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Long marriage with controlling DH - he says I have just sponged off him

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HoarseAndSad · 04/12/2016 11:37

DH has always been really difficult and prone to get nasty if he can't get his own way.

Over the years he has let me make some decisions (for instance I make all the decisions about the children) but he will pull rank over some things, like finances. He also controls where I go and hates me having friends.

We married very young, soon after I had left school. I had been ill through secondary school so left with no qualifications, and he had a good trade, so I raised the children, ran the home and worked part time, fitting it around the family.

Meanwhile, he worked hard, and concentrated on his career which gave us a good standard of living, and eventually had several good promotions. He never contributed to the home other than financially - no bed time stories, or trips to the park, or washing up or cooking, as that was all left to me. He worked from home and would make life really hard by messing up the house while I was at work because i think he was resentful that I wasn't at home, so he made life retry miserable.

When our youngest was born, he insisted I got a part time evening job and he would look after the baby, but the it was awful - he would make me late every day, mess up the house while I was out, and the baby wasn't looked after properly, e.g. not fed or nappy changed or put to bed. Often I would get home and youngest would be roaming the house alone while DH had taken himself to bed.

I stuck it out for eighteen months but handed in my notice in the end. Since then (ten years ago) I have been a SAHM.

I have done a bit of volunteering but DH has been really unsupportive - in the last role, he decided (for no apparent reason) that I was cheating on him with another volunteer and kept threatening to confront this person until I gave it up.

About a year ago, he told me that I had been sponging off him for years, and he was sick of it. I have been trying to find a job since then, but he has put barriers up every time I have an interview, and ridiculed me if they are not what he thinks of as a good job. So I haven't found anything yet.

I feel such a failure - I thought I was doing the best thing by looking after my family but now it turns out that I am just some sort of fool who is now unqualified for anything and has very little work experience, and a DH who resents me every day because of it.

After he ranted at me all day yesterday about my lack of income while we put up the decorations, he told me today that he plans to open a separate account so I can't touch his money. He just doesn't understand that I can't just find a job that he thinks is suitable. I feel so low and worthless today, and so tearful .

Sorry it's so long. I know I should leave him, and I would, but I think I need a job before I can.

OP posts:
notquitegrownup2 · 07/12/2016 13:13

Another one echoing how brilliant your dcs are. They must have been raised by someone very special!

Just to add, when you do look for jobs, don't underestimate 20 years experience of caring for children and running a home. These are very valuable skills in some areas - particularly in care work. It's not well paid, I know, particularly if you end up travelling from one person to another to deliver care, but if you get some basic training there are then openings to care for individuals more regularly or on a longer term basis.

Best of luck to you.

AgathaF · 07/12/2016 13:26

My goodness, your posts describe a horrific life. Yet, in spite of all that he has put you through, you have clearly raised balanced, empathetic and caring children. Children who see how amazing you are, and are more than willing to support you and your youngest to start a new life on your own. I'm so glad they are behind you in this.

Meemolly · 07/12/2016 13:39

So glad to read your decision OP and I hope you do it. My mum stayed and I felt it all, throughout my childhood, and I see the affect now that she is still in it. And I know, despite how she moans, she will never leave. All that happens is that she vents at me and then she goes home and tells him that I have said negative stuff about him, he gets moody at me, a never ending, miserable cycle. So I'm glad that you have the strength to go, and start a new life for yourself. Go you!

JellyBean31 · 07/12/2016 13:40

Another one joining the HoarseAndSad cheerleaders, you are amazing and the fact that you have raised such well rounded individuals in the face of such adversity is nothing short of miraculous. It truly does show how special you really are, I am excited for you to be finally (eventually)have an opportunity to shine.

My marriage was controlling but nowhere near to the degree of whayt you describe, I worked throughout our married life, and socialised - however, these were always bones of contention - I fought hard for what little independence I had, until such time as I got too weary to constantly fight for what is "normal" so I left. The dressing up control as "care" though strikes such a familiar chord.

The joy of doing the simple things like going out for tea and a few drinks and coming home at midnight on a work night or realising I can put screen wash in my own car is indescribable, I honestly can't wait for you to experience it.

For financial reasons I needed a 2nd job after we split, an evening bar job fits my schedule and I have previous experience. The fact that he was apoplectic with rage when he found out was just a bonus Grin

Toocleverbyhalf2 · 07/12/2016 14:22

Not much to add that hasn't been said by other MN'ers, but I'm rooting for you OP and hope you'll find the strength to carry it through Flowers

FlappysMammyAndPopeInExile · 07/12/2016 14:47

Rooting for you HoarseandSad - you will come through this and be stronger and happier than you could ever imagine. Your wonderful children will support you every step of the way, and so will we. Flowers

WizardLizard · 07/12/2016 14:58

You have done such a fantastic job raising your wonderful children into supportive level-headed adults. Rooting for you here too. You're being so brace and courageous.

WizardLizard · 07/12/2016 14:58

*brave!

