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Meeting BF's parents first time but BF is nervous wreck

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ameliepoulet · 23/02/2016 16:13

Sorry this is long. My bf wants me to make a 'good' impression on his parents. I am 25 and he is 24. I have met his parents once briefly at church and they were charming and lovely and bf talks about how great they are. They are very close. We are going to his parent's home this weekend for lunch and at first I thought it would be nice to spend time together and get to know his parents better. We have been together 8 months. He has already met my family and my family say he is great.

Bf has turned into a nervous wreck as he has already 'dumped' four girlfriends after their first time at his home because they 'failed to make a good impression'. He says he loves me and that he is nervous because he really wants me to do everything perfectly so that his parents will 'love me' as much as he does.

He has also given me a list of do's and don'ts because he knows what will 'work' on his parents. Some of these borderline on the ridiculous and some completely patronising (i.e., I do know where to put a napkin) Here they are from his email:

offer to remove shoes when you arrive
remove your shoes even if they insist it is 'up to you'
no swear words - ever, even if we get married and we've been married for 40 years - no swearing in front of them.
never ever put a glass down on the table without a coaster - it is a cardinal sin
never take any alcohol, even if offered and waved in front of you insistently - IT IS A TEST - dad doesn't even know how to use a corkscrew - they don't drink.
make sure you eat everything on your plate
make sure you eat dessert however full you are
put the napkin on your lap
it is a round table - the bread plate is to your left.
They will watch how you eat like a hawk - pray there is no soup or spaghetti
when you are done eating leave your cutlery at 5'o clock position - dad is very particular about that
help clear the table even if told not to and do it as soon as my mum stands up
insist on washing up and do it very well - mum will check everything
wear the gloves for washing up or mum will say you don't take care of your hands and give you a long lecture about the importance of ladies keeping hands smooth
do not show me any affection and don't expect me to show you any
Don't talk about the environment - dad hates the environment
Make sure you emphatically tell them you don't have a tattoo and never will - I swore an oath to them I would never marry a girl with one.
My mother is practically psychic and can detect a lie or falseness a mile away so just be your lovely self, and just forgive my silly list.

I told him he is being ridiculous and controlling and how can I be myself with so many ridiculous 'pieces of advice' or even relax. I even threatened to get a tattoo. He is already a nervous wreck and he says that he is nervous because of his last 4 girlfriends though he says he didn't love them. I wasn't nervous before. I am sure his parents are lovely but now I don't even want to go. Its like I have to pass this 'test'. What do I do? I mean, I do eventually have to meet them.

OP posts:
AndTheBandPlayedOn · 24/02/2016 18:46

He has struggled always being a perfectionist, but he says his parents are the complete opposite and have always told him to just try his best but he always expects so much of himself.
Just about every entry on the list says the opposite of the assertion that his parents are laid back and casual (my words-as opposite to being controlling perfectionists). Generally this list suggests that the parents are searching for superiority fodder at your expense. This is you being their ego supply. That dynamic will not get easier as time goes on, only worse.

They will watch how you eat like a hawk - pray...
Why on earth would they watch you like a hawk? That is not very welcoming behavior. Looking for faults.

no swearing in front of them.
Do you swear a lot generally? Has he mentioned your swearing before? If so, why hasn't he dumped you already? Having a black and white rules is not the opposite of perfectionist. Looking for faults.

never ever put a glass down on the table without a coaster - it is a cardinal sin
I can get the damage a glass of liquid can do to furniture, but "cardinal sin"? That is definitely not easy going and nice. Bring a house gift: Coasters!

never take any alcohol, even if offered and waved in front of you insistently - IT IS A TEST
The Testing is just rude, presumptuous, and begs the question: What other Tests will be forthcoming?

when you are done eating leave your cutlery at 5'o clock position - dad is very particular about that
Very particular does not match with easy going and nice. Looking for faults. You must conform or you are subordinate.

help clear the table even if told not to and do it as soon as my mum stands up
Even if told not to-This is disrespecting his mom. Does he know this? "As soon as his mom stands up" smacks of you competing with her. Negative impression, not positive.

insist on washing up and do it very well - mum will check everything
Insisting is not good manners, is it? And mom checking everything is not laid back/casual/welcoming. It is establishing a superior posture...which you are not to forget.

wear the gloves for washing up or mum will say you don't take care of your hands and give you a long lecture about the importance of ladies keeping hands smooth
Giving a long lecture? What else will spark a long lecture? She wouldn't know whether you take care of your hands (or how you do it) and to make such an assertion based on one interaction like this is very presumptuous and controlling and grabbing an opportunity to score points at your expense.

do not show me any affection and don't expect me to show you any
Also incongruous-all his protestations about how much he loves you and how much he wants his folks to love you...BUT you've got to keep all that love under wraps. So you treat each other as you would a stranger off the street? What is the parameter there? This is really not going to be good for your mental health.

