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OH told me I have big vagina

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boysboysboys123 · 18/09/2016 12:41

Hi

I've been with OH for 5 years & we have 2 kids. Generally I'd say we have a great relationship-it was certainly great before we had kids. He's still loving, supportive & a good dad.
But he has a habit of saying hurtful things about how I look.
A few months ago he told me I had saggy boobs & a few weeks back after a few drinks he told me how my vag had gone wider after having the kids.
While this is prob true it was mortifying to hear-I am now avoiding sex cos the 1 time we did it since I was excruciatingly self conscious.
He did apologise but in that conversation mentioned my belly, the fact I've put on weight & said he loved me anyway (like I'm a charity case & he's doing a good deed). Then a few days later he mentioned my stomach sticking out. I feel like he hates me.
To put this into perspective I'm a size 12 & smaller than before the kids, so while my body is different obviously I haven't radically changed. And while I have insecurities when I go out without him I feel good about myself.

I can cope with the fact he's not one for compliments but these things hurt me & I don't know that'll I'll ever feel attractive to him again.

AIBU?

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keepingonrunning · 19/09/2016 00:43

He sounds like a covert aggressive personality.
Absolutely no way is he genuinely loving and supportive. You need to consider it's all acting. Listen to your sixth sense. Does your skin crawl when you are around him. Have you noticed odd things about his behaviour, discrepancies between what he says and what he does, odd reactions to situations sometimes.
Watch out for him steadily chipping away at your self-esteem and confidence over months and years, criticising everything about you.
It's deliberate.

keepingonrunning · 19/09/2016 00:50

And it's abuse.

HelenaDove · 19/09/2016 01:15

Llama i find it interesting thats what youve latched onto. Rather than some of the excuses for his behaviour being trotted out on here.

Its a bit like saying a victim of bullying is as bad as the bullies when the victim finally sticks up for themselves.

cdtaylornats · 19/09/2016 01:20

Tell him you didn't complain at first when you expected a Wurlitzer and got a Stylophone.

aintnothinbutagstring · 19/09/2016 01:23

I'd find someone with a bigger cock, personally. He sounds absolutely vile.

aintnothinbutagstring · 19/09/2016 01:28

And also, don't quite get this... you feel like he hates you, yet he is not abusive (in your 'professional' opinion)?! Well no, not physically maybe, but sounds like he does fuck all for your emotional wellbeing and self-esteem.

mathanxiety · 19/09/2016 01:30

If you tell him how his words make you feel and he keeps on saying them, then yes, this is abuse.

Did he have a similar pattern before the DCs were born?

Was there anything that he criticised you for before?
If you told him to stop and told him how that made you feel, did he stop? (Assuming there was something he honed in on).

If this is something that has only happened since you had DCs and he became father of a family, then it is not autism.

There is a bit of cognitive dissonance going on when you can say, in the OP:
Generally I'd say we have a great relationship-it was certainly great before we had kids. He's still loving, supportive & a good dad.
But he has a habit of saying hurtful things about how I look.

This especially must jar with everything you want to believe:
I feel like he hates me.

I can cope with the fact he's not one for compliments
But it's not ideal, is the subtext there, perhaps?
Would you like compliments?
Or would you settle for no more disgust expressed towards your body?

He did apologise but in that conversation mentioned my belly, the fact I've put on weight & said he loved me anyway (like I'm a charity case & he's doing a good deed). Then a few days later he mentioned my stomach sticking out.
You must have registered some response, or he wouldn't have given the non-apology. Did you confront him?
This episode when he didn't actually apologise and actually held his ground, and then basically did the same thing again a little while later should show you that he isn't interested in building the relationship, or your feelings, or anything but wallowing in the reason he is in this relationship at this point (whatever his intentions may have been initially). What he is getting out of it now is the chance to be cruel to you.

This is how things have become such a mess. He has chosen this. This is what he wants.

HelenaDove · 19/09/2016 01:33

Great post math.

LouisvilleLlama · 19/09/2016 01:39

Helena to be honest all the replies were saying/ supporting the same tiny cock sentiment so I just skipped loads and still saw it and posted my comment so that's my fault. I think excusing his behaviour is not on either, after all once you may get away with calling it banter ( to me it's just another way of dismissing bastard like behaviour) but to carry on is awful.

And I was bullied and I don't think it's the same there's a difference from saying it in the moment, rather than just bringing it up randomly that's just causing trouble yourself, and I don't think retaliating and just slinging more and more hurtful comments at each other will resolve anything, addressing him about it may and if that doesn't work then if OP may have to take another route perhaps even separation

astormgivenflesh · 19/09/2016 02:05

Perhaps he feels insecure about his own body and is projecting that onto you? Absolutely no excuse and he needs to fuck off out of it with the insults, but might be worth reminding him that your body is not his business and that HIS body hang ups are not to be projected onto you?

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Yayme · 19/09/2016 02:09

You need a rethink. You don't think he said those things to make you feel bad ....but in your op you say it's as if he hates you. It sounds very deliberate to me.

keepingonrunning · 19/09/2016 02:16

You are already listening to your spidey sense, your sixth sense. And it's telling you he hates you. Believe it.
He's telling you who he is when he says those things - someone who enjoys being cruel to you. Ask yourself if you want to stay in a relationship with someone like that.

KittyWindbag · 19/09/2016 05:22

Ask him what he thinks he's achieving by being critical of your post-birth body? What does he think such hurtful words are going to do to you, his wife, who he is supposed to love and support for better for worse, etc?

I know you say he's not abusive. But this is extremely unkind behaviour, and if you feel good about yourself UNTIL you're with your husband - that's the wrong way round tbh. He's supposed to lift you up, not bring you down.

GarlicMist · 19/09/2016 06:04

Do pay heed to math's post, boys. Having professional experience of abuse is no protection against suffering it - quite the opposite in many cases; you "know all about it" but somehow that doesn't translate into the uncomfortable feelings you're having in your own relationship.

There's a difference between 'an abuser' and someone who behaves abusively in certain situations - but that difference is so finely nuanced as to be almost invisible. Your husband behaves abusively towards you.

I don't suppose you'd accept this detailed vilification of your body from a stranger, would you? Then why accept it from someone who purportedly loves you and cares to make you happy?

Starryeyed16 · 19/09/2016 06:10

This reminds me so much of my ex DS DF. He couldn't handle the fact that my body changed after having a baby and dispite going back to a size 10 in a couple of weeks tried to force illegal slimming tablets on me and commented on my 'horrible stomach' and stretch marks! Believe it or not he has extensive scarring on his leg from having cancer as a teenager but a couple of marks on my stomach was repulsive according to him. Looking back he was insecure beyond believe and it was his way of keeping me in my place. I wish I had the strength at the time to leave him but he did me a favour when he cheated and left me. I have a loving DH who couldn't give too hoots about my marks and have gone on to have further DC.

bearleftmonkeyright · 19/09/2016 06:19

Most decent men are in awe of the fact that your body has produced their children. All women's bodies change. I started going to a swimming class a few years ago and there were some ladies in the changing rooms I knew who were super fit and attractive and took part in triathlons. They had recognisable stomach from having children. It sounds terrible that I was nosing at these ladies but I'm just trying to impress how normal it is and how wrong your husband is. He will break you if he continues and you will struggle to see that there is nothing wrong with you and everything wrong with him. And that is abuse.

mogratpineapple · 19/09/2016 12:27

And you're a size 12 ffs. My goal is to be a size 12. Endorse everything said above.

LellyMcKelly · 19/09/2016 16:08

You could say "It's not me. Your cock is shrinking. That do that as you get older."

Memoires · 19/09/2016 16:42

They do say that larger women have smaller fannies. I have no idea if that's true. Maybe there's internal fat which makes it feel smaller?

adora1 · 19/09/2016 16:52

I would honestly leave him over this, it's totally unacceptable, he seems to enjoy putting you down, do not stand for it anymore OP, he's being abusive, what an absolute cunt, that's not a supportive equal partner you have there, it's a weak, egotistical coward who gets off on bringing you down.

GingerbreadCake · 19/09/2016 17:00

YANBU. He's being passive aggressive, deliberately cruel and attempting to bring you down. There are no two ways about this. He is a cruel twat.

You obviously aren't or you would have retaliated if it were me I would have said:

"Oh so we are being completely honest about each other's bodies now are we? Do you want your appraisal right now Adonis? Don't worry- I love you anyway!"

See if he bites. Then give an uncompromisingly honest account of each of his body parts, the spots on his bum, his moobs, his saggy balls, his weird nipple hair. Round it all off with a "don't worry dear, I love you anyway. Ok what shall we cook for dinner?"

If that doesn't shock him into submission them it's a LTB from me. I couldn't be with someone who despised me so much he made me feel like shit on a regular basis.

Do not be bullied. Give it back to him. The c*%#

headinhands · 19/09/2016 18:50

I had an ex years ago who would repeatedly point out my 'flaws'. My wrinkles, the veins behind my ears. He even said I wasn't allowed to run in front of him because he 'didn't fancy' me when I was running. That relationship decimated my self confidence. OP, loving partners love and adore you. They relish your foibles. The right partner builds you up. Does your partner help you achieve beyond what you think you can? Or is his behaviour towards you leaving you feeling inadequate and unlovable?

SabineUndine · 19/09/2016 20:02

Next time he suggests sex, tell him to have a wank cos he can make his hand as tight as he wants it.

I wouldn't ever have sex with him again. He doesn't deserve it.

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