HuskyLover1 · 07/12/2016 16:32

Haven't had the time to read every post, but having been thru similar I wanted to post some advice/practicalities:

  1. I am SURE he will react violently when he learns of your plans. Do not tell him alone. My ExH attacked me twice, having not been violent before.
  1. The free solicitor appointments are a bit crap. I didn't get good advice at all.
  1. You need your Solicitor to draw up a Separation Agreement, listing all your wants/terms and they send it to his Solicitor. Do not trust him to sell the house and give you money. You MUST do everything formally. It will cost about £1500.
  1. Let him pay the mortgage off before you reveal your plans.
  1. Child Benefit is always paid to the Mother.
  1. Get his payslips/P60 now, as proof of his Salary. If he gets bonuses, he can choose to give the CSA payslips from months that are bonus-less (Yes, the CSA are that shit, they will accept this, even if you tell them he gets bonuses twice a year).
  1. When you sell the house and split the proceeds, you are entitled to more cash than him because :
 a) You are entitled to "economic recompense", as you gave up your    career to care for the kids and he did not. This means you have been financially disadvantaged and you get compensated for this.

b) You are entitled to more cash, to account for his Pension. If he has a Pension that's bigger than yours, you get the cash equivalent.

eg....House sells for £400,000
His Pension = £150,000 as at the date of split
Your pension = £0

So, total assets = £550,000

Means you get £275,000 each.

Your whole £275,000 is in cash (from house sale proceeds)

He gets £125,000 cash
Plus £150,000 pension

This last thing was what enabled me to leave ExH. He had a big pension and I did not. Simply because I had worked Part time for years raising his kids.

Of course there may be other assets too. If your car is cheaper than his, take that in to account too.

Good luck!

ps) you really do need a shit hot Solicitor, they are worth their weight in gold. If you can't afford it, I'd suggest borrowing the money as you know it's only a matter of time before you get cash from the house sale.

TheSilveryPussycat · 07/12/2016 16:42

Caveat to Husky's advice: each divorce is unique, these are good guidelines; however, individual details can make a difference. Your SHL will advise.

Cary2012 · 07/12/2016 16:46

Good advice from Husky.

I can only reiterate her point about a SHL. Mine was very expensive, but she really was worth her weight in gold. I had to borrow money to pay her, but I'm so glad I did.

Good luck OP, I want to hug your DS1! He sounds wonderful.

Lordamighty · 07/12/2016 18:13

It sounds as though your DCs have been waiting for the day that you would decide to leave. All your lives & relationships with each other will flourish when this poor excuse for a husband is gone. God knows you deserve a medal for enduring his crap for this long.

Naicehamshop · 08/12/2016 07:36

How are you today, OP?
I hope you are still feeling positive and strong. Flowers

HoarseAndSad · 08/12/2016 07:57

I have to be quick, but I have a news!

DH (or Dick Head as I now like to think of him) went out last night to a Christmas dinner work thingy, and after much much much urging from DD, I face timed my mum (for the first time ever!) to tell her I wanted to separate from DH because he is so horrible and controlling. She was a bit shocked at first but rallied and was great!

I know she isn't fond of DH so I suppose it wasn't a surprise. Last time we visited, he was really aggressive to me and called me a 'fucking twat' in front of the whole dinner table.

I emphasised the effect that I was afraid it would have on youngest DS, and how the older ones think I would be happier for to live on my own, and she has offered me a lump sum to get a place of my own for DS and me! It'll be enough to rent a little place, near the school so DS can walk there. There are jobs there too! (Where we live now, it's quite rural, so everything is a drive, but there we could walk!)

I have to go, but quickly wanted to update and say thank you so much for pushing me to do this - you are all brilliant ( and I have started making a list of things to do, on my phone, although it's so coded, I am not sure if I will recognise the instructions!)

Seriously, big thanks and hugs to you all xxx

Gotta go

OP posts:
Soubriquet · 08/12/2016 08:04

Fantastic news!!

Oh I'm so happy for you. Really I am

Topseyt · 08/12/2016 08:10

That's great. Keep going and stay strong.

balence49 · 08/12/2016 08:11

Well done op! We are all cheering you on!! See your kids and mum will want to help! Just keep not letting on until all your ducks are in a row. Keep in sight what next Christmas will be like just you and your kids and mum. Xx

DoloresAbernathy · 08/12/2016 08:12

Brilliant to hear all your family are behind you, keep on with the momentum Hoarse you are doing amazingly Smile

smartiecake · 08/12/2016 08:13

Brilliant - so pleased you are getting the support you need in RL as well as on MN. We are all here supporting you. I hope you can see that there is light at the end of the tunnel and a way out for you. Be careful and cautious of him.

Lissettethehallswithholly · 08/12/2016 08:14

Well done OP! Great to have such a supportive Mum.

HoarseAndSad · 08/12/2016 08:26

It'll have to be in the new year because I need a job, but it's happening!!!

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BastardGoDarkly · 08/12/2016 08:28

Oh Hoarse you're bloody amazing!!! And Flowers

Soubriquet · 08/12/2016 08:32

New year is better than never!

balence49 · 08/12/2016 08:36

How is the Christmas shopping done op? Just thinking you may be Abel to get some Money stashed if it's all left to you and he doesn't check out what you are buying as gifts? Cash back in every shop?

BitOutOfPractice · 08/12/2016 08:41

Oh op that's brilliant. And hurrah for your mom

Don't forget as well you've got at least half of that windfall coming. That could be a nice deposit on your own home.

You are doing so well. Such giant strides forward. I'm so glad you posted here. Hug that secret close to you and enjoy knowing that you will be free of this man next year

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