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Is this emotional abuse or normal?

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user1480843266 · 04/12/2016 10:12

My long term boyfriend suffers with anxiety/depression and panic attacks. This year has been worse due to the loss of his father. Most of the time he is kind, generous, friendly, everybody likes him. He is great at giving advice and talking to people about their problems and help others need.

He has always overreacted to the smallest things with me and cannot seem to manage any kind of negativity in a rational way, so most of the time when he does something that upsets me or is inappropriate, I just let it slide.

However, every month he will absolutely blow up about something totally innocuous, it will usually be on a friday on weekend when he has his dc and we won't see each other. No matter what I say, how I defend myself, everything is wrong, everything is my fault. He will say, your family love me, I'd never do that, I'm there for everyone and bleat on about how perfect he is and how awful I am. This week I have been really ill, I caught it from him. I fuss over him when he's ill, I get medicine, cook for him, tell him to stay in bed, in the middle of the night, if he woke I'd ask he needs anything, he'd say no it's fine, but I'd go downstairs get him some lemsip or something or coffee and bring it up. He had panic attacks in the night, I'd get up with him, chat, hold him until it passed, told him I loved him. He thanks me for taking such good care of him.

Anyway I ended up really bad with it, with such a bad throat I couldn't talk for 3 days, bleeding throat, I really just should have been in bed. Instead what I did was go with him to a family dinner one night, worked for him in his office for a few hours on a job he asked me to do where I was not 100% myself. Of course I wasn't, I couldn't talk, spoke in whispers when needed and felt really bad, but didn't want to let him down. What I got for that was not thanks and empathy, was a tirade of text abuse about how I acted disinterested, rude and couldn't be bothered with his family, I couldn't believe it. I reminded him how ill I was (how ill he had been), I should have been in bed.

The text abuse has continued all weekend and extended into probably every argument we have had over the last 5 years, every aspect of my personality, how I am at work, with his family, how I am at gym... Anything and everything!?! Every month he does this to me. I walk on eggshells and now I'm paranoid about being ill, paranoid about how I act, the look on my face, what I say to people. My family do love him, but the thing is everytime he unleashes a ton of shit on me, I don't tell them because I want them to like him. I protect his reputation with my family. But this is killing me. I think he needs help. Some days he will say I will go to counselling, I needs some meds, what do you think? And then other days he'll say I'm not going to counselling, I don't need anything, I'm fine. He tells me he tells his family all about our dramas and I worry that they are getting a very unbalanced view of what is going on-I think it's a violation that he tells them tbh.

Sorry if this long and it may not seem like much, he is not physically abusive but I feel so depressed over this, nothing is ever his fault, and he completely ignores anything I say and just keeps repeating the same thing then tells me I've taken it too deep! Two months ago, he screamed 'I'm done, I'm out!' and told me good luck. He let me suffer for days and then told me he hadn't said it. He is a good man, but he has mental health issues and needs help. I think though he would rather destroy me and our relationship than get that help. He doesn't behave this way with anyone else, just me.

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frieda909 · 07/12/2016 15:18

You are doing so well! One thing to remember is that photos can be very deceiving. They usually paint a picture of the happiest times and leave out all the bad bits. When you look at those photos, try to remember what else was happening around that time after the camera clicked. I think you may well start to remember less than rosy things about those days?

My ex spent hours making me the most elaborate birthday cake one year, for a party we were having the following day. I was thrilled and posted lots of happy photos all over facebook, praising this lovely cake and how much effort this wonderful man had gone to for me. I used to look back at those photos and find it hard to reconcile that with the man who also treated me so appallingly for so many years.

Then I thought about it a bit more and things started to come back to me. Like how, after showing me the cake and getting me to post photos of it online, he declared that he was exhausted and left me to clean up the mess he'd made in the kitchen, including finding a way to cover up this enormous cake to keep it safe for the next day. He didn't have any suggestions as to how I could do that, just left me to it. It was really fiddly and I smudged some of the decoration in the process. He came back into the kitchen and promptly yelled at me for about ten minutes for 'ruining' all his hard work, then wouldn't speak to me for about three hours. On my birthday.

Now when I come across those photos I don't feel so nostalgic any more! It will take time but I promise you will get there too!

user1480843266 · 08/12/2016 06:24

Thanks, I know it is really hard. Just so raw at the moment. I had to come off facebook, because I just can't bear to look at all that and everyone's lives carry on as normal.

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lifesucks75 · 13/12/2016 06:26

Hi user, re the texts....now this is exactly what my ex does. I have tried to finish it so many times in the last few years and he bombards me with pictures and texts reminding me of things we did etc. They start to panic that's why...because they KNOW that if they let contact dry up then we WILL start to get over them and once that happens they wont have any power over us whatsoever...its a way of still controlling us from afar If you like, bullying us into going back to them by twisting our heads up.