Don't talk about the environment - dad hates the environment
Hate is a very strong word. Again, incongruous with being friendly and non-perfectionist. I would suspect there is more to this than just a casual aversion to the topic. Is he professionally involved in a company that has had to pay for environmental clean-up?

Make sure you emphatically tell them you don't have a tattoo and never will - I swore an oath to them I would never marry a girl with one.
Are they going to take your word for it or will a body inspection be in the works? And pray tell, what other oaths has he sworn to?

My mother is practically psychic and can detect a lie or falseness a mile away so just be your lovely self, and just forgive my silly list.
Wouldn't this whole script backfire then? She would know that you are presenting a superficial front just to be liked and become suspicious at your motives. After all of this list-to just be your self and forgive the silly list...this is into headfuckery territory now. DO THIS and THIS (on and on)...but no, don't do any of that. There is a psychological split going on there. That would be way way way above your pay grade to deal with.

SouthWestmom · 24/02/2016 18:48

I think it's his problem not theirs. No idea why though. Maybe he's over sensitive and reads criticism into normal conversation. You know, they mention they weren't keen on the gf's tattoo and it becomes a huge insurmountable issue.
Fwiw the first time I met now Dh's parents my daughter peed on their carpet and then we told them I was pregnant. Two months after meeting. All was fine.

Spandexpants007 · 24/02/2016 20:17

ANy - I don't mind really. It made him see sense I guess.

AnyFucker · 24/02/2016 20:22

You think, Spandex ?

Chippednailvarnish · 24/02/2016 20:25

Yup. He's a freak.

AndTheBandPlayedOn · 24/02/2016 20:30

How could he ever see sense? He has been brainwashed into a ball of anxiety over dinner napkins and conversation topics and girlfriend specifications that he probably can not even see his own reflection in a mirror.

He has back tracked because the four previous are no longer on the scene and that is where number five is headed too by calling him on this list.

Amielie please take a cue from the previous four. Four!

AyeAmarok · 24/02/2016 20:57

Nah. A plot has been lost here somewhere.

Not showing any affection? Beyond fucked up.

Samaritan1 · 24/02/2016 21:04

This post does sound like a wind up....but my aunt's ex's parents were the same. She even had to put her knife and fork down while chewing her food because "cutlery doesn't hover" in their house.

Pathetic, sad little people that have nothing better to do than pass judgement on others and think their silly little rules are so important. I'd be very seriously considering if I wanted to carry on this relationship - firstly because you are going to have to spend a lot of time with them and secondly, they seem to have a lot of influence over him, which is definitely not a good thing.

Samaritan1 · 24/02/2016 21:08

Hmmm, just read the middle of the thread after posting. So your boyfriend is clearly the real issue here - I'd still be reconsidering the relationship after he blatantly lied and exaggerated in his email to you. The whole family sounds totally nuts.

Caravanoflove · 24/02/2016 21:16

OMFG!! This is a joke I think?

Fugghetaboutit · 24/02/2016 21:23

Imagine having a child with this guy and how they'll control your parenting I'd run.

ladylambkin · 24/02/2016 23:09

Op thanks for the update. He sounds like a very controlling man and shouldn't have made you feel so awkward with the email in the first place...he should be trying to soothe you and make you feel comfortable about going. I wouldn't accept his flowers or apology I would be finishing things

Puppymouse · 24/02/2016 23:21

Not assuming for one minute you're at this point yet OP but just the thought of co-parenting with someone like this makes me want to run screaming into the night after gouging my eyes out with spoons.

He may have anxiety issues and maybe he needs more support from his GP or a counsellor for that but he's clearly lost all perspective and will never stand up for you should you disagree with them on anything.

Run.

AmyAmoeba · 25/02/2016 00:17

My dad's cousin was such a picky perfectionist that to this day his family are still inclined to look at his wife with wonder. I can imagine this guys parents lightheartedly saying something like " well she wasn't perfect, did you see the way she left her cutlery at half four", teasing their uptight son little realising that they were condemning the relationship.

MistressDeeCee · 25/02/2016 00:48

OP did you read Suffolksim post re marrying a similar man and the ensuing mental health issues with one of her teenage sons who is just like him?

Although by now you're probably happily skipping thru meadow or some such with this oddbod bloke who is a born liar

"parents are the complete opposite and have always told him to just try his best but he always expects so much of himself"

"He assured me that he was just exaggerating when he said he dumped them after meeting his parents"

Major about turn. As for showing him link to this thread - Id like to think a man who is my possible lifepartner wouldn't pay more attention to the opinions of complete strangers, than he would my opinion. Even this in itself is a red flag

I bet if the 2 of you went to Relate, that would be an eye opener

But ffs if this man can get a woman, then any man can..! What a thought..

TheBouquets · 25/02/2016 01:12

I had a boyfriend who took me to his parents' house. I could already tell that there was something very strange about the family. Anyway full of the good intentions off I went to visit. The parents were full of "wee tests" and "tricks". I sat through the lot. I was totally polite. After some time with this boyfriend I would play games at the parents' house. They would refer to my jacket by the maker's name so I would reply in the local dialect which they hated. I hate it too but it was worth the effort. They were full of snoot. There was a homosexual in the family but apparently no-one had noticed! Think Julian Clary. How can you not notice?
Pity they did not ensure that their son was a satisfactory person to find a girl who was good enough. He would not work, earned nothing, bragged about things that were not even his. I off loaded their sponger son. I have heard in the last few weeks that he is still bumming on about things that cant possibly be true. Parents are long dead but son has learned nothing.
Get rid. Run fast. If his parents really are like what he says but I would give them the chance, it could be him and not them. If either the son or the parents are really like this. Take to your toes.

SwearySwearyQuiteContrary · 25/02/2016 01:41

OP, have you compiled your own behaviour list for DP's parents?
Always make a guest feel welcome.
Do not impose your own hang ups on other people.
Accept that people think and behave in different ways and that it is a fundamental right to express (politely) our opinions on issues.
It is very rude to offer something as a "test of character".
Appointing oneself as an arbiter of morality and good character is really rather odd.
Enjoying a glass of wine does not indicate a moral deficiency, and it is most impolite to insinuate such a thing.
Be pleased that your son has met someone who isn't frightened off by the piercing shrieking of the batshit crazy klaxon.

Hissy · 25/02/2016 06:57

If I was expected to wash up as a guest on my first visit, it's be my last. How spectacularly rude.

If boyf is so worried about the dishes, nothing to stop HIM helping his mother eh?

I'd not want to spend a second of my life in a weird set up like this.

I'd cut and run

ConkersDontScareSpiders · 25/02/2016 07:14

Did you ask your bf if he's joking?
He must be surely?
Also can someone explain the five o clock cutlery position? Which side of the plate is the 12 on in this situation-the one neared the body presumably? But then does the knife and fork point an an angle to the '5' then? I've never seen anyone do this I don't think? Maybe I just don't mix with the right people! I'm intrigued...

HortonWho · 25/02/2016 07:15

Of course he had a laugh - there were posts telling the OP about how his parents abused him, ffs. That is just ridicilous projection based on one isolated incident it IS laughable. I bloody laughed too.

Oysterbabe · 25/02/2016 08:19

The 12 is at the top and you put the cuttlery together in the 5 position to show you're finished. I always do this anyway without thinking about it.

ConkersDontScareSpiders · 25/02/2016 08:54

5? I think I was always taught to put mine neatly together pointing towards 6 I guess...I wonder why 5?

Ins3cth0t3l · 25/02/2016 09:16

I am intrigued

I am wondering if he has lists for other things ?

eg

driving
living together eg things in the house
parenting

If I was the son I would be finding a girlfriend with the most tattoos
Just because you have a tattoo does not mean you are a lesser person !

I agree with cutting the apron strings

He will be living with a girlfriend not his parents in the future

Oysterbabe · 25/02/2016 09:22

It appears either is correct according to Google.

ConkersDontScareSpiders · 25/02/2016 09:42

Relieved: thought I had been behaving like an oik inadvertently for years.I wonder if the op should amend the list to reflect the possibility of doing it the 6 o clock way-just to give herself a fighting chance?

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