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Sadly familiar story

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Sammyhb · 21/06/2016 13:57

So it's a familiar story, husband has just told me he doesnt have romantic feelings for me any more, been together 15 years, married for 5, 2dc aged 7 and 5.

Just looking for some advice on how to tell the kids, what to do next? He's not abusive, we get on as friends, he just acts like a child. I asked him to leave but he goes very whiny and asks me why I'm being mean to him if I get angry, I mean wtf?

Haven't told any friends or family yet.
We nearly split up in 2014 due to him smoking too much weed and turning into a megalomaniac when his business took off (I was a SAHM for two years which caused a massive imbalance in our relationship). It came to a head when I had to have two emergency ops in six months and he was absolutely crap at supporting me and told me he had feelings for someone at work.

I saw a solicitor then but he stopped smoking completely and we went to counselling. Seemed to sort lots of things out and did lots of great things last year (Road trip across Europe with the kids, lovely Christmas etc).

He's just told me he doesnt have any intense feelings for me and hes attracted to other people which he doesnt feel is right. He never had a long term relationship before me and he's 40 this year so might be a mid life crisis but just don't have any more energy left to deal with him being such an irritating twat. The kids adore him though, not sure how to do this calmly and amicably, just want to take a crowbar to his face at the moment

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Sammyhb · 16/07/2016 08:18

I know, I'm working towards that point. Hes had his solicitors letter now so once we discuss that (don't want to discuss it in front of the kids) it should be clearer to him. These few weeks have been about them getting used to him not sleeping here any more.

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user1466803045 · 16/07/2016 22:32

Hi Sammy,

Pleased to hear from you and that you have have updated your thread.

I completely understand about how you make yourself scarce when he is around.

I am beginning to feel very tense when I know he is about to come home from work. I just don't want to see him. He has made me dislike him so much.
He still thinks that after we have been on holiday he can live merrily in the loft however this only fills me dread.

You seem to be making progress regarding work from your solicitor. That's good.

Let me know how the night out with the girls went. Hope it was all ok :-)

Take care xx

user1466803045 · 19/07/2016 19:23

Hi Sammy,

Everything ok ? x

RunRabbitRunRabbit · 19/07/2016 20:44

The cheeky fecker gets all the Sunday lunches and none of the work! One week you cook and clean up. The next week it's a restaurant but you aren't invited. The brass neck is strong in him.

You don't need to "discuss" it to change it you know, just an email could do it. Doing the "discussion" of practical arrangements by email would probably be better anyway. There is a record. You can think and answer calmly at your own pace, maybe after taking advice. It is a good way: for you. Not for the brass necked brow beater though. I bet he loves a good "discussion"

Sammyhb · 19/07/2016 23:45

Yes you are right RunRabbit, it's only since he moved out I realised how much he has been manipulating me. Our discussions always turn into arguments with me thinking there is something wrong with me, I don't set out to argue with him but he has me going round in circles until I get angry or cry. We are supposed to all go to the restaurant but the more we do things together the more my kids can see through it. My eldest gives me loads of extra hugs when dad is around as he can see I'm putting on a front and it's not worth it if they aren't convinced.

User, I had a great night out with my friends, most of them know him really well and they were completely baffled by what has happened.

How are things with you now?

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user1466803045 · 20/07/2016 21:32

Hi Sammy,
So sorry to read that he turns the discussion into argument and then makes you feel as though your in the wrong. How they can twist things ! You've got to show him that you won't be worn down by him or he is getting to you.

Spending time altogether can be so awkward. How lovely that your eldest is tuning into your feelings and giving you lots of hugs but on the other side I bet you don't want to feel as though it's his/ her role to do that.

Pleased that your night out went well I hope you have a good bunch of friends who will be there for you.

I'm not enjoying it here at the moment. I dislike him coming home from work as it just puts me on edge. Much better by myself.

Last night after he had settled one of the kids he got changed
and went straight out to his girlfriends. I'm now use to this happening but for whatever reason last night it brought me to tears.Which started before he left. Frustrating.

Even though we are living separately in the same house I cannot make a claim for the benefits I am entitled to until he moves out! Banks and buildings society's won't offer me a mortgage because my earnings are to low. Hoping I will get 60% share of the house when we sell. Whenever that will be. Just want to scream!!!

Sorry to take over your thread xx

smilingeyes11 · 20/07/2016 21:42

I thought you could claim for benefits if you were living separately in one house. Am sure many others have done so?

user1466803045 · 20/07/2016 21:57

Hello smilingeyes,

I've rang hmrc twice and have been told no both times. I'm really disappointed. Might call citizens advice tomorrow,

Thanks xx

user1466803045 · 21/07/2016 21:00

Hi Sammy and smiling eyes,

Had a first positive today and just wanted to share my news.

I am able to make a claim for working and child tax credits even though he is still living here. I explained that even though he lives here we are living seperate lives. We cook seperately, don't share the same bed, sit in seperate rooms etc

So pleased :-)

How has your day been Sammy? x

Sammyhb · 21/07/2016 23:44

Thats great news, at least you have a bit more independence with some extra cash. Really pleased for you, first of many little triumphs I hope x

Went to mediation today and two sports days where we studiously avoided each other. Mediation seemed a good way forward, as long as he makes a full disclosure of his finances......

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user1466803045 · 30/07/2016 14:54

Hi Sammy,

How is everything with you and your children? And him?
How's have the school holidays been so far?
xx

Sammyhb · 30/07/2016 23:46

Hi

Things have been up and down. The children are really missing him now and asking lots of questions about what's been going on. He hasn't told his family what's been happening so I told them and they were lovely. I've stopped feeling numb and now every day is a roller-coaster of ups and downs - pleased about some things I'll never have to put up with, desperately sad about some of the things we'll never do again.

How are things with you? Xx

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user1466803045 · 01/08/2016 23:13

Hi Sammy,

Sorry about the delay in my reply.

I bet you don't like seeing your children going through all this upset. Upset that someone else has caused and decided for you.
Must be hard answering their questions and keeping it all together.
I am loving my days with just me and the children. We've had lots of days out and had fun.
Hate going back to the house and finding out that he is home from work. Just want to avoid him. It is both emotionally and mentally draining him going to his girlfriends house straight after the children have gone to bed. It upsets me. Big conversations happening about this when we return from holiday. Have got it all planned what I'm going to say and will produce all my evidence about his 'secret' girlfriend.
When out and when he is not at home I am completely in the mind set of me being a single mum and I feel ok about it. Have been looking after me a bit more over the last week or so.
Children don't know yet and when they find out it's going to be so hard and tough. I've already cried tears for them 😥

Hope your days have more ups than downs Sammy. Stay strong and focused on you and your children.

softygirl · 22/01/2018 16:02

Just wanted to post an update for anyone who followed this thread or has read it and wondered what happened.

Sooo...we are still not divorced, I had to serve divorce papers on him twice but he is, as many of you said he would, pretending his business is in trouble and he doesn't have any money to give me. We are going back to court at the end of Feb, I am in a ridiculous amount of debt persuing this but I will get what I am owed and this year is definitely my year.

He had fudged most of his financial paperwork but the latest accounts suggest he earns 9k a month (including 4.5k of unspecified "expenses"). Tax credits and loans from friends and family have saved me. The judge at previous hearings has wiped the floor with his attitude but we have now just sent in official valuers for his company as he says I need to give him 15k to stay in my house because he doesn't have any money.

He ignored the first lot of divorce papers. My friend's husband served the second lot (as would have had to pay £100 for someone else to do it) This friend worked with him and found out a lot of horrible stuff about the full extent of his cheating. Basically he got caught shagging a random girl at his office Christmas party two years before he left us. My friend was not at the party but he got one of his managers to call her team into his office and tell them if she was told that person would get the sack. Nice. Several months after the party the girl he shagged got made redundant. She was by all accounts great at her job.

As soon as my friend found this out she came round to tell me (November 2016) and we arranged for her husband (who is a prison officer and built like a tank) to serve divorce papers on him at their office Christmas party at the start of Dec which they did. My friend had already got another job. I wrote him a letter to go with the papers letting him know I knew what he'd been doing.

He still doesn't have the kids overnight as he has been claiming since then that he lives at his office. (He never did move in with his best mate as I now realize the "mate" was deeply embarrassed about what he'd done and didn't want to be seen to be supporting him).

He's had a new girlfriend since at least September 2016 (probably sooner). I haven't met her but she's nice to my kids. She's 27, he's 41. He takes her along to all family events and has just slotted her in the space where I was apparently. Unsurprisingly I no longer think he's my best friend.

We only communicate via Whatsapp now, whenever we try to talk in person he manipulates the conversation.

On the upside though I am so much happier now, really. I have changed the house to look much more me, I have changed the locks and got rid of most of his stuff. I am seeing a gorgeous man who makes me feel great about myself, is completely my equal and is my age with two boys the same age as my sons. I got a new job so I could claim tax credits and that has worked out really well. I am now awesome at tackling all sorts of day to day crap he used to say I was too stupid to understand such as I chose a new fridge freezer and got myself some car finance after the old banger he got me finally gave up the ghost.

It has been hard and continues to be difficult in many ways, but I am stronger and mightier than I have ever been in my life. I feel empowered taking his miserable ass to court to get a fair settlement. My kids see me being in control and making my own decisions and not being stressed and angry and upset.

I am really excited for the future. True, I will still have to deal with this idiot I married until my youngest turns 18 but I am not sad about our relationship being over any more. I know now what I am worth and I will never put up with his crap or anyone else's crap ever again.

ChaChaChaCh4nges · 22/01/2018 16:53

What a wonderful update. Well done you!

yetmorecrap · 22/01/2018 17:11

Good on you!! I have said on other posts, its amazing sometimes that what feels like a calamity can actually be a personal revitalizer!!

leftwiththedognow · 22/01/2018 20:32

RTFT tonight for the first time. OP you are a credit to yourself, you really are.

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springydaff · 23/01/2018 06:31

Bravo! Bravo! What a GREAT update Flowers

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softygirl · 20/03/2018 13:18

Last update, promise. Divorce was finalised end of Feb, I got the house plus 150k which means I can pay off the mortgage, my debts and have some left over to do house repairs/put something aside for the kids.

ExH is renting a four bed house nearby and is having the kids overnight twice a week and every other weekend.

New girlfriend is apparently scared of me and legs it every time I come anywhere near her, really couldn't give a shit about it now but she obvs thinks I will punch her lights out.

All the stress of the last two years is slowly evaporating now it's over.
So to everyone in the same position: it will get better, being without a sulky cheating fucker improves your life no end, the courts are on your side and you will realise you are stronger than you ever knew you were x

hellsbellsmelons · 20/03/2018 14:26

I started reading this and thought it was a Zombie thread.
But what a journey.
You've done amazingly well and things are working out for you.
Well done taking him to court and getting what you are owed.
And a new man!
Life is always better once you get rid of a cheating scumbag.
Inspiring story - well done OP!

ChickenMom · 20/03/2018 14:48

Brilliant update. Thank you and well done you. Are you still seeing that gorgeous new man who makes you feel wonderful?

notapizzaeater · 20/03/2018 15:38

Fantastic news, onwards and upwards 😁😁

CakeForBreakfast · 20/03/2018 19:19

Thank you for updating. It’s really good to hear how it went and I’m very very glad to hear how Well you are doing.

Isn’t it funny, he started off feeling he deserved more than you (as in more than one woman) - what an entitled swine, but it’s you who has come out of this in the better position and certainly a better person.

He didn’t deserve you. He wasn’t and isn’t good enough. On some level Im sure he knows this and I bet it chokes him.