Now, re the pictures, they were killing me too (I have put this on my thread, somewhere near the end but i'll tell you anyway). I've started to put a backstory to every one. Example: The picture where he asked me to marry him written In big letters across the beach - hours later he was shouting at me because I handed him a cup of tea and HE spilt it, that was MY fault for not putting it on the table...but if I had, he'd have shouted at me for making him bend to reach it. The picture he took of me and the kids with the coca cola truck....i'd been on eggshells all afternoon because it was raining and we didn't have an umbrella...he doesn't like getting wet and I could sense his rage building up. Our pretty Christmas tree last year...we had to do twice as he'd kicked off over something trivial, leaving me in pieces. List them here or write them down and read again whenever you need reminding. It helps me anyway, its worth a try.

lifesucks75 · 13/12/2016 07:08

I've just thought of something else strange that mine used to do, don't know if anyone's ever had this: We'd be sitting watching tv say, (a rare moment of peace) and from absolutely nowhere he'd say "I KNOW". I'd say "huh? know what?" "OH I KNOOOOW" and he'd give me that smug, self satisfied look. I'd start thinking, what have I done that he knows about? What could I possibly have done now to upset him? I'd drive myself mad trying to think of everything i'd done that day, week....of course, I hadn't done anything at all. Just another one of his twisted mind games...possibly to frighten me....possibly to try and bluff me into admitting to one of the many affairs he always imagined I was having. I mean come on! I was by his side almost 24/7 and on the odd occasion he'd go to see a friend, he always knew EXACTLY where I was, he'd phone me roughly every 20 minutes as he was "worried something had happened to me". This is also why he'd make an excuse to follow me into the toilet, (because i'd started taking my phone with me, pretending I was playing on my game because I knew he kept going through it looking for "evidence"...he obviously wouldn't find any but then he'd just say i'd hidden it better so I couldn't win. He always used to say "you don't have to leave the house to cheat"!

I mean, if it makes you feel any better, things WILL start to change but you perhaps wont notice at first. Example: I called my friend the other day and she wasn't in, her dp answered the phone. He asked if I was ok (he knows what's been going on) we had a little chat for about 15 mins while we waited for her...(it's nice sometimes to hear it from the perspective of a decent, normal man). She came in while we were still on the phone, no jealousy from her...why would there be? (we've all known each other since we were kids and they TRUST each other). There is NO WAY, I would have been allowed to do that, i'd have been the biggest slag ever, trying to steal my friend's man etc etc....he'd have screamed and shouted at me, packed his bags and gone flying out of the door...and i'm not kidding. That is how jealous and possessive he was. It hurts....but i'm SO glad i'm out of it.

user1480843266 · 13/12/2016 07:40

I am trying to hold it together and things are going as well as to be expected. I remind myself constantly of the bad things to cope. How do you stop feeling like you have wasted all these years of the one life we get.

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lifesucks75 · 13/12/2016 08:00

I try to think of it as a lesson, that it can only make me a stronger person and lead to much better things...for example...I've always been very shy...my entire life...quite socially awkward, but since this has happened and i've been on my arse, it has FORCED me to reach out to people (and at this point still really I couldn't give a flying fart what people think of me), that's actually helped me gain a bit of confidence I think. The other thing is, if what we are going through can help another woman escape then its worth it...because no one deserves what we've been through. It's on here now for people to read and may just give them the courage to get out. You have to look at it like that. I know its SO hard. We're going to have bad days, but strong people fall and get up and try again and we are strong aren't we? Only way to beat a bully is to stand up to them Flowers

Naicehamshop · 13/12/2016 08:00

Tell yourself how brave you've been to walk away from it! You have been incredibly strong. Flowers

lifesucks75 · 13/12/2016 08:11

Is there anything you like to do that would take your mind off it? Even if it seems crazy to other people? Me, I dance around the living room with the music on..just because i'm free now and I CAN. Honestly, it does help Smile

user1480843266 · 13/12/2016 17:22

I'm planning a few new things to do, ditching gym and doing some other activities instead, just to change the routine and meet new people.

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DrowningInPoop · 13/12/2016 21:06

Hope things are looking a bit brighter today OP

Evilstepmum01 · 13/12/2016 22:07

just read your thread OP and I think you're lovely! Your children are lovely too, supporting you. Reading how he treated you made me so angry! Reminded me of my ex! Well done for getting out and going NC-not easy! And you went to the doctors too-brilliant!
After leaving,I didnt ask for help, I spent wasted 5 years being afraid to leave the house and thinking myself worthless before I finally got counselling and my life turned around.
Hang in there, keep talking, you're lucky to have a supportive family!
take care of yourself, you're worth it! Flowers

jj98 · 18/05/2019 01:25

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jj98 · 18/05/2019 01:50

I’m so sorry I am new to this and posted this on your thread by accident. I have reported it as spam as I don’t know how to delete it. Again I am so so sorry. Flowers

Bananalanacake · 18/05/2019 10:24

hello jj. you need to start your own thread.you will be told this is a common abuse tactic. those who threaten suicide rarely do it and if he does he can't bother you anymore.

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