all liklihood, he wouldn't harm you or your children (he will threaten to) most abusers don't take that step. Some do, a few highly dangerous men do take that step and you do need to keep it mind, but WA will be able to advise you on that too.

I would also see your GP about being referred to counselling and ask WA about their Freedom programme.

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whitehandledkitchenknife · 04/12/2016 16:51

Agreed Frequency.

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HoarseAndSad · 04/12/2016 18:17

I have had a look on the Women's Aid website, and have taken the quiz thing on there. It's pretty scary how many boxes I could tick.

I think I am going to get some work first of all - probably part time so he won't get too angry and stop me going. Then I suppose I ought to tuck some money away but I don't know how to get creative enough that he won't suspect.

He is very belligerent today, so I feel like leaving, so I hope this continues otherwise my resolve might crumble

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AnyFucker · 04/12/2016 18:22

You are married ?

Brilliant. Contact a solicitor first thing tomorrow and get the divorce under way.

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Butterymuffin · 04/12/2016 18:23

Imagine being in your own place, all peaceful and quiet, with no one to shout at you or tell you you were worthless. Imagine being able to use the budget you have to choose freely what to buy. Imagine going to work feeling calm and content, knowing you can spend time with your kids later and there will be no need to put on your 'game face' because no one will bully you. This is possible when you get out.

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HoarseAndSad · 04/12/2016 18:38

I would love a quiet place for the youngest and I to live in Smile

I don't want to leave too quickly because by April we will get a lump sum that will pay the mortgage off (and it's a big sum) and he might prevent me from getting it, and I think I will need it to set us up nicely.

I feel really sick and shaky today though .

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averylongtimeago · 04/12/2016 18:51

So you have 4 months to get your ducks in a row. Find and hide as much paperwork as you can, including bank statements, pension details, tax returns. If you can't keep the originals, take photos. Carry on looking for a job. Find out about you rights to benefits, how much local rental housing is.
If you can't do research at home, use the WiFi in the supermarket cafe or at the local library.
Then, when the time is right, just leave.
You don't have to put up with this shit.

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HoarseAndSad · 04/12/2016 18:52

I like the idea of seeing a solicitor though, and getting prepped to leave. I would feel better if I had a plan.

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GettingitwrongHauntingatnight · 04/12/2016 18:54

Hes a complete pig. You need to start planning to leave carefully. Contact winen's aid.

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GettingitwrongHauntingatnight · 04/12/2016 18:55

No offence to pigs.

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nicenewdusters · 04/12/2016 19:08

OP. So sorry you're in this situation, and for the terrible event with your father.

Don't wait. Think of your current/new "job" as disentangling yourself from this sick, vile man who is doing his best to ruin your life. He isn't strong and you weak. He's a tiny, scared little person who can only cope with life by destroying somebody else. But this of course makes him what he is to you, a bully who is abusing you emotionally and financially, and previously physically as well. We can all see him for the pathetic sack of shit that he is - as will you once you have reclaimed your life from him.

As others have said, disengage carefully to lessen the effect of his words and actions. Don't tell him any of your plans or hopes for future jobs or courses. If you feel you must wait till April set this as the finishing line. If you could get a job that was even just a couple of mornings a week that would be great. Don't think about "careers" at this point. Just a job that gets you out the house, gives you some money of your own, where you can reconnect with people.

He'll try and sabotage you, as he has already. You'll have to use your best poker face and try to keep him at arm's length. It won't be easy, he's an arch manipulator, and has had years to practice his sick little game. But you now have insight, knowledge, MN, and the will to get your life back. Leaving will be hard, but you already know what staying will be like, so that can't be an option. Women's Aid and a solicitor, then think about the job. You can do it Flowers

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nicenewdusters · 04/12/2016 19:11

Just to add, if you speak to a good solicitor it will reinforce just how much men like your husband are a cliche. They follow the same old script. In their minds they are so powerful, but in reality they are so pathetic.

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Atenco · 04/12/2016 19:26

You are entitled to half of all the assets, OP, and, if there is any justice you should get spousal maintenance for a while at least, apart from child maintenance.

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Cary2012 · 04/12/2016 19:31

When you do supermarket shop get some cashback, and squirrel it away. Even ten or twenty quid here and there will add up. It won't show up on statements, because it'll be part of the total bill, Just destroy receipts, I did that, and put it in what I called my FUF piggy bank (Fuck You Fund)!! x

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AnyFucker · 04/12/2016 19:34

No reason not to consult a solicitor now and start planning. You need impartial financial and legal advice, pronto

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Lambzig · 04/12/2016 19:55

OP, my heart goes out to you. What he has done and the way he behaves is appalling. I hope you can make plans to leave - if you can bear it, try to stay until the windfall, but I don't know how you have lived like this. What a pig of a man.

I wanted to post because I too am 49. I have just gone back to college and given up my part time job to focus on studying for my new career. It's not too late at our age. My study is funded by a student loan which is not dependent on household income, didn't get refused because of previous qualifications I have and I don't have to start paying back until I earn a certain amount (cannot remember how much). I am sure there are lots of options for funding study if you want to.

I really hope you can find a life away from this man.

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Shayelle · 04/12/2016 20:20

Good luck op we're all rooting for you Flowers

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HoarseAndSad · 04/12/2016 20:31

Thank you all again. I am reading and rereading all the advice, and I promise I am taking it all in.

I haven't told anyone about it really, although my oldest children know quite a bit, but I always turn it into 'your dad is so silly' because I don't want them to feel they have to help me at all. Nevertheless, none of them are close to him at all, and they all have unhappy memories of times when he was horrible to them, even though I always shielded them from the worst of it.

It is beginning to dawn on me today that the youngest and I don't have to live like this. I am quite scared though - he is downstairs in a bad mood because I am washing my hair, and he likes me to sit and watch telly all evening with him. I want to be able to have a shower without him making it into an issue.

I confess to having a sneaky look at right move Smile when he thought I was showering